Origin of Creation

[Warrigal]

In response to fuzzybuddy

Sometimes there are no facts to go by, just mathematics.

Einstein's e=mc2 is one such example. This term turned up in a longer equation and he was puzzled by it. He surmised that it could only mean that mass could be converted into energy and this term would calculate the amount of energy released when a certain quantity of mass was destroyed. It was a theory without a fact to go with it but that came later when nuclear fission was discovered.

His other theory, gravitational waves, has only recently been verified. The technology was developed after the theory in search of the necessary evidence.

Something that does intrigue me is a black hole. I never heard of one when I was a child.

Can matter pass through a black hole to another dimension or is all of it simply destroyed and converted to energy? Is there such a thing as a worm hole in space?

I will never know the answer but still, worm holes and black holes are quite fascinating.

 

[Dana]

I respect others' opinions and would not try to change their thinking. Having said that, I find it difficult to understand how anyone can look up into the sky on a dark night and see the perfect alignment of the stars, look through a telescope and observe the planets, watch the seasons, the plants and all of nature and not have a feeling of perpetual awe. I believe only a mathematician could have created the universe. Am I rambling? Perhaps, but I do believe there is an incredible spiritual force guiding us, some call that force God (including me). What is God? I guess we will never really find out. Until then, I shall ponder, dream and wish upon a star.

 

[Warrigal]

Me too Dana and I am also overawed when I look closely at the tiny foot of a sun lizard (very small skink common in my garden). It has such tiny and fragile digits and I wonder how anything that small can have life surging through it. What is life, I wonder?

Yes, I know all about evolution and the pentadactyl limb but still I am amazed at the artistry of the little lizard's feet.

 

[Knight]

We are born, we live, we die. Knowing the beginning of life on earth with the changes that have occurred & will continue to occur are interesting to ponder. Other than that knowing definitively is the ongoing mystery.

 

[Capt Lightning]

Time exists to stop everything happening at once.

 

[Knight]

Time exists to stop everything happening at once.

It's when time stops for someone that the mystery begins. Will a creator that would be billions of years old be met, will we be reincarnated or that's it that's all there is.

 

[fmdog44]

Trying to grasp the Big Bang remember there were no laws of physics. Suddenly there was gas, no sound, no light just gas. The universe expanded at a rate of in comparison to that of a piece the size of one centimeter to that of ten times the width of the Milky Way instantly. That is faster than the speed of light. That comes from Stephen Hawking not from me.

 

[Gardenlover]

Trying to grasp the Big Bang remember there were no laws of physics. Suddenly there was gas, no sound, no light just gas. The universe expanded at a rate of in comparison to that of a piece the size of one centimeter to that of ten times the width of the Milky Way instantly. That is faster than the speed of light. That comes from Stephen Hawking not from me.

My head hurts.

 

[Sunny]

OK, now that we've solved the mysteries of the universe, space/time, the origin of religion, what came before the Big Bang, and all the rest of it...
what do we take up as our next topic?

 

[Chet]

Mathematics is used to quantify nature and mathematics includes the term "infinity". It's only conjecture that there was an origin and a creation. All the matter in the universe will eventually collapse on itself because of gravity, creating a singularity which in turn will produce another big bang and a new kind of universe. It has already started with black holes. The process is endless goes on into infinite time.

 

[Oris Borloff]

I wasn't invited to the Big Bang. Heavy sigh, rejection.....

 

[tbeltrans]

I have a science degree in mathematics and am very familiar with the concept of infinity. It is very useful but very hard to explain. The simplest way I can think of is that something just keeps going, without limit. Some things have a fixed starting point and extend infinitely away from it e.g. a single beam of light. Sounds simple, doesn't it and could apply to the universe or to time itself.

However, even light is not that simple. Light has all the properties of radiation but it also has properties that match a stream of particles, all travelling in the same direction. How can it be two things at once. It isn't. It is the one thing but our ways of explaining it are clumsy. Some of us are now just content to look upon light as one of the marvels of the universe, to appreciate its wonder and beauty and be grateful. Without light our planet would be nothing but death.

I don't think, science notwithstanding, that we fully understand the concept of time either. We measure it, plug values into equations and we know that our lifetimes are finite but what about time itself? Is time infinite and if it is, is it infinite in both directions? We have a word for infinite time - eternity. Since I have a weak understanding of infinity, I cannot even begin to understand what eternity would look like.

So, I don't waste any time trying to understand such lofty concepts. I do know that I am alive now and I know that the sun is very likely to rise in the East each morning giving me an allocation of time and I hope to spend most of it experiencing beauty and passing on some intangibles to my family and other humans I may encounter each day. A friendly smile, a helping hand or just a small slice of my time.

I know that I sound rather like I am preaching but I am just trying to explain to people who find ideas of creation, big bangs, multiverses and other challenges to the mind really important, that everybody doesn't share the same passionate interest. This is not a criticism. It is just a difference in perspective.

Over, and out.

There are a number of us around here that have degrees and (I am sure) appreciate informative posts such as yours. There are some folks around here (including me) that post rather lengthy posts from time to time. Fairly quickly, I can determine those whom I will take the time to read and those I won't. You are definitely among those I read.

By the way, your post sounds informative, rather than preaching to me. Thanks for taking the time to think about, and then post, on the subject. My degrees are Computer Science, so for me, time is measured in nanoseconds.

Tony

 

[tbeltrans]

I respect others' opinions and would not try to change their thinking. Having said that, I find it difficult to understand how anyone can look up into the sky on a dark night and see the perfect alignment of the stars, look through a telescope and observe the planets, watch the seasons, the plants and all of nature and not have a feeling of perpetual awe. I believe only a mathematician could have created the universe. Am I rambling? Perhaps, but I do believe there is an incredible spiritual force guiding us, some call that force God (including me). What is God? I guess we will never really find out. Until then, I shall ponder, dream and wish upon a star.

Agreed! Though I really don't subscribe to a specific religious definition of "God", it would be difficult for me to have worked as long as I have in technology, observed nature and the skies that you describe in your post, and deny that all of this isn't intelligent design. I mention technology because if one works in the design and development of technology long enough, we come to realize at some point how positively amateurish our best attempts are when compared to the natural world's design.

Tony