Plandemic. COMING SUMMER 2020 Prior to the completion of the full-length documentary we'll be releasing a series of vignettes. The first installment

Yeah, that's their story. They really don't want us to see this particular video, though. Too much control of what "they" think is good for us these days, and I don't like it.
Agree. I'm not a child that needs information censored to shelter me from fears. I'm an adult that has the right to ALL information and I'm not an imbecile. I can sort out and decide for myself what information is trust worthy. Freedom to decide. Freedom of speech. I have to believe the video is being removed due to higher ups with their hands in the pot and are afraid of being caught. Why else to keep removing it? We the public can decide for ourselves to believe it or not. 🌹
 

One of the nice things about Wikipedia is that it does have links to the sources of the information so that you can check that if you want to. There was also an article about Dr. Mikovits in the Washington Post today that runs along the lines of what's in the Wikipedia article.
"There was also an article about Dr. Mikovits in the Washington Post today that runs along the lines of what's in the Wikipedia article."

Of course there was. Too many people have seen the video so now they must discredit it. 🌹
 
One of the nice things about Wikipedia is that it does have links to the sources of the information so that you can check that if you want to. There was also an article about Dr. Mikovits in the Washington Post today that runs along the lines of what's in the Wikipedia article.
Yes, because any news outlet owned by Jeff Bezos must be fair and balanced. :D I'm not trying to be argumentative, I'm just saying that I don't like the censorship that is happening. As Becky said, we are adults and don't need to be manipulated by censors deciding what we can and cannot see.
 

My cousin had sent me this video on FB. There are some falsehoods in it, apparently. Also the video touts the use of the controversial drug that "you know who" was touting (he has an interest in the company). It also knocks the use of face masks which is dangerous IMO. A very learned friend of mine questioned the timing of this video. Here's the article about the video being removed from multiple venues.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/05/08/plandemic-judy-mikovits-coronavirus/
 
Why is it so hard for people to just accept that this virus is a natural phenomenon and is killing right and left? Pandemics go back as far as mankind itself and will continue to do so until we are extinct.

I think they are basing their removal of videos on whether or not there is any evidence to back up what the videos say, not whether it is "good for us." Any crackpot can get on the net and post any kind of video they want and stir up all kinds of things, without any expertise or evidence to back up what they say.

For the same reason it is so hard for you to accept the possibility that maybe someone doesn't have our best intentions at heart and could be trying to hurt us.

And further more...no one in this thread said these videos or links were fact. We are merely sharing information so we can form our own opinion which I believe we are well within our rights to do without people coming into a post and slamming us for just checking things out.
 
I read somewhere that Facebook and Youtube were actively taking unproven "conspiracy theory" videos off its site in an effort to stop misinformation being foisted on the public.

Where did you read that? Do you have a link to back this up?
And how do you know this is "misinformation?" Do you have all the facts? Do you know everything that's going on right now? If so...no offense intended but please share your knowledge if you know for a fact that is right.

None of us have actual proof of anything. This is all speculation and likely will be forever. It's certainly not worth fighting over.
 
Where did you read that? Do you have a link to back this up?
And how do you know this is "misinformation?" Do you have all the facts? Do you know everything that's going on right now? If so...no offense intended but please share your knowledge if you know for a fact that is right.

None of us have actual proof of anything. This is all speculation and likely will be forever. It's certainly not worth fighting over.
I posted the link to the articles about the removals in my previous comment.
 
I posted the link to the articles about the removals in my previous comment.

I appreciate that. However, it doesn't make it anymore true than her videos. My point is this...none of us were there. We were not witnesses so we can't say whether or not something went down or not or whether or not any of these videos or articles are true and factual. How could we possibly know what has actually happened? Were we all there in the room? No. That's all I'm saying. She shared this video for us to view and research and determine for ourselves what we believe or don't believe. I just like to see and read everything to study and see what all is going on. If this virus doesn't kill me...maybe I'll learn the truth with everyone else and maybe not. But, I think I'm gonna just read and watch and think on my own because it's not cool doing it in a group setting with everyone getting mad at people for just checking things out.
 
