One giant hoax

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Today, in New Orleans, it was 20 degrees F. That is 12 degrees BELOW freezing. I lived in New Orleans for many years and I can testify that it NEVER, EVER got to the freezing point, much less 12 degrees below that.

Across the south, weather reporters are saying that in their entire careers they have never seen cold like this past few weeks. Heck, it even snowed in Florida. FLORIDA FOR CRYING OUT LOUD.

Simple common sense, which unfortunately is not so common, tells us that IF global warming is actually happening then IT SHOULD NOT BE GETTING COLDER.

IMO, the entire theory is a hoax from beginning to end. :lies:

Relax, my friends. The sky is not falling.
 

They, who ever the heck they are, have an agenda. And that agenda has nothing to do with any mythical global warming.
 

Simply taking a small part of the globe into consideration, for a short period of time, does not refute what the vast majority of scientists are telling us. I agree that this past month has been extremely cold in the eastern half of the U.S., but at the same time the readings from the Arctic and Alaska have been unusually warm...and pushing this Arctic air south. While we are having nasty cold weather, there are reports from Australia saying they are breaking all sorts of heat records. Global Warming....or more correctly, Climate Change...is something that will have its effects felt over a period of decades...maybe centuries.

I remember being in Atlanta one Winter, back in the early 1980's...going to a company school...and it snowed almost 4 inches, and the temps dropped into the single digits. That city turned into such a mess that the company called us all and canceled the classes for the day, and told us to stay put in the apartments...hitting the highways was like playing Russian Roulette.
 
Don M. said:
Simply taking a small part of the globe into consideration, for a short period of time, does not refute what the vast majority of scientists are telling us. I agree that this past month has been extremely cold in the eastern half of the U.S., but at the same time the readings from the Arctic and Alaska have been unusually warm...and pushing this Arctic air south. While we are having nasty cold weather, there are reports from Australia saying they are breaking all sorts of heat records. Global Warming....or more correctly, Climate Change...is something that will have its effects felt over a period of decades...maybe centuries.

I remember being in Atlanta one Winter, back in the early 1980's...going to a company school...and it snowed almost 4 inches, and the temps dropped into the single digits. That city turned into such a mess that the company called us all and canceled the classes for the day, and told us to stay put in the apartments...hitting the highways was like playing Russian Roulette.
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Without trying to start an argument, what do you say about Al Gore's idea that "global warming" could bring on a new ice age. I just don't get that. It seems like saying that if you turn on the oven it might freeze in there. Seems terribly goofy to me.
 
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I was in Florida (Clearwater) just last week. Tuesday through Friday temps made it into the 70's during the day. Saturday, the high was only 53°. When we arrived back in Baltimore at 9:00 p.m., the temperature was 18°. I drove an hour and a half north to get home from the airport and the temperature had dropped to 12°. It has been a brutally cold winter here in the mid-Atlantic, but the folks in Florida have told me that they have not had a good winter this season.

Even my friends in southern Tennessee have complained that they have never been this cold before.
 
There has been a comment about the 'miserable weather' we have in Chicago. I'll take that. We don't have hurricanes, floods. We do have cold weather, and snow, but we're prepared for it. We have salt and trucks and plows!. You can make whatever negative comments you want about midwest winters, but we keep going with a foot of snow and a few inches of snow is nothing more than 'frosting'. 20 degrees F is just a bit chilly. We are always amazed up here that a state of emergency has to be declared for what we consider a winter nuisance.
Those of you moving south to escape the 'bad' weather --- think again (unless you don't believe in climate change).
 
Sigh, I get a deja vu feeling about all this, but I'll say it yet again:

Global warming, climate change, etc. are not measured by how cold this particular winter happens to be. Temperatures go up and down all the time. Global warming is measured in geological time. The effect
on biodiversity, the melting of ice shelves, etc. takes place over centuries, maybe decades if we're extremely unlucky about it. But having a cold winter or hot summer - these prove nothing.

Want to see the actual results so far of global warming? Take a look at one of those maps of the Arctic, showing how much of it has been covered by ice since history began, and how much is ice now. Looked at historically, the ice cap is dangerously melting, endangering animal species and leaving us vulnerable to increased flooding. These are scientific facts, regardless of what the business/industrial community wishes us to believe. (Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain?)
 
It is 23 degrees here in North Central Florida. I hate this cold weather and it will be 26 degrees tonight. Hopefully it will warm up this upcoming week.
 
It' unfortunate that it was Al Gore who made the early statements about CLIMATE CHANGE due to global warming. That made it political. Some will not accept scientific if it conflicts with their politics.
 
I think Al Gore injecting himself into this issue was a Huge mistake. He was just another biased "do as I say...don't do as I do" politician, and he hardened a lot of people's attitudes with his cynical behavior.

