No more masks!

JonDouglas said:
From newswires this morning: Dr Anthony Fauci said Thursday children will still have to wear masks. That's what was from the Daily Mail.
Since children represent the healthiest segment of our population, that really doesn't make a lot of sense to me and I am happy to report that you don't see many children around here wearing masks on the playground.
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Same goes for here in BC, Canada.

I caught a news blip last night that mentioned it won't be until August (at best), where the easing of restrictions related to mask wearing will be considered.
 

JonDouglas said:
From newswires this morning: Dr Anthony Fauci said Thursday children will still have to wear masks. That's what was from the Daily Mail.
Since children represent the healthiest segment of our population, that really doesn't make a lot of sense to me and I am happy to report that you don't see many children around here wearing masks on the playground.
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WoW! Vaccinate six month old babies. 😲
 
ProTruckDriver said:
WoW! Vaccinate six month old babies. 😲
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I'm with you on that, Pro. :mad:

The news blip I caught last night spoke of Covid vaccine hesitancy, and what could be better done to get more people to accept vaccination, and how if 80% of the population got vaccinated, the country would open up again and life could be restored back to normal.

I'm amazed at reports such as this, actually, more amazed at all the folks who buy into this cheap lying hype, because those at the top have been lying to us from the very get-go of this pandemic, so they've lost all credibility with me. I simply see the push to reach an 80% milestone as noting more than a figure, one of which when achieved (good luck with that), subsequent pushes will follow to pressure the last 20%, but I don't see an opening up of anything, at least not back to normal as authorities claim, at least not in our country, and I definitely don't see any level of honesty injected into the words of top authorities, due to honesty being void from the start.
 

Aunt Marg said:
I'm with you on that, Pro. :mad:

The news blip I caught last night spoke of Covid vaccine hesitancy, and what could be better done to get more people to accept vaccination, and how if 80% of the population got vaccinated, the country would open up again and life could be restored back to normal.

I'm amazed at reports such as this, actually, more amazed at all the folks who buy into this cheap lying hype, because those at the top have been lying to us from the very get-go of this pandemic, so they've lost all credibility with me. I simply see the push to reach an 80% milestone as noting more than a figure, one of which when achieved (good luck with that), subsequent pushes will follow to pressure the last 20%, but I don't see an opening up of anything, at least not back to normal as authorities claim, at least not in our country, and I definitely don't see any level of honesty injected into the words of top authorities, due to honesty being void from the start.
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If people knew and understood what was going on at the CDC to give gravitas to these decisions, CDC credibility might hit the floor. To add a little fuel to this fire, here's something I read the other day. It was from an unnamed source just like what the media uses, but the content makes enough sense to certainly ask questions.

There’s an old saying that goes something like this: “If you torture the numbers long enough, you can make them say anything.” In our Covid-hysteria world, the CDC and other medical organizations have practiced a variation of the saying. If you run enough cycles of the PCR tests, you can make any sample test positive for Covid-19.​
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For over a year, there have been questions from doctors and scientists about the efficacy of having high “Cycle Thresholds” (Cts) for swab testing for Covid-19. Every cycle doubles the chances of finding a positive case, so 34 cycles will have 16-times more coronavirus materials than a 30-cycle test. There is no consensus about how many cycles should be run to give an acceptably accurate determination of Covid infections. Some doctors say it should be as low as 10. Others go as high as 35.​
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Some labs where PCR tests are checked will go over 40 or even 50 cycles. This is likely how a pawpaw fruit and goat, neither of which are capable of contracting Covid-19, both tested positive last year in a stunt by Tanzanian President John Magufuli.​
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The CDC has left the guidelines about the appropriate number of cycles ambiguous from the beginning. As a result, Covid-19 “cases” have skyrocketed at times even though a high Ct threshold can result in false-positives very easily. But things have changed now that tens of millions of Americans have been vaccinated. The CDC suddenly wants limits to the number of cycles but ONLY for those who have been vaccinated.​
 
chic said:
I ask myself this question constantly. My state could learn something from free choice states.
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I doubt it. I have this hypothesis that a good many state and federal politicians are in it for ego/power/money trip it provides and not as a result of their brain power or ability to think. Also, their "party" and contributors have some control over what they say/do.. :)
 
Aunt Marg said:
It's my understanding that mask wearing mandates meant little to those in the USofA.

Those who approached the guidelines with respect, wore them, and those who lacked respect for themselves as well as other, didn't.

That, and the fact that States such as Texas, Mississippi, Alabama and West Virginia, all bucked the system back in April and arbitrarily chose to lift any/all restrictions related to mask wearing, which relayed to me the complete and total anarchy that exists in your country.
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No big surprises, considering the political leanings of these populations.
 
Well , our whole country has been looking forward to the lifting on Monday May 17th of much of our lockdown restrictions ..but apparently 4 deaths have been reported in the North of the country of the Indian Variantof C-19.. so we await an emergency announcement from Boris at 5pm ( 30 mins from now)...we're expected to hear that once again as he did in December with just a few hours notice, that we will not be having our restrictions lifted as promised.....

I hope I'm wrong, I hope desperately that I'm wrong.. but watch this space...
 
chic said:
If people want to wear masks that's their choice but it alarms me when the rest of us are told plainly that we won't we get out of indoor mask wearing unless we're vaccinated. :oops: That is blatant discrimination against a huge segment of the population who cannot be vaccinated due to medical reasons or from having a bad reaction to their 1st dose. Two tier society coming our way. But that's what so many foresaw from the start. :mad:
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It really doesn't matter to me because how would anyone know whether or not you're vaccinated? Ask? I'd say "MYOB."
I doubt anyone would be asked to prove it.
 
Here's what we should consider to be scary. With all the access countries have to news items and issues should be a beneficial thing to all. What I saw in the COVID issue was ongoing, ever changing confusion turning a candle light in to a bonfire. Do we know what to believe when the "so-called facts change by the second? Put this confusion in the framework of a different national emergency and the outcome cannot be good. We hear now America has never been more divided. Maybe it is because we don't know who or what to believe anymore.
 
fmdog44 said:
Here's what we should consider to be scary. With all the access countries have to news items and issues should be a beneficial thing to all. What I saw in the COVID issue was ongoing, ever changing confusion turning a candle light in to a bonfire. Do we know what to believe when the "so-called facts change by the second? Put this confusion in the framework of a different national emergency and the outcome cannot be good. We hear now America has never been more divided. Maybe it is because we don't know who or what to believe anymore.
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May I suggest that this is only a "big scary deal" to those who either (a) are more easily scared of events, or (b) those who want to promote the idea of being scared. Personally, neither I nor most the people i know are scared. As for worrying about believing the government, you might want to take a walk back though the history of this republic. The Federalist Papers might be of interest.
 
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saltydog said:
Is social distancing and wearing a mask, when around strangers, really that difficult? Why are people so quick to shed these two layers of protection that have keep us reasonably safe this past year?
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If we are to believe what they're telling us, I don't think 560,000 deaths amounts to "Keeping us reasonably safe."
And, everyone who believes wearing a mask protects you shouldn't be concerned about other who aren't wearing a mask. Same with the vaccine. If it works, you're protected.
 
saltydog said:
Is social distancing and wearing a mask, when around strangers, really that difficult? Why are people so quick to shed these two layers of protection that have keep us reasonably safe this past year?
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Being healthy, vaccinated, accustomed to freedom and quite safe to others, I don't feel responsible for making them feel safe. Also, how do you account for the unmasked states being as safe or perhaps safer than masked states?
 

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