OH No Not a Fourth one ?...

OneEyedDiva said:
Yet another conflicting report. I saw news reports just a day or so before that said once a person gets the booster, they wouldn't need to worry about getting anything else for quite some time. :unsure:
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precisely, which is why I am so disapointed at the mention of a fourth Vax.. 2nd Booster.. all in such a short period of time...
 

It's not a big deal or a surprise to me. Before I received my first booster, I knew there might be another one to come. With a deadly virus that has killed so many in the US and throughout the world, I'm grateful there is such an effective vaccination available to the citizens. My husband and I are fully vaccinated and boosted so far, neither of us have been hospitalized or died from this virus and we'd like to keep it that way. Life is good.
 
This latest variant is hardly any more dangerous than a normal cold or flu virus. So yes, if you are health-compromised, get the shot, as you would also do to protect against the flu. Otherwise, please leave us alone.

This is so suspicious. Pfizer made many billions on this and wants to make many billions more. This seems to be more than about public health at this point. And yes, Pfizer has shown that they put greed before health in the past - read https://abcnews.go.com/Business/pfizer-fined-23-billion-illegal-marketing-off-label/story?id=8477617
 

Michael Z said:
This latest variant is hardly any more dangerous than a normal cold or flu virus. So yes, if you are health-compromised, get the shot, as you would also do to protect against the flu. Otherwise, please leave us alone.

This is so suspicious. Pfizer made many billions on this and wants to make many billions more. This seems to be more than about public health at this point.
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OK!;)
 
Shero said:
I will have as many as required, each year if that is necessary!
Vaccinations save lives.
No one dies from being vaccinated.
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There are some that will argue that. One of our own here lost a healthy family member, just days after being vaxxed. Same thing happened to a friend of mine just two weeks after being vaxxed.

Just because we do not hear of it often on the news ..... doesn't mean that it does not happen .

Keeping it quiet ... is by design .......... jmo
 
rgp said:
There are some that will argue that. One of our own here lost a healthy family member, just days after being vaxxed. Same thing happened to a friend of mine just two weeks after being vaxxed.

Just because we do not hear of it often on the news ..... doesn't mean that it does not happen .
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Here is what the CDC says about it:

More than 547 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through February 14, 2022. During this time, VAERS received 12,304 preliminary reports of death (0.0022%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine
https://injuryfacts.nsc.org/all-injuries/preventable-death-overview/odds-of-dying/

Deaths do happen, based on these numbers your risk is about 21 in a million. In contrast your risk of dying in an automobile accident in the US is about 119 in a million per year. So you are about 5 or 6 times more likely to die in a car accident than from a Covid shot. But the risk is not zero, nothing we do has a zero risk of death. https://injuryfacts.nsc.org/all-injuries/preventable-death-overview/odds-of-dying/data-details/#:~:text=The odds of dying from a motor-vehicle crash in,2019 were 1 in 107.
 
rgp said:
There are some that will argue that. One of our own here lost a healthy family member, just days after being vaxxed. Same thing happened to a friend of mine just two weeks after being vaxxed.

Just because we do not hear of it often on the news ..... doesn't mean that it does not happen .

Keeping it quiet ... is by design .......... jmo
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No healthy person dies from the vaccine.
There is always an underlying issue that contributed to their dying.
 
Shero said:
No healthy person dies from the vaccine.
There is always an underlying issue that contributed to their dying.
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Fact Check: Have 966 People Died After Receiving the COVID vaccine?​


Newsweek selected only deaths as an adverse event, and selected the COVID vaccine as the only vaccine in the dataset. We specified Pfizer and Moderna as the vaccine manufacturers. We also chose our symptom onset interval as "All days," which ranges from 0 to over 120 days. We did not specify gender or age in the overall results. Our time frame ran from the earliest possible dates, "before 1990," to ensure every COVID vaccine was included.

Our VAERS result showed 970 people died after being given a Pfizer or Moderna vaccine shot. Of those deaths, 495 occurred following a Moderna shot, and 475 occurred following a Pfizer shot. Newsweek contacted Pfizer and Moderna for comment.
Mostly True.

The VAERS database is dense with data and the WONDER system might return slightly different statistics depending on how the user wants the data to be displayed, even if the search parameters are kept the same. Newsweek could not independently replicate the exact method The Epoch Times used to gather its data, but our VAERS death results were very close to those reported by the outlet.


But i am sure someone here KNOWS they were not healthy....... especially after someone else had a close family of friend that did pass from a vaccine issue.