The earth has seen countless warming and cooling cycles over its millions of years...and will continue to do so. However, the big concern with this cycle should be the devastation it will likely bring to millions/billions of people...who did not exist in previous cycles...and the trillions of dollars damage/loss it will cause to all the coastal cities, etc.

Personally, I think that even the most drastic human attempts to stop this cycle...total ban of fossil fuels, etc....will do little to stave off the inevitable. It would make far more sense, IMO, for people to begin to migrate to higher ground.
 
How could the earth be warming if it's so cold where it isn't normally cold? What we don't actually see but is happening is being blamed on mankind. Could be true but since science still can't explain why dinosaurs died off I'll go with I won't be around to get to know for sure.


What is known and visible is this.


Everywhere on Earth ice is changing. The famed snows of Kilimanjaro have melted more than 80 percent since 1912. Glaciers in the Garhwal Himalaya in India are retreating so fast that researchers believe that most central and eastern Himalayan glaciers could virtually disappear by 2035. Arctic sea ice has thinned significantly over the past half century, and its extent has declined by about 10 percent in the past 30 years. NASA's repeated laser altimeter readings show the edges of Greenland's ice sheet shrinking. Spring freshwater ice breakup in the Northern Hemisphere now occurs nine days earlier than it did 150 years ago, and autumn freeze-up ten days later. Thawing permafrost has caused the ground to subside more than 15 feet (4.6 meters) in parts of Alaska. From the Arctic to Peru, from Switzerland to the equatorial glaciers of Man Jaya in Indonesia, massive ice fields, monstrous glaciers, and sea ice are disappearing, fast.


https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/global-warming/big-thaw/




Those that live where cold is the norm for this time of year and they enjoy it good for them, I've been there done that. Just checked the weather for the week ahead. It's supposed to dip down into the high 30's overnight for a couple of nights. Probably have to wear a sweat shirt if I have to go out during the day.

No matter what. I think it would be interesting to be around 100 years from now to see what actually takes place.
 
C'est Moi said:
Of course there is Climate Change. The planet has been in a state of change since the very beginning of time.
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Exactly ! The earth is going about it's business regardless of what man does. 12,000 years ago the Sahara Desert was a vast green land with lakes, rivers and all manner of water loving creatures such as: crocodiles, hippos, elephants, otters, and dozens of species of water birds. In a short 3,000 years all that changed, mankind was driven out, the animals died off and only the burning sands were left behind.

If anyone can prove that happened because of man, I'll eat my words.
 
Just two days ago Siberia recorded a record low of -88 degrees..[colder than Mars]..I'm thinkin' those folks would welcome a tad bit of global warming bout now....
 
OneEyedDiva said:
Maybe that's why they changed the terminology to "climate change". Cause damn is this climate changing!
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Exactly, so. When they changed the name to climate change, instead of global warming, they guaranteed that they would be correct, no matter what happens. If it gets hotter and more desert is created, they were correct. If it gets colder and a mini "ice age" starts, they were correct. Pretty neat trick, huh ? It would be like me saying someone is going to win the Superbowl.

Everyone may not have noticed but they have begun to call those big white bears up north, "ice bears".
Watch out when they start changing the names of people and things. He is not an illegal alien, he is an undocumented migrant. They think they can trick us when they change the names of people and things.
 
Sunny said:
Sigh, I get a deja vu feeling about all this, but I'll say it yet again:

Global warming, climate change, etc. are not measured by how cold this particular winter happens to be. Temperatures go up and down all the time. Global warming is measured in geological time. The effect
on biodiversity, the melting of ice shelves, etc. takes place over centuries, maybe decades if we're extremely unlucky about it. But having a cold winter or hot summer - these prove nothing.

Want to see the actual results so far of global warming? Take a look at one of those maps of the Arctic, showing how much of it has been covered by ice since history began, and how much is ice now. Looked at historically, the ice cap is dangerously melting, endangering animal species and leaving us vulnerable to increased flooding. These are scientific facts, regardless of what the business/industrial community wishes us to believe. (Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain?)
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But how much of that has been going on for centuries?

Where I am sitting right now was a glacier about a mile high which melted and formed part of the Great Lakes.

That was only 10,000 years ago.

What you are saying is not scientific facts. It's scientific predictions based on computer models.

When it happens it becomes a fact.

Where I live there is a university that does research on Polar Bears.

Their claim is that not only are they surviving, they are thriving. And yet the Polar Bear is the poster boy for the global warming community.
 
In 2015 we had the coldest, snowiest winter in recorded history which means even my great grandparents never lived through a winter so cold and snowy. I don't believe in global warming either. I think these things just happen. Although industrial pollution probably is a reality and impacts out weather.
 

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