Odd Happenings in OZ.

Warrigal said:
He could try consistency according to some coherent set of principles.
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Consistency isn't always the best option in changing circumstances Warri. I'd prefer they make adaptably right decisions for a situation than ideologically concrete wrong ones. Abe Lincoln's dead and to be honest, I don't think those high minded principles would cut it in Global politics today.

Or did you mean consistency as it is defined in the Labor dictionary? To bellow about representing the battling poor while handing out millions to subsidize locally failing multi nationals? And supporting the rights of unions to gouge employers for the benefit of 'workers' while signing away theit jobs on Kyoto style tariff deals that give their jobs to Asia? How highly principled do you wanna get?
 
No, I mean somewhere between rigid thinking and making it up as you go.

However, in this case I actually think there is an underlying consistency. It's just not what he's owning up to, hence the misrepresentations (AKA spin) that his colleague has branded "untruths".
 
I think she might be finding herself 'rooming' with Pauline over that little mutiny.
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It must have slipped her mind just who was Howard's hatchet man. Not a good career move to cross him.
 
Not a good management decision to only have one woman on the front bench either.
If she fights hard for her constituency she might outlast her leader.

I'd vote for her because she seems like a straight talker.
 
Not so. I'd vote for Tony Windsor and Rob Oakeshott too if either was presented as a candidate where I live.
I like people who speak straight and for the benefit of others.

People who speak weasel turn me off but sometimes they are the only ones on offer.
 
Too damned often!

But Windsor?, he talked the talk but still threw in with the party that his electors didn't want. ... and Oakshott is a giggling gibberer at best. They may carry a few more principles than those with the power but what is the point of electing people who will never make it to policy decision level?

The Greens have done no favours for the kind of people you (we really but don't tell anyone) want to see in power. They simply embedded in people's minds that these Independents and Greens are every bit as cynical manipulators as the majors and were imposing the will of minorities upon the population through 'selling' their votes on legislation. And were tossed hard and far as a result.

While there is some control over what the Party members say and do, there's none over Independents and no ramifications for them changing 'sides' or at least stated principles, once they're elected. As with Windsor.

But we'll stay stuck in our different viewpoints. You see Don Qixote and I see the Windmill.
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The local one here got himself kicked out for lying about who was driving through the speed trap. Shades of a certain judge.... No idea now who his replacement is, nor care much at that level. We're right on the border of the electorate and they're never seen, everything is done for Grafton and surrounds.

OMG I've just realized I'm moving to a different electorate and have do that rego thing again... dammit.
 
It's official! We're sure 'not in Kansas any more'.

We have a Lib calling her leader a liar and siding with the unionists, and a Unionist leader siding with the Liberal leader called a liar for his stand on union wage scales, and thus seriously undermining the spiel being sold by his own Labor Party leader.

This is bizarre! This is soooo unOZ politically that it's unbelievable. It's as though someone in Canberra has blinked and had an individual thought cross their mind. More unthinkable is that they verbally expressed an unapproved opinion publicly which is contra to Party policy and 'spin'. Gaaaaasp!

Both statements were of course heavily edited and cherry picked by the media to twist their context but that the words were uttered at all by Party line toers is gobsmacking.


Straaaange things happening down here.
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I can only put it down to an unexpected consequence of climate change that was not factored into the climate modelling.

Who knows what else may yet pop up out of the blue. An epidemic of truth-telling and altruism ?
If so, you'll have to admit that God surely does work in mysterious ways His wonders to perform.

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Fern said:
What is the set up for orchardists, do they sell their fruit direct to the supermarkets or canning factory.?
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Orchardists are the prey being fed upon by a pack of Supermarket chains and the Coke/Amatil congloms. They are on a hiding to nothing and I wonder why they don't all just down tools and walk away sometimes
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Growers selling direct to the supermarkets is a mugs game, they will always get the lowest prices for their produce. We found that out years ago, hence the setting up of the Apple & Pear Board, and Kiwifruit marketing bd. Even they now don't have a monopoly, since 2001 individual growers have been able to export and market their own fruit.
Hawke's Bay Fruitgrowers Association president Leon Stallard said his apples often retail in supermarkets for 800 per cent more than what he was paid. For example, shoppers paid $3.80 to $4 for a kilo of apples but he received just 50c to 60c a kilo from distributors - which meant little to no profit margin for the grower.

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OH yeah we have all kinds of 'boards' and co-ops. The biggest of course is/was the Wheat Board... I think their cases are still pending. It was found to doing all kinds of dingy deals and half the 'board' are up on corruption charges. siiiiiigh.

If so, you'll have to admit that God surely does work in mysterious ways His wonders to perform.
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Warri, you surely can't be blaming God for what goes on in Canberra? :rofl:
 
No fight, Jillaroo.
This is merely ping pong and it's Di's serve next.

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I've forgotten the score already but I'm sure it's Advantage Warrigal ATM.

PS Don't look for logic in my last sentence.
 
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