While a large majority of Covid death were those with several other issues ...
Many get mad and often say "it does not matter if they had other contributing factors" ....
but that is an excuse for deaths from even adverse effects from shots ..... Hypocrisy
 
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The need for another booster was discussed around Christmas,
it was decided then that, one would be required around April.

This was in the UK, I don't know about other Countries.

Mike.
 
Big Pharma is laughing all the way to the bank and back again while the sheep tremble from what they read in the media. I came across an article in the local paper saying that it was a big mistake allowing so much power to Big Pharma for the last 2 years. My question is when will all this madness stop? Perhaps with WWIII?
 
win231 said:
You are mistaken - once again.
Wanting something to be true doesn't make it true.
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No, no, no! I refuse to believe anything that is said by these dumb scientists, who know less than I do about it! My hands are staying right where they are, over my ears., while I continue to shout "Liar, liar, pants on fire!"

And while we're at it, who says the earth is round, anyway?

(I've gotta hand it to you, Win. You are an expert at taking a non-issue and stirring it up once again.) 😁
 
Sunny said:
No, no, no! I refuse to believe anything that is said by these dumb scientists, who know less than I do about it! My hands are staying right where they are, over my ears., while I continue to shout "Liar, liar, pants on fire!"

And while we're at it, who says the earth is round, anyway?

(I've gotta hand it to you, Win. You are an expert at taking a non-issue and stirring it up once again.) 😁
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Perhaps you might review post #21 - from the "Experts & Scientists."
Then YOU can take YOUR hands away from your ears.
 
COVID-19 Vaccination and Non–COVID-19 Mortality Risk — Seven Integrated Health Care Organizations, United States, December 14, 2020–July 31, 2021 | MMWR (cdc.gov)

And perhaps YOU might read this report from the real experts and scientists. The percentage of deaths from the vaccine is so tiny that it's practically zero. Much less than 1%! So, saying "no one dies from it" might be an overstatement, if you want to be technical. Saying "practically no one" would be indisputable.

Compare that to the number of people killed in automobile crashes or from gunshots every day. Daily life is much more risky in general than getting that vaccine. After all, who knows what's in the air we are breathing? Will anti-breathing be your next movement?

C'mon, Win, admit you've lost this argument. Pretty much everybody else here seems to be tired of it anyway, and most of us have had the good sense to get vaccinated. I hope for your sake that you have as well. Talk about beating a dead horse!
 
Sunny said:
COVID-19 Vaccination and Non–COVID-19 Mortality Risk — Seven Integrated Health Care Organizations, United States, December 14, 2020–July 31, 2021 | MMWR (cdc.gov)

And perhaps YOU might read this report from the real experts and scientists. The percentage of deaths from the vaccine is so tiny that it's practically zero. Much less than 1%! So, saying "no one dies from it" might be an overstatement, if you want to be technical. Saying "practically no one" would be indisputable.

Compare that to the number of people killed in automobile crashes or from gunshots every day. Daily life is much more risky in general than getting that vaccine. After all, who knows what's in the air we are breathing? Will anti-breathing be your next movement?

C'mon, Win, admit you've lost this argument. Pretty much everybody else here seems to be tired of it anyway, and most of us have had the good sense to get vaccinated. I hope for your sake that you have as well. Talk about beating a dead horse!
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Right, the CDC are not "Real experts" because they say things you don't want to believe. :ROFLMAO:
As for "Beating a dead horse," I don't see you ignoring this topic. :giggle:
 
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Well, I guess if the CDC says I need another booster I will get it. I really don't want to since the second shot made me sick (chills, fever, nausea, etc.) and the booster did the same thing but even worse. But 48 hours of feeling bad is much better than dying from Covid. A friend who is/was younger than I just died from Covid. She was in the hospital for two weeks and seemed to have gotten through the worst of it and preparation was underway to get her into a rehab facility. But, then she just died.
 
Jeni said:

Fact Check: Have 966 People Died After Receiving the COVID vaccine?​


Newsweek selected only deaths as an adverse event, and selected the COVID vaccine as the only vaccine in the dataset. We specified Pfizer and Moderna as the vaccine manufacturers. We also chose our symptom onset interval as "All days," which ranges from 0 to over 120 days. We did not specify gender or age in the overall results. Our time frame ran from the earliest possible dates, "before 1990," to ensure every COVID vaccine was included.

