Newsweek reports United States is the 2nd most hated country in the world

[Irishdude]

I think this thread lost its way at least 16 pages or more ago.

The most fascinating thing about this thread, now that we are 646 posts deep, is that it all began with a Newsweek article built largely on the 'opinion' of two writers (allegedly journalists), who themselves were interpreting the results of various public 'opinion' surveys.

Those surveys being based purely on the 'opinions' of the people who responded to them. This thread is mostly our 'opinions' of an 'opinionated' article of the 'opinions' of others, with some cultural stereotypes thrown in for good measure. You see where this is going, right? This thread was never going to come to a conclusion, was it. Especially when some then felt it necessary to introduce moral bombshells and rhetorical steamrolling of others. Some seem to thrive on that type of thing, as though it is a personal necessity.

As I've said in an earlier post, we know nothing about who was surveyed, what the questions were, how representative the data might be, or even what methodology was used to analyse it all. But somehow, this long chain of loosely tethered 'opinions' at times goes into a full-blown battlefield -- with some attempting at humour to try to pull it out again.

What we then see here is some people getting genuinely passionate, and in some cases, downright combative, as they offer up their own 'opinions' on the 'opinions' of journalists and of a survey they know little about. And no doubt some of these people think they are clever!

Then the thread seems to spiral into some kind of feedback loop, where we are all treated to increasingly fervent posts, some of which attempt to anchor the conversation with historical or moral arguments that often feel like they were transported in from a number of entirely different threads. What a fascinating spectacle, and we have all become part of the show. Who really are the clever ones here?

I'm going to ask you not to post on this thread anymore. You're making way too much sense.

 

[Magna-Carta]

I'm going to ask you not to post on this thread anymore. You're making way too much sense.

I wonder if the OP could ask Matrix if he can rename this thread to something like the “Demonstrate Your Charisma Here” thread.

We could then have an opinionated survey and vote on each post. Extra points awarded for moral outrage, historical references, or the creative twisting of someone else’s point into a completely different conversation.

People joining the thread for the first time at a later date would never be able to figure out that there has been a thread name change. As much of what has already been posted seems so random.

 

[KSav]

LOL..you're STILL using Cheques !!

@hollydolly, one of the publishing services I work for still pays by check, which they send via snailmail. Unbelievable in this day and age!

 

[Twostep]

@hollydolly, one of the publishing services I work for still pays by check, which they send via snailmail. Unbelievable in this day and age!

Social Security returned an overpayment they initiated by check and snail mail.

 

[Paco Dennis]

The day we can't express our grievances against our Government is the day democracy ends.

 

[Inept]

The day we can't express our grievances against our Government is the day democracy ends.

It also ends when we no longer feel our grievances will be heard.

 

[Olivia]

I would not expect someone from England to agree! Your newspapers and media have tried to tear down for USA forever! You all would be speaking German if it was not for the USA!

And that ain't easy.

 

[dilettante]

I would not expect someone from England to agree! Your newspapers and media have tried to tear down for USA forever! You all would be speaking German if it was not for the USA!

Or Russian.

 

[Inept]

I would not expect someone from England to agree! ... You all would be speaking German if it was not for the USA!

If not for England it would be the US that has German as its official language. Is it possible they didn't teach American history in your school

 

[smiley]

remember the Pilgrim Fathers??? - can any of us here either side of the waterways relate to them connect with them - there must be bloodlines somewhere?? the very first Americans heh!

 

[Inept]

I can see that. I'm a vet and not the patriotic type I once was. I just live here and won't defend the country anymore in arguments or attacks. I'm not putting my hand on my chest or doing any of that crap again.

 

[Inept]

remember the Pilgrim Fathers??? - can any of us here either side of the waterways relate to them connect with them - there must be bloodlines somewhere?? the very first Americans heh!

The Arawak, Taino, and Lucayan were there long before so the "Pilgrim Fathers" couln't be "the first".

 

[smiley]

The Arawak, Taino, and Lucayan were there long before so the "Pilgrim Fathers" couln't be "the first".

I said first Americans NOT existing Indigenous peoples who I doubt called themselves Americans but you knew that all a long didn't you?

 

[Inept]

I said first Americans NOT existing Indigenous peoples who I doubt called themselves Americans but you knew that all a long didn't you?

You are just mixing words to fit your own agenda. But if you are so keen on that maybe you should realize that the term "America" wasn't applied to what you call the United States so you are way off base on what or who the first Americans are/were. Who were the first Transkaians? The first South Sudanese? The first Rhodesians? The first Campucheans? The first East Germans? The first Israelis?

 

[Magna-Carta]

remember the Pilgrim Fathers??? - can any of us here either side of the waterways relate to them connect with them - there must be bloodlines somewhere?? the very first Americans heh!

This is surreal -- how random is that!

It's like someone throwing a completely different jigsaw puzzle onto the table while everyone is still working on the first one. Where even the first one had a significant number of pieces missing, and there was no picture on the box to figure out how the original pieces fit together. But where people enthusiastically tried to force non-connecting pieces together anyway.

It's like someone building a single huge jigsaw from several different Picasso paintings.

