"Mystery" Drones Flying Over Parts of New Jersey, New York & Pennsylvania

dilettante said:
Yes, the spy balloon was already mentioned several times above. Completely different scenario. It had been tracked from its launch and ended up far off course from its intended path. It was also so high basically nobody in the general public saw it.

In this case the pattern of MSM reporting screams "psyop." One of the blatant signs of such being parroting lines or phrases across different outlets almost word for word, indicative of scripting. The few people "in authority" stating things other ways just suggests they are on the outside of or even targeted victims of the conspiracy.
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Here's the best complete story of the "weather balloon" that I've been able to find ...
The secret U.S. effort to track, hide and surveil the Chinese spy balloon
 

Did they the Chinese get clearance to overfly the USA? If not blow their guts out. Nuff said. Done.
A balloon is not a Space shot, it simply flies high in the air. Are we told when they fire a space
shot to space Earth orbit. We know they take pictures then too.
 
papa tiger said:
Did they the Chinese get clearance to overfly the USA? If not blow their guts out. Nuff said. Done.
A balloon is not a Space shot, it simply flies high in the air. Are we told when they fire a space
shot to space Earth orbit. We know they take pictures then too.
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Could be the balloon was used primarily to test air currents, direction, speed and other characteristics that may not be easily monitored from space. That information could be useful if ever releasing a chemical agent or something into the wind.

I have no idea what the drones could be up to. Several possible explanations offered in this thread sound plausible. I also think folks outside this forum and way above my paygrade have information not being shared. At least not transparently.

A generation from now, it will be mentioned ocassionally about that time when drones were over N.J., N.Y. and PA.
... and the story may or may not be more complete ... or accurate.
 

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Naturally said:
Could be the balloon was used primarily to test air currents, direction, speed and other characteristics that may not be easily monitored from space.
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Even a cursory search will establish that was not the case.

Spy balloon sent data to China in real time - report
The Chinese balloon that flew over the US earlier this year managed to gather intelligence from military bases for days before it was shot down, US media report.

The balloon was able to transmit data to Beijing in real time, NBC News reported, citing US officials.

The craft picked up electronic signals rather than taking pictures, according to one official quoted by the network.
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dilettante said:
Even a cursory search will establish that was not the case.

Spy balloon sent data to China in real time - report
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The stories are conflicting then. Not unusual.
The article I quoted, reported that ... and I quote ...

"As the balloon continued taking photos and attempting to gather sensory data to store on board for later, the U.S. gathered information on how it operated. U.S. officials say they believe they prevented the balloon from transmitting information back to China."

So which U.S. officials do we believe ?? ... or do we just believe what we chose to believe?

EDIT to add: The article you linked was published 3 April 2023. The article I linked was published much later on Dec. 22, 2023
 
dilettante said:
I say it doesn't really matter, mainly because the entire thing is off-topic.

I even cited a batshit crazy State-run source.
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Certainly off topic but reading between the lines and knowing a little factual information may provide insight into the group think of government as it is today and what conditions might be present to preclude U.S. officials from being transparent and wholly informing to the American public.

For one thing, they supposedly didn't want to shoot down the "weather balloon" over the continental U.S. for fear of a possible 70mi x 70mi or larger debris field and concerns for public safety. Those same cautions could be why they don't want to shoot down these drones over populated areas without full knowledge of possible payload. Dunno

... or maybe it's something else entirely, such as a three letter government agency investigating possible planned acts of terror as someone mentioned and U.S. officials won't or can't talk about it for classified reasons.
 
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OneEyedDiva said:
The Mayor of Washington Township speaks candidly about what he things is going on. He sent a letter to our governor signed by 21 mayors (including himself). Apparently some officials suggested in a press conference (I did not see) they are helicopters, which the mayor dismisses because he knows better based on his expertise about them. Here's the video clip:
https://www.goodmorningamerica.com/...yor-demands-answers-drone-sightings-116788846

Bob, I'm not sure I like the idea of air taxis flying around, but hey...welcome to The Fifth Element! My concern about that is assuaged a little though because trained commercial pilots are allegedly going to be the ones who fly them. I'm aware that Amazon is working on their drone delivery program. Maybe all this unfavorable press about night flying drones will discourage them from night deliveries.
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We have annoyed China and they are showing us a thing or two? (As they have done and are doing in Taiwan.)
 
OneEyedDiva said:
The Mayor of Washington Township speaks candidly about what he things is going on. He sent a letter to our governor signed by 21 mayors (including himself). Apparently some officials suggested in a press conference (I did not see) they are helicopters, which the mayor dismisses because he knows better based on his expertise about them. Here's the video clip:
New Jersey mayor demands answers for drone sightings

Bob, I'm not sure I like the idea of air taxis flying around, but hey...welcome to The Fifth Element! My concern about that is assuaged a little though because trained commercial pilots are allegedly going to be the ones who fly them. I'm aware that Amazon is working on their drone delivery program. Maybe all this unfavorable press about night flying drones will discourage them from night deliveries.
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Yeah, I think we are almost always uneasy about mysterious objects in the sky or otherwise. There may be others who think differently, but I think the FBI, Norad, and top-secret officials know what these are. You don't get to be head of these agencies with a low IQ, little experience, and just shrug your shoulders when you don't have answers.

For them to react passively and take no protective measures, tells me that they know more than they are telling us. It's a likely possibility that it could be defense related. The government contracts with a lot of private companies who test and develop technologies, machines, and equipment to aid the various government agencies, from large companies like Boeing, and Lockheed, down to even small innovative tech companies.

