Open Carry

Goodness, LOL! There are a zillion people who carry guns openly.

They can't do it in theaters, college campuses, malls, and other places where there are gun free zones. I think CCW is the answer.

I carry a gun. I have a CCW permit. In fact, I often carry it openly. I do this when I'm at a convenience store late at night getting gas. No one will mess with me.

I work at Walmart, and I have a CCW (concealed carry weapon) and that little S&W .38 is always somewhere in my pants. Thank God for cargo pants! A couple years ago some dumb Mexican decided he was going to get all frisky with a knife on me, trying to rob me in our parking lot.

I said, "Yes, I'll give you my wallet. Please, I'll do what you say, please don't hurt me, please."

He said, "Gimme wallet NOW," and he was brandishing a huge knife.

I pulled out my .38, jammed it into his forehead and said, "Here's my wallet. Get the **** away from me or you are dead."

He ran. I pulled out my cellphone and called 911. I saw which car he ran to, got a make, model and a tag and reported it. The police nailed him and his friends less than six hours later.

Open carry can be a deterrent I think, and I'm okay with that. The problem for criminals is those damned old ladies with CCW.
 

imp said:
You miss the point. If you ran, you drew attention. If you remained quiet, attracting no attention of the idiot with the gun, AND, if you yourself were armed, you might just stop this bastard's escalation. imp
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No... If the establishment had the option of banning guns.. I would go to the proprietor and let them know that I will not be back. Hopefully if enough people do this it will affect the business and they will come to their senses and refuse to let these idiots in.
 
"Have gun will travel reads the card of a man..."
 

I once went into a large Flea Market (car boot to us Brits) in Florida, and went to one particular stall where they were selling guns of all shapes and sizes. It is quite common. Everything was for sale providing you had a Floridian driving licence. The days speciality were Thompson machine guns, the top favoured by Al Capone. They looked new.

I talked to the guy selling them and asked if you could still buy ammunition for them. He opened up a couple of boxes, and inside were perhaps twenty or thirty circular magazines (30 rounds each one?) and more conventional straight magazines. Everything was for sale if you had the money.

Knowing that I wasn't an American, he showed me pistols and rifles dating back to the Civil War, pistols used by 'cowboys', rifles used by hunters. There were also quite a few ex-military rifles, AK-47's and so on.

He then told me something I shall never forget. Most of the revolvers and modern weapons - if they were ever to be used - would be fired in domestic arguments or suicides.

Most of my American friends admitted to owning at least one firearm. Their justification mainly was for self defence, with only a few who went hunting. They have a different mind-set from us British. I'm not saying they are either right or wrong, just different from ourselves. I do know that it only takes one or two irresponsible idiots to give all gun owners a bad name; that is a shame.
A bit like lawyers: ninety-seven percent of lawyers give all of their profession a bad name.
 
I've just reread your last posting, Pookie, about having a CCW permit.....

OK, so I admit to being a coward of the highest order, but let me ask you a question, please.

On reflection (or should I say reflexion), would you rather have simply given your wallet to the Mexican, or lived with the permanent memory of having killed somebody for the sake of ten bucks?

He may have been a poor guy who had starving kids at home. He may have been wandering around the car park because that is where the food was, where the rich guys were buying far more food than they needed. He may have been mentally disadvantaged.


You were legally correct in what you did, and probably morally correct.
It's just that I don't know what I would have done....
... well, I suppose I do. I'd have given him my wallet - if I thought it would have ended there and then.

As for the blue rinse ladies carrying guns in their purses - Jeez, that scares the hell out of me!!
 
Hanfonius said:
As for the blue rinse ladies carrying guns in their purses - Jeez, that scares the hell out of me!!
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Joke:I made a traffic stop on an elderly lady the other day for speeding on U.S. 166 Eastbound at Mile Marker 73 just East of Sedan, KS. I asked for her driver's license, registration, and proof of insurance. The lady took out the required information and handed it to me. In with the cards I was somewhat surprised (due to her advanced age) to see she had a conceal carry permit. I looked at her and ask if she had a weapon in her possession at this time.

