North Korea has an H bomb!

SifuPhil said:
Which is all the more reason change has to come from outside sources.
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I will respectfully ask you again Phil... as you made the comment the the US is licking it's wounds and not doing anything about North Korea.. Since the first North Korean nuclear test happened in 2006.. what should President Bush and VP Dick Cheney have done at that time to stop it.. What should have been done after the subsequent testing in 2009... 2013 and now in 2016. Do we go in and bomb? Exactly what should Obama do? It's quite obvious that this fat little dictator in North Korea is mentally unstable.. What should be done about him.?
 

It isn't a political thing nor only a U.S. thing. It has to be a world-wide coalition that does it - they have to present a united front.

Send in the F-22s and other stealth planes to target industries and known nuclear test sites. Send in Special Forces to take out the head and arms. Follow with waves of mechanized ground forces to deal with any resistance left.

Sometimes a strong response is more valued than mere words.
 
SifuPhil said:
It isn't a political thing nor only a U.S. thing. It has to be a world-wide coalition that does it - they have to present a united front.

Send in the F-22s and other stealth planes to target industries and known nuclear test sites. Send in Special Forces to take out the head and arms. Follow with waves of mechanized ground forces to deal with any resistance left.

Sometimes a strong response is more valued than mere words.
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I completely respect your position... however, I don't believe the answer to all problems is brute force.
 

QuickSilver said:
and maybe not... This is why I would never want to be the President.. 320 million people depend on his decisions... plus billions more.. if you consider the world..
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But again, you're looking at it as one person's decision, which it should NOT be (checks and balances and all that rot, you know) - it should be a majority of the world leaders.
 
I think we can rest assured should North Korea attempt an attack..it likely wouldn't succeed through our detection... but should they try, they will be dealt with quickly and completely.. In other words... there would be nothing left of them and that little despot. I think that in spite of his bravado... he realizes that.. and I don't think he wants to die.
 
Okay, but I see a couple of problems with that.

First, if they DO happen to successfully launch something at us (they DID successfully send up an orbiting missile), even with our detection of it it would be too late. One, or more likely several, of our major cities would be toast, along with millions of inhabitants.

Sure, we might get in a retaliatory strike. But there go millions of THEIR innocent citizens as well.

M.A.D. was discarded years ago as a plan.

Precision, surgical strikes are the way of warfare today.
 
SifuPhil said:
Okay, but I see a couple of problems with that.

First, if they DO happen to successfully launch something at us (they DID successfully send up an orbiting missile), even with our detection of it it would be too late. One, or more likely several, of our major cities would be toast, along with millions of inhabitants.

Sure, we might get in a retaliatory strike. But there go millions of THEIR innocent citizens as well.

M.A.D. was discarded years ago as a plan.

Precision, surgical strikes are the way of warfare today.
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When did they successfully send up an orbiting missile? They attempted in 2012, but it broke up before it left the atmosphere and fell into the pacific..

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-17698438
 
I've often wondered if some of history's madmen operated under a veil of death-wish. imp
 
QuickSilver said:
When did they successfully send up an orbiting missile? They attempted in 2012, but it broke up before it left the atmosphere and fell into the pacific..

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-17698438
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I believe on Dec. 12 2012 they successfully launched a 3-stage missile - a "carrier rocket" as they called it - and the U.S. confirmed that they were successful. Along with their successful submarine launches and their work on miniaturizing their warheads they're definitely making progress.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-17399847
 
Think of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

1/4 million people killed with 2 fission bombs. Imagine what happens with a fusion bomb, with 500 times more explosive energy ...
 
And the fallout could spread far from ground zero, so pray for a day without wind when you hear the boom...
 
After hearing my aunt's stories about being interred by the Japanese, seeing the keloid scars on her back, yet marveling at the fact she harboured no hatred in her heart, I am unable to either joke about, or ignore the effects of these bombs. The

devastation is multigenerational. Until her dying day, she spoke against bombing Nagasaki and Hiroshima, went to remembrance rallies in Japan, where showing the scars on her back, and speaking in Japanese, she brought people to tears

with the beauty of her spirit. She changed my life. I would give my life many times over, to prevent such a thing happening again. Namaste.
 
Well.... some folks have been itching for the USA to "do something"..... even if no one really knows what should be done.... I guess flying a bomber plane was as good as anything.. Unless maybe we should have actually bombed them..
 
I have zero idea how to "solve" this problem. It's deep seated and multifaceted. The "problem" is the Kim dynasty that oppresses the population. These people aren't free to leave...free to change anything. If there were easy answers this situation wouldn't exist. Americans are mostly sick of war and for what? I don't remember the Korean War but Vietnam was the heartbreaker of my generation...to this day.
 

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