Our VAERS result showed 970 people died after being given a Pfizer or Moderna vaccine shot. Of those deaths, 495 occurred following a Moderna shot, and 475 occurred following a Pfizer shot. Newsweek contacted Pfizer and Moderna for comment.
Mostly True.

The VAERS database is dense with data and the WONDER system might return slightly different statistics depending on how the user wants the data to be displayed, even if the search parameters are kept the same. Newsweek could not independently replicate the exact method The Epoch Times used to gather its data, but our VAERS death results were very close to those reported by the outlet.
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Mon Dieu! How many times must people be educated about Vaers?? They are Not a scientific body, they do not perform autopsies – they are a collecting data agency. Any fool can ring up Vaers and tell them any non-sense and they record it !!

“The VAERS website includes disclaimers that the reports may contain “incomplete, inaccurate, coincidental, or unverifiable” information and requires users acknowledge these limitations.

However, many of the social media posts encountered by Reuters Fact Check have failed to mention that reports in VAERS can be entered by anybody and are not deemed to show a causal connection to a vaccine until verified by the CDC.
 
Jeni said:
But i am sure someone here KNOWS they were not healthy....... especially after someone else had a close family of friend that did pass from a vaccine issue.

While a large majority of Covid death were those with several other issues ...
Many get mad and often say "it does not matter if they had other contributing factors" ....
but that is an excuse for deaths from even adverse effects from shots ..... Hypocrisy
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I repeat no healthy person dies from the vaccine. If someone says their relative died from the vaccine ask them to answer these questions honestly.
  • What sort of lifestyle did the relative have?
  • How many drugs did the relative use?
  • Did the relative drink to excess?
  • Was the relative “high” a lot of the time?
Not many will answer honestly because, they wish to find a scapegoat for their bad living and the vaccine fits the bill for them!!!
 
J-Kat said:
Well, I guess if the CDC says I need another booster I will get it. I really don't want to since the second shot made me sick (chills, fever, nausea, etc.) and the booster did the same thing but even worse. But 48 hours of feeling bad is much better than dying from Covid. A friend who is/was younger than I just died from Covid. She was in the hospital for two weeks and seemed to have gotten through the worst of it and preparation was underway to get her into a rehab facility. But, then she just died.
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That's your decision & yours alone to make - just as it's my decision not to be vaccinated.
It is interesting that you're willing to get several vaccines when they make you progressively more ill, but --as I said--it's your decision.
 
Shero said:
I repeat no healthy person dies from the vaccine. If someone says their relative died from the vaccine ask them to answer these questions honestly.
  • What sort of lifestyle did the relative have?
  • How many drugs did the relative use?
  • Did the relative drink to excess?
  • Was the relative “high” a lot of the time?
Not many will answer honestly because, they wish to find a scapegoat for their bad living and the vaccine fits the bill for them!!!
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You omitted a few:
Did they get enough sleep?
Were they overweight?
Did they have high blood pressure?
Did they eat unhealthy food?
Did they get enough exercise?
Did they breathe clean air in the country, or dirty air in the city?
Did they have any stress in their lives?
Did they take their vitamins?
Did they get enough fiber in their diet?
Did they eat bacon, ham, hot dogs or other processed meats?
:giggle:
 
Shero said:
I repeat no healthy person dies from the vaccine. If someone says their relative died from the vaccine ask them to answer these questions honestly.
  • What sort of lifestyle did the relative have?
  • How many drugs did the relative use?
  • Did the relative drink to excess?
  • Was the relative “high” a lot of the time?
Not many will answer honestly because, they wish to find a scapegoat for their bad living and the vaccine fits the bill for them!!!
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Ya got me there. I'm so upset now, I'm gonna have a six pack & a cigarette.
 
Sunny said:
No, no, no! I refuse to believe anything that is said by these dumb scientists, who know less than I do about it! My hands are staying right where they are, over my ears., while I continue to shout "Liar, liar, pants on fire!"

And while we're at it, who says the earth is round, anyway?

(I've gotta hand it to you, Win. You are an expert at taking a non-issue and stirring it up once again.) 😁
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Sunny, there should be no hyphen between "non" and "issue" unless a noun follows it.
Examples: non-issue subject. That would need a hyphen, since "subject" is a noun.
Three-Piece Suit.
Custom-Built Car.
Fourth-Vaccine Booster.
How do you use a hyphen in a sentence?
"Generally, you need the hyphen only if the two words are functioning together as an adjective before the noun they're describing. If the noun comes first, leave the hyphen out. This wall is load bearing. It's impossible to eat this cake because it is rock hard."
 
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