Normally the military won't sign a contract without a company's proof of concept, meaning that it has been tested in all possible conditions the government may need it for. Like it or not, drones are taking off (Pardon the pun), and they are going to be used for military applications, deliveries, inspections, entertainment, spraying crops, and a whole lot more.

For the government to say that these are not theirs would be technically correct, as they may not have signed any contract, even though they may be aware of the testing, and know they pose no threat.

I have wondered: "Why New Jersey, and coastal states?", and I really don't know, unless it might have something to do with enhancing border security, or that is where the company is located who is doing the testing. They may have to do day and night flights, also in inclement weather, and perhaps around complicated landscapes, to show the vehicle is capable of delivering on it's intended purpose. It may even turn off it's lights to avoid detection because that would be a valuable feature, as well as not displaying any heat trace, and also be capable of impressive speed.

I know it's frustrating, but, as you said, it may just be a glimpse of the crowded skies we will all have to live with. I'm sure some clever, investigative journalists are on the hunt for a breaking story and will eventually crack the case.
 
The government knows what the mystery drones flying over the East Coast are, but are too scared to tell us, a New Jersey senator has sensationally claimed.

Sen. Jon Bramnick called for a state of emergency as he derided what he said was a lack of government transparency over the unexplained drone sightings.

'Whatever these drones are doing, the government really doesn't want us to know,' he told NewsNation on Saturday, urging the DoD to 'come clean with the American public' following a string of appearances since November.

The White House's national security communications advisor John Kirby has urged that the sightings pose no 'national security or public safety threat', and Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas said he knows of 'no foreign involvement'.

But the lack of explanation has sparked fierce criticism from some lawmakers as drones continue to appear around sensitive sites, and panic spread as a New Jersey mayor revealed his fire department had been told to wear hazmat suits in case the flying objects crashed.

Activity forced officials to close airspace over Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Ohio for approximately four hours from Friday into Saturday as authorities monitored the situation, WHIO reported.
Accusing the government of some sort of conspiracy to cover up the drone activity, Bramnick said: 'What that must mean is they're more concerned with us getting knowledge and being afraid of that information than having no knowledge and having all these questions.'

'There's no way the Department of Defense does not know what's going on,' he asserted.


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Feds know what drones are but are too scared to tell us, senator says
 
This is getting stupider and stupider. Now, people in Jersey are calling 911 to report drones flying into Newark, NJ. Unfortunately, the dones, which are on a secret mission the government is hiding from us; was the Delta Flight 235 from Chicago to Newark Airport.
 
Seeing this article this morning makes a little more sense.
That would explain how the govt said they know they are not a threat.

Unique 13-foot transforming drone nails moving target in Navy trials

The drones seen flying over New Jersey match all the defining characteristics of the PteroDynamics X-P4 Transwing VTOL UAS, a revolutionary unmanned aerial system that is transforming modern drone technology:


  • Silent Hovering and Stationary Flight: The X-P4 is equipped with vertical takeoff and landing (VTOL) capabilities, allowing it to hover silently and remain stationary in midair—just as described by witnesses.

  • Morphing and Transforming Design: The X-P4 can change forms by unfolding its retractable wings, transforming from a hovering VTOL drone into a fixed-wing aircraft. This morphing capability enables seamless transitions between modes, combining the agility of a drone with the speed and efficiency of an airplane
Images in next post. Fits a lot of descriptions.
 
hollydolly said:
Activity forced officials to close airspace over Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Ohio for approximately four hours from Friday into Saturday as authorities monitored the situation, WHIO reported.
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We don't live far from Wright-Pat, it's where my husband and I met. If any group will seriously look into it, it will be them.

For fifty years it's been rumored that Area B of Wright Patterson AFB is where all the UFO's and actual aliens are held in secret.

I really don't care what's flying overhead as long as they don't mess with Santa Claus.
 
Della said:
We don't live far from Wright-Pat, it's where my husband and I met. If any group will seriously look into it, it will be them.

For fifty years it's been rumored that Area B of Wright Patterson AFB is where all the UFO's and actual aliens are held in secret.

I really don't care what's flying overhead as long as they don't mess with Santa Claus.
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it's still not answering the question as to why we've got them over here flying over the American air bases...:unsure:
 
fuzzybuddy said:
Oh for God's sake, I can't believe people are spazing out about the "dreaded drones". There are hundreds of drone clubs throughout the US, and they've been fly drones since the 1930s. It is perfectly legal to fly drones at night, as long as they have the proper lights. And when you throw in the millions of flying toy drones..........
Plus, there are drones in use, now, checking power lines, traffic patterns, dams, bridges, etc, etc. etc.,
I'm quite sure some mischievous toy drone owners love freaking out the tin foil hat crowd.
And the drone "sightings" are getting stupider. I'm just waiting for Jethro and Martha, who were abducted by a 800 foot drone, which had 6 eyes, 12 legs, and breathed fire. Then some yokel will swear he saw 100s of them.
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wow fuzzybuddy, you sound like you would be fun at parties.
 
It's said that some 80 nuclear warheads went missing in Ukraine. And "no one" knows where they are.
A drone expert has chimed in that he thinks the drones over the northeast, said to be flying a grid pattern, are sniffing for something radioactive, a gas leak or something. He said drones don't fly at night unless looking for something.
Expert Theory Emerges
 

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