Welcome back everyone to, "Newsweek reports United States is the 2nd most hated country in the world". Otherwise referred to as, The Picasso Thread:

 

[Magna-Carta]

Alright, let’s take a moment to reflect on where we are in this thread. Just in case anyone’s feeling a bit lost...

Confused? You won’t be after these two thread updates:

 

[oslooskar]

remember the Pilgrim Fathers??? - can any of us here either side of the waterways relate to them connect with them - there must be bloodlines somewhere?? the very first Americans heh!

My great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandfather, John Bounds, was my first American-born ancestor.

John Bounds, I (1649 - 1700)
Birthdate: 1649
Birthplace: Northumberland County, Virginia, Colonial America
Death: November 1700 (50-51)
Somerset County, Maryland, Colonial America
Place of Burial: 17, Westside, Wicomico County, MD, United States

 

[Magna-Carta]

My great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandfather, John Bounds, was my first American-born ancestor.

John Bounds, I (1649 - 1700)
Birthdate: 1649
Birthplace: Northumberland County, Virginia, Colonial America
Death: November 1700 (50-51)
Somerset County, Maryland, Colonial America
Place of Burial: 17, Westside, Wicomico County, MD, United States

That's a lot of 'greats', but maybe not quite enough? Would eight 'greats' suggest that on average, each generation had children at about 42 years old. That seems unusually late for the time, and especially as a generational average, when most people had children in their 20s.

So his father, Jonas Bond Bounds, was born in 1612, London, England. Died in London in 1683?

 

[oslooskar]

That's a lot of 'greats', but maybe not quite enough?

Its the perfect number of greats. Below is my great-great-great-grandfather James Rousom Bounds. Work your way back and see,

James Rousom Bounds (1802 - 1868)
Birthdate: May 11, 1802
Birthplace: Anson, North Carolina, United States
Death: August 07, 1868 (66)
Big Creek, Calhoun, Mississippi, United States
Place of Burial: Pine Ridge Cemetery Big Creek, Calhoun County, Mississippi
James Rousom Bounds

 

[Magna-Carta]

Its the perfect number of greats. Below is my great-great-great-grandfather James Rousom Bounds. Work your way back and see,

James Rousom Bounds (1802 - 1868)
Birthdate: May 11, 1802
Birthplace: Anson, North Carolina, United States
Death: August 07, 1868 (66)
Big Creek, Calhoun, Mississippi, United States
Place of Burial: Pine Ridge Cemetery Big Creek, Calhoun County, Mississippi
James Rousom Bounds

John Bounds had a fascinating life. A lot of history about him and family, and servants. In a world where court fines were paid in tobacco.

 

[Tom52]

If not for England it would be the US that has German as its official language. Is it possible they didn't teach American history in your school

Can't find anything on a Google search that confirms there was any vote for an official language that almost made German our official language. If there was, why is there no official language as of today? Regardless, England does not appear to have any involvement what so ever. If I am wrong please reference a proper link that confirms this. I will bow to your superior knowledge of American History.

this is what I found:
"The late German academic Willi Paul Adams published a study in 1990 that included an explanation of why so many people believed Muhlenberg acted to block a congressional resolution that would have made German the national language.

“Fascinating for Germans, this imagined decision has been popularized by German authors of travel literature since the 1840s and propagated by some American teachers of German and German teachers of English who are not entirely secure in their American history,” Adams wrote.

“In reality, this presumed proposition was never brought to the congressional floor and a vote was never taken,” he added."

 

[Magna-Carta]

Its the perfect number of greats. Below is my great-great-great-grandfather James Rousom Bounds. Work your way back and see,

James Rousom Bounds (1802 - 1868)
Birthdate: May 11, 1802
Birthplace: Anson, North Carolina, United States
Death: August 07, 1868 (66)
Big Creek, Calhoun, Mississippi, United States
Place of Burial: Pine Ridge Cemetery Big Creek, Calhoun County, Mississippi
James Rousom Bounds

Have I got this correct, James Rousom Bounds, 43rd Regiment, Mississippi Infantry, Company K. Also a land owner (160.5 acres) -- plantation. He fathered at least 17 children. He had a daughter when he was 65? His wife was 47 at the time -- unless I'm thinking of a different wife, as he might have been married two or three times.

Originally a hatter, later also a planter/land manager

James Rousom Bounds had a twin brother?

 

[AnneTeak]

Depends on who you listen to

 

[Inept]

My great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandfather, John Bounds, was my first American-born ancestor.

John Bounds, I (1649 - 1700)
Birthdate: 1649
Birthplace: Northumberland County, Virginia, Colonial America
Death: November 1700 (50-51)
Somerset County, Maryland, Colonial America
Place of Burial: 17, Westside, Wicomico County, MD, United States

That's a lot of 'greats', but maybe not quite enough? Would eight 'greats' suggest that on average, each generation had children at about 42 years old. That seems unusually late for the time, and especially as a generational average, when most people had children in their 20s.

So his father, Jonas Bond Bounds, was born in 1612, London, England. Died in London in 1683?

You are not to be trifled with I can plainly see.

 

[Magna-Carta]

You are not to be trifled with I can plainly see.

We can all get things wrong though.