No booster = Unvaccinated?

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There's a great deal of places in the uk where you will not be permitted entry unless proof of double vaccination is shown ..or a Covid lateral test Pass...
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There's a great deal of places in the uk where you will not be permitted entry unless proof of double vaccination is shown ..or a Covid lateral test Pass...

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I thought England wasn't going to do a vaccine passport? Guess they are huh?
 

Vaccine incentives are comin' back.
News just reported that if you're fully vaccinated, you get free tickets to a UCLA football game.
Yeeeeeehaw!!!!!!!!
I'd rather have a free taco.
 
I did have the covid but a light case for a week - didn't feel that sick at all but lost my taste. Had my blood checked 90 days later for antibodies and I didn't have any so I got both the 1st and 2nd shot of Moderna. Was sicker with the vaccines for a day or so but now don't know what to do about a booster. This is going to possibly continue on and on as there is so much unknown and the Communist China is not telling us the whole truth. Very troubling what to do. It may go like booster 1, booster 2, and booster 3 and 4 - when does it end? I think again we have to know all the TRUTHS about this covid. I still don't have my taste back 100% - may 80% but I used to smell very good and taste very good. It will be a year in November. The future is unknown to all of us for covid. I sure wish I knew whether this covid was an accident or was deliberate. If it was deliberate we are in big trouble I feel with China. But no one seems to want to get to know and yet it affected the entire world - this is big - maybe pandemics are the only way to have a war? Nuclear wont work - but pandemics?????? This is a big mystery.
 
More and more, it's obvious that the same small group on this forum are posting endlessly about how "dangerous" the vaccine is, how any vaccine mandates are an infringement on human rights, and so on. They love any statistics that show breakthrough cases (even though they are nearly always mild and uneventful), and joyfully come up with very dubious stories about people dying after receiving the vaccine. (Even though the vaccine had nothing to do with their death; everybody eventually dies of something).

This is the same contingent that loves to make fun of scientists, physicians, and pharmaceutical companies, all of whom are working overtime to keep us alive. There is a strong element of paranoia in this ("they are injecting poison into our bodies!") and a pathological fear of injections comes through. With some it's political, with others it's trolling (looking for fights) via constant sneering and taunting. And with some, there is a belief in horse deworming substances instead of the amazingly effective and safe vaccine.

Most of this stuff was promulgated and is continued by Fox News and other right-wing media. We all listen to, read, and believe whatever makes sense to us. If utter nonsense, and frequently lies, fit in with our belief system, we believe them anyway, and see ourselves as heroes in further spreading the lies. And that's where the Internet and its social media can be very dangerous. People who are a little bit naive can be led down very dangerous ways of thinking, and it spreads exponentially, much as the virus does.

If someone has underlying health issues that prevent them from tolerating the vaccine, I sympathize. But it seems to me that someone in that situation would keep it to themself, as a private health matter. Maybe it's appropriate to discuss it with their family, immediate friends, and their doctor. Maybe mention it once in a forum, if helpful to other people. If you are allergic to, say, penicillin and other antibiotics, would you conduct an endless campaign against the medical use of antibiotics? Why the constant propaganda-spreading against the vaccine that the great majority of us can and do get, thankful that we are protected against a horrible death from this killer disease? It's like a soapbox that this tiny segment never seem to get off.

I should add that by now, the majority of Americans (and probably most of the developed world) have received the vaccine, and many are also getting boosters. So what is there to still argue about? The rate of new cases, and the rate of death from Covid-19 keeps going down, very much in sync with the rate of vaccination going up. And for anyone who has harbored doubts about the effectiveness of this vaccine, that statistic should be enough to convince you.
Great post Sunny and I agree!
 
Last spring, my brother was vaccinated. He did it because he believed it would make his life easier. In early summer SIL also got vaccinated. She did not want the vaccine, but her employer forced vaccination on his employees otherwise they would face dismissal.

Neither my brother nor his wife want booster shots. Getting vaccinated didn't uncomplicate their lives as they had believed they would and now they are both faced with seriously uncomfortable questions.

If vaccinated people refuse booster shots, will they be treated as unvaccinated? :unsure:
If that is the case, that would be AWFUL!!!!! I have a friend that got the booster - she shared with me that she regret getting it. She got very sick - much like the flu. She said she would not recommend it to anybody but people do what they feel is best for them.
 
I agree. I remember all of those. Now there are places that won't let you in to see a movie or eat without showing your vax card. Looks like we are going the way of the USSR & China very slowly.

A friend & I was going to go eat at a nice restaurant. At the door is a sign. " You must show vax card or not get waited on". So we turned around & left like so many others done also. I wonder how long they will be in business?
Not long....JMO.
 
This will continue until enough people get vaccinated to give us herd immunity.

