No booster = Unvaccinated?

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Last spring, my brother was vaccinated. He did it because he believed it would make his life easier. In early summer SIL also got vaccinated. She did not want the vaccine, but her employer forced vaccination on his employees otherwise they would face dismissal.

Neither my brother nor his wife want booster shots. Getting vaccinated didn't uncomplicate their lives as they had believed they would and now they are both faced with seriously uncomfortable questions.

If vaccinated people refuse booster shots, will they be treated as unvaccinated? :unsure:
 

chic said:
Last spring, my brother was vaccinated. He did it because he believed it would make his life easier. In early summer SIL also got vaccinated. She did not want the vaccine, but her employer forced vaccination on his employees otherwise they would face dismissal.

Neither my brother nor his wife want booster shots. Getting vaccinated didn't uncomplicate their lives as they had believed they would and now they are both faced with seriously uncomfortable questions.

If vaccinated people refuse booster shots, will they be treated as unvaccinated? :unsure:
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I don't think the boosters fall under the current mandate........Yet.
 
It appears that the effectiveness of these Covid shots wanes over time....depending upon the "brand". I suspect these Covid shots will be much like the annual flu shots....in that last years flu shot is not very effective on this years strain of flu. Perhaps in another couple of years, research will find a better, and longer lasting solution to Covid, but in the interim, boosters will probably be needed to maintain the effectiveness.
 
there are now as many as a dozen covid mutations ... this virus is a monster and is very good at self preservation .

even natural immunity is unknown ... the two popular versions of covid are the alpha original and now delta but we are dealing with others too .

so unlike other vaccines like polio or small pox we are dealing with something far more complex
 
It wasn't so long ago that if you lived in Poland, the USSR or China you were forced to join the communist party whether you liked it or not. How so? Well, if you did not join, then you could not get any good jobs or if you had a decent job but did not join, forget about getting any promotion! I am a believer in the vaccine and I have both of my shots. However, I don't like the dictatorship way of forcing people to get the jab. I wish there was so other way. Canadians and Americans used to brag about our freedoms and look down on countries like North Korea, Russia or China. Well, think again, mate!
 
Packerjohn said:
It wasn't so long ago that if you lived in Poland, the USSR or China you were forced to join the communist party whether you liked it or not. How so? Well, if you did not join, then you could not get any good jobs or if you had a decent job but did not join, forget about getting any promotion! I am a believer in the vaccine and I have both of my shots. However, I don't like the dictatorship way of forcing people to get the jab. I wish there was so other way. Canadians and Americans used to brag about our freedoms and look down on countries like North Korea, Russia or China. Well, think again, mate!
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I agree. I remember all of those. Now there are places that won't let you in to see a movie or eat without showing your vax card. Looks like we are going the way of the USSR & China very slowly.

A friend & I was going to go eat at a nice restaurant. At the door is a sign. " You must show vax card or not get waited on". So we turned around & left like so many others done also. I wonder how long they will be in business?
 
Many things here now require the vax card. That includes hearing speakers on various subjects, club meetings, concerts, etc. Not sure about restaurants; I haven't encountered that yet. But most people are carrying around their vax card, just in case.

I don't mind showing it at all, and don't consider it an infringement on my freedom. Just the opposite, they're trying to keep us alive and healthy.
 
Tom 86 said:
I agree. I remember all of those. Now there are places that won't let you in to see a movie or eat without showing your vax card. Looks like we are going the way of the USSR & China very slowly.

A friend & I was going to go eat at a nice restaurant. At the door is a sign. " You must show vax card or not get waited on". So we turned around & left like so many others done also. I wonder how long they will be in business?
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Restaurants here have lines to get in despite needing the vaccination proof.

we were at the Bronx zoo a few days ago and without proof you cannot go to the indoor exhibits ..you get a wristband that they check for
 
This will continue until enough people get vaccinated to give us herd immunity.

I can't imagine people are calling it a dictatorship to require proof of vaccination. Is it also a dictatorship to require a little plastic card in your wallet saying that you are allowed to drive? Or to require that you register to vote before going to the polls? Or to require proof of vaccination against other contagious diseases before your kid is allowed to go to school?

Somehow, this disease seems to operate in a universe of its own.
 
Sunny said:
This will continue until enough people get vaccinated to give us herd immunity.

I can't imagine people are calling it a dictatorship to require proof of vaccination. Is it also a dictatorship to require a little plastic card in your wallet saying that you are allowed to drive? Or to require that you register to vote before going to the polls? Or to require proof of vaccination against other contagious diseases before your kid is allowed to go to school?

Somehow, this disease seems to operate in a universe of its own.
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It is dictatorship when a person is forced to get a vaccine they don't want and in some cases don't need when they have immunity from having had Covid in order to stay employed.
 
WhatInThe said:
Since the half vaxxed are considered unvaxxed until the 14 days after the final dose the boosters will be included in the definition of vaxxed in some businesses, entities, organizations and countries.

Israel now requires 3 shots to be considered vaxxed.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/03/world/israel-covid-booster.html

And they're working on there 4th
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And then................

https://ifunny.co/picture/waiting-in-line-for-your-56th-booster-shot-to-stop-JSvyLpOr8?s=cl
 
Pepper said:
This saying has nothing to do with the vaccine and everything to do with a woman's right to discontinue a pregnancy. Don't use it if you don't mean it the REAL way. Don't appropriate Never Again, either. So, you're from Texas..............where do you stand on the Real Meaning of this hard-fought phrase?
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I’ll use that phrase whenever and however I choose, thanks. Just as there are women who use that as a reason to be alowed to abort a fetus, people should be allowed to choose whether they want a foreign substance injected into them. No one owns either of those phrases.
 
One is "allowed" to say whatever one wants, despite it's hypocrisy, it's appropriation, It's misleading nature, it's unoriginality, it's lack of creativity, it's just plain wrongness. As I am "allowed" to call out the one who uses it inappropriately. And I Will.
 
I made an appointment this morning for my booster in two weeks, this will be my third shot.......I think these vaccinations and all the requirements that are being made are for the protection and well being of the citizens of this country.

The proof that the vaccinations and the wearing of mask works is in the statistics...and that is good enough for me.
 
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Pepper said:
This saying has nothing to do with the vaccine and everything to do with a woman's right to discontinue a pregnancy. Don't use it if you don't mean it the REAL way. Don't appropriate Never Again, either. So, you're from Texas..............where do you stand on the Real Meaning of this hard-fought phrase?
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My health, MY choice. What happens to MY body is My choice, (My body My choice) not yours not the higher ups making the vaccine a mandate. Its my body its my choice.
 
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