She responded that she indeed had a .45 automatic in her glove box. Something — body language, or the way she said it — made me want to ask if she had any other firearms. She did admit to also having a 9mm Glock in her center console. Now I had to ask one more time if that was all. She responded once again that she did have just one more, a .38 special in her purse. I then asked her what was she so afraid of.

She looked me right in the eye and said, "Not a damn thing!"
 
Hanfonius said:
A Parkinson's semi-automatic???

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Yeah... you'd be safer standing directly in front rather than off to the side..

Joking aside... From what I understand, it's not that easy to aim a gun and hit what you are aiming at.. particularly if the situation is unclear and there are people panicking and screaming... or if it's in a dark theater. I can see a whole lot more folks killed by "friendly fire" rather than that of the shooter.
 
Pookie said:
Goodness, LOL!
Open carry can be a deterrent I think, and I'm okay with that.
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Time will tell but I think we're looking at thousands of wannabee shooters that will panic and shoot some innocent bystander. When it become a REAl life situation the brain will not think fast enough to save you or anybody else, so you just keep shooting randomly to save your own skin.
 
Just kind of...okay not "kind of" but completely appalled by the mindset that one has to be armed 24/7 for protection. I mean I live next to Newark New Jersey and we don't even have that kind of paranoia. Oddly enough some of the most gun happy folks seem to be in areas where there is statistically less threat of violent crime.

My cousin's Dad always had a full rifle case when we were kids. My cousin commutes through Kansas City with a rifle on the passenger side seat...just for protection. I mean sure if someone tries to jack your car, what could possibly go wrong? Unless it's ruled that the person you shot at was just asking for directions?

I repeat the best personal and home protection is a dog. Maybe around forty to sixty pounds. The breed is unimportant, except you don't want one who is super happy waggy with strangers. Easygoing and well trained but a touch standoffish. In your home, in your car, walking through the darkest empty lot. I can almost guarantee no one will consider approaching you.

Not to mention a morbid chuckle...imagining the greeter at Wally World opening fire, as if Walmart isn't disturbing enough already.
 
Totally agree with the get-a-dog approach. We used to have a black kelpie, a medium sized sheep dog breed.
She seemed to be a deterrent to people entering our property by other than the front door.
If hubby was ever away overnight I brought her into the bedroom and then I slept soundly, letting her keen ears worry about strange sounds in the night.

She was not a guard dog and in no way savage but she did have that instinct to protect.

As for dark parking lots, I stay out of those.
 
Hanfonius said:
I've just reread your last posting, Pookie, about having a CCW permit.....

OK, so I admit to being a coward of the highest order, but let me ask you a question, please.

On reflection (or should I say reflexion), would you rather have simply given your wallet to the Mexican, or lived with the permanent memory of having killed somebody for the sake of ten bucks?

He may have been a poor guy who had starving kids at home. He may have been wandering around the car park because that is where the food was, where the rich guys were buying far more food than they needed. He may have been mentally disadvantaged.


You were legally correct in what you did, and probably morally correct.
It's just that I don't know what I would have done....
... well, I suppose I do. I'd have given him my wallet - if I thought it would have ended there and then.

As for the blue rinse ladies carrying guns in their purses - Jeez, that scares the hell out of me!!
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I understand your point, and I have taken your point very seriously.

He had a huge knife and it was coming at my throat. I'm a disabled vet. Maybe I should have given him my wallet....I don't know. I made a quick decision in the moment it happened.

I can say there's no way in Hades I will ever be brought down without one heck of a fight.

And you are no coward, honey. Remember, everyone reacts to things very differently.
 
I mean I can understand fear if someone is coming at you with a knife. But besides a dog I also recommend self defense courses. Regardless of age or gender a good class can inspire confidence. A big plus is kickboxing. Self defense and an excellent workout with both cardio and strength training. I'm a petite 5'4, but between a physical job and daily exercise I know I could disable an average sized guy with just muscle.
 

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