I can't imagine people are calling it a dictatorship to require proof of vaccination. Is it also a dictatorship to require a little plastic card in your wallet saying that you are allowed to drive? Or to require that you register to vote before going to the polls? Or to require proof of vaccination against other contagious diseases before your kid is allowed to go to school?

Somehow, this disease seems to operate in a universe of its own.
We are not asked for our drivers license when you visit stores, etc. (not unless you are under age and trying to buy alcohol, etc.,) you do not have to show your registration card to vote, you do not have to show your childhood vaccine card showing proof you got your vaccines when going shopping or going out to eat.

They are pushing the vaccine too hard - several vaccinated people that I know agree.. they are pushing it too hard. What's next, showing your kids birth certificates, how many calories you ate each day, etc., just trying to make sense out of non-sense. I thank God/the Universe that I am retired. Having a vax card or not, will not stop me from living my life. Where there is a Will, there is a Way
 
I did have the covid but a light case for a week - didn't feel that sick at all but lost my taste. Had my blood checked 90 days later for antibodies and I didn't have any so I got both the 1st and 2nd shot of Moderna. Was sicker with the vaccines for a day or so but now don't know what to do about a booster. This is going to possibly continue on and on as there is so much unknown and the Communist China is not telling us the whole truth. Very troubling what to do. It may go like booster 1, booster 2, and booster 3 and 4 - when does it end? I think again we have to know all the TRUTHS about this covid. I still don't have my taste back 100% - may 80% but I used to smell very good and taste very good. It will be a year in November. The future is unknown to all of us for covid. I sure wish I knew whether this covid was an accident or was deliberate. If it was deliberate we are in big trouble I feel with China. But no one seems to want to get to know and yet it affected the entire world - this is big - maybe pandemics are the only way to have a war? Nuclear wont work - but pandemics?????? This is a big mystery.
Really you don't have your taste back? How long has it been? I got mine back after 4 or 5 days. Several months is too long.
 
I’d like to ask someone how she feels about requiring people to show a vaccine card (and of course an ID so they know it’s you) to get into a restaurant , as is being done in San Fransisco. Then I would ask her how she feels about showing a drivers license to vote. Bet I’d get two different answers.
 
We have vaccine passports. On the 24th we’ll need to be double vaxxed.

There are no medical or religious exemptions.

Simply put, they’re necessary to enter a licensed restaurant/bar/casino, sporting or fitness facility, organized event. People can get takeout or go to a fast food place with no table service.

We have to wear masks basically everywhere inside. It doesn’t seem to be an issue, most people have adjusted.
 
The coach in the article I posted has not claimed to have any medical issues that would prevent him from getting the jab. He did apply for a religious exemption, but it was denied. If he had any "underlying problems" he should have come forward with them to the University, but he did not. I suspect he was counting on the University giving him a pass, because, well, coach. He took a $3 million gamble and lost.

The number I've seen for those truly at medical risk when taking the shot is 1% or less of the population. We are all very aware of your issues, and are certainly sympathetic. Just keep in mind that over 404 million doses have been administered in the US and over 95% of us seniors have

There's a great deal of places in the uk where you will not be permitted entry unless proof of double vaccination is shown ..or a Covid lateral test Pass...

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Interesting, as here to get a lateral flow test you get it in a special place or Dr's office. It takes 5 to 8 days for that test to come back. So the 48 hrs listed would not work.
 
This is a false choice, as though if you do not get the jab, you are doomed to die, period. You are not. And if Shero gets the jab, Shero should be safe. I got the jabs, so I feel safe. What anyone else does is up to them. There may be many valid reasons not to get the vaccine.
I try to drive carefully but who cares what those maniacs do out on the road? Oh, wait a minute. Their carelessness could affect me and others.
 
For purposes of avoiding going back to work in the office I declared to my manager that I had reverted to 'unvaccinated' status by being 65 yrs old and passing the threshold of beyond 6 months from the initial set of shots. He told me he would support me for as long as he could. I then got my booster (which by the way did not cause any fever or anything, I hope the booster worked, did anyone else who had a fever after the second shot not have any effects from the booster???), and it has been over a week so I hope no one at work notices I'm still working from home. One of my coworkers sent an email to the group saying his car needed extensive repairs that would take a month so he wouldn't be able to come to the office for another month. Another is having renovations to their basement. It is fun to see how we are all trying so hard to avoid going back to the office.
 
This is why you are not very smart. Read more than once because you understand very little the first time around. People that are vaccinated CAN STILL GET SICK from the idiots that think they have the God given right to spread the disease. The difference is they will not die and will not need intensive care like the unvaccinated morons will (and never pay for it if they survive). Funny how you nonbelievers run to hospitals for help after you catch the Covid while denying science prior. How many people with non-Covid illnesses were denied intensive care beds because of nonvaccinated fools claiming it is their right to treatments after claiming it is their right to ignore medical science?
This is what makes you a programmed robot.
 
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