Aneeda72
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My son had COVID and got the vaccine so I figure he is as safe as you can be
Natural infection vs vaccination: Which gives more protection?
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Everyone would live forever if it wasn't for this damn virus.
I'm not either, but Jon notes Constitutional concerns many American's had/have.
If Habeas Corpus can be suspended when the public safety requires it, surely other protections can be at least bended if not suspended. I remember years ago the Supreme Court ruled HC could be suspended for Guantanmo detainees as long as an adequate alternative remedy was in place.
The freedom to travel is a basic fundamental right, but it can be limited, for say a person on probation that needs permission to leave his home state etc.
When the Spanish Flu of 1918 cancered the Country, the Bill of Rights did not apply to the states. Last year and in today's world they do. Is there a balance?
To avoid anything like the Black Plauge that Europe saw, measures had to be taken that conflicted with a democratic society's norms.
Aneeda72
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Well, I don’t want to turn this into a constitutional debate cause as I said I am not even close to understanding a document that was written before TV.
. And like anything else is interpreted by far more educated minds than me, and those minds disagree.However, I DISAGREE that the freedom to travel is a basic fundamental right.
Historically, the right to travel HAS NEVER BEEN a basic fundamental right in any country in the world. Travel has always been “curbed”by the powers that be in some form or another from the beginning of the human race.
The fact that members of the elite or, let’s face facts, the white race have, in more modern times, been able to travel wherever was related more to their pocketbook and race than any supposed right.
As for health related issues, those issues, the protection of the public, have historically trumped the rights of the individual as far back as the time of JC when lepers lived in leper colonies and were denied access to the general population. @ohioboy
Well, my comment was per U.S. Supreme Court rulings, that makes it a fundamental liberty.
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The way I see it....we ALL have some responsibility in helping to control this virus. For Most, getting the vaccine is probably the best option, but for those who reject the vaccines, they should be willing to accept a lifestyle that limits their exposure to others. These "spikes" are clear evidence that this virus is Far from eradicated, and is something we will have to live with for the foreseeable future.
If large numbers of people continue to refuse to take this virus seriously, governments will have few options other than invoking more lockdowns, and strict public gathering policies.
If large numbers of people continue to refuse to take this virus seriously, governments will have few options other than invoking more lockdowns, and strict public gathering policies.
"but for those who reject the vaccines, they should be willing to accept a lifestyle that limits their exposure to others"
Natural immunity vs vaccine immunity. Natural immunity, those that have had Covid. They don't need to take the vaccine. They don't need to do any different then those who have had the vaccine.
Natural immunity vs vaccine immunity. Natural immunity, those that have had Covid. They don't need to take the vaccine. They don't need to do any different then those who have had the vaccine.
How do you feel about requiring everyone to have a TB test? Did you have a TB test before going near other people? TB is airborne & very contagious; don't you have a responsibility to protect others by having a TV test every few weeks?
"Tuberculosis is carried in airborne particles, called droplet nuclei, of 1– 5 microns in diameter. Infectious droplet nuclei are generated when persons who have pulmonary or laryngeal TB disease cough, sneeze, shout, or sing. TB is spread from person to person through the air."
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Well, at least the "Educated" people won't get it.
ProTruckDriver
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I see there is no response to this. I guess because it can't be answered. None of us know about the long term effects now but we will a few years down the road. I hope all goes well to the people that were vaccinated. I wish they would come up with something for the people that can't make or make very few antibodies in their body.
Btw: @Sunny I'm sorry that I came across so strong about my statement in the previous post about the "Crystal Ball" but when a statement is made that an experimental vaccine is almost 100% safe and it hasn't been proven in the long term, that irritates me.