I quote from the Washington Post article (see @OneEyedDiva's post #56 above).

"The film is so questionable that social media platforms including Facebook, YouTube and Vimeo on Thursday scrubbed it from their sites. A Vimeo spokesperson, for example, said that the company “stands firm in keeping our platform safe from content that spreads harmful and misleading health information. The video in question has been removed … for violating these very policies.”"

That's why it was removed from those sites. These platforms learned the hard way (in 2016) that not everyone is deserving of - nor entitled to -an equal voice on their platforms. They remove all manner of inflammatory, dangerous, pornographic, false and misleading content.
 
So it's not ok to look at videos and read links on here unless they're approved by a certain bunch of you? Please tell me that's not how this works? If that's the case I'll keep it to myself from now on. Wouldn't wanna upset anybody.
Just as @Matrix, who owns and runs this site, has the right to remove contents he finds questionable or inflammatory, and to ban certain posters, so do youtube, Facebook, etc., have the right to do so on their sites.

Youtube & FB are not the public square where people have the right to scream their lungs out on any topic that crosses their minds.

@MarciKS, It's ok for you to watch whatever you want. It's equally ok for certain websites to decide that they don't want to carry certain content because it offends them or damages their brand.

"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge." - Isaac Asimov
 
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The Plandemic video with Dr. Mikovitz (I think that's supposed to be the first installment) was taken down, but not before it had well over million views. And of course the conspiracy theorists are all over it, sharing and copying and presenting the video as fact.

Here are some facts. They're well researched. I have links to everything here. There's also so much more info but this is already going to be long, so I haven't expanded much.

Dr. Mikovits was in fact charged with stealing computer data, notebooks and other related property from Whittemore Peterson Institute in Reno Nevada. (WPI) There was a warrant for her arrest, and a duly authorized search warrant. The warrants and the charges against her are on file.

She was fired from WPI after her study was discredited and retracted by a prestigious peer-reviewed journal called Science. She then refused to turn over a cell sample shipment received at her lab.

The materials weren't planted. There are two affidavits, one from Max Profts and another from Amanda McKenzie, both researchers at WPI during Mikovits' time there, and additionally Max was also a tenant of Dr. Mikovits. Max's affidavit details his own complicity in stealing the notebooks and delivering them to Dr. Mikovits. His sworn affidavit was the basis of the warrant for Dr. Mikovits’ arrest and the search of her home in California.

At one point Mikovits HAD done some reasonable science, and then published a paper in the journal called Science about XMRV and chronic fatigue syndrome. The paper was retracted because nobody could replicate the findings, and it was concluded that the XMRV came entirely from laboratory contamination.

She goes on to insist the virus was manipulated, man made etc. The genetic structure of the novel coronavirus rules out laboratory manipulation and this has been documented by researchers from several public health organizations. That finding doesn't rule out the possibility that Chinese researchers were studying the virus in a lab when it managed to spread outside the lab, although the government there has denied that.

The virus that causes COVID-19 is a new disease — it’s not derived from Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome as Dr. Mikovits claims. The novel coronavirus is similar to SARS in some respects. Both are human coronaviruses that originated in bats, cause respiratory illness and spread through coughs and sneezes. But the viruses only have a 79% genetic similarity, according to researchers. The novel coronavirus is more genetically similar to other bat-derived coronaviruses. I'm not even sure why this is such a Big Deal to her.

Re: monetary kickbacks from hospitals/doctors. Hospitals aren't getting additional or extra money from over reporting Covid-19 deaths. There is no financial incentive. The very nature of how illness is reported and charted in line with countless medical laws precludes this from happening beyond the procedures that are already in place, or were put in place by Federal Law.

MEDICARE pays hospitals a set amount of money for the treatment of certain diagnoses, regardless of what the treatment actually costs. E.g. when my Doctor friend Rowland performed cataract surgeries on Medicare patients, BY LAW he could only charge $500, even though patients not covered by Medicare were charged thousands of dollars. And that's also why many doctors won't take patients on Medicare because they're forbidden to charge more than Medicare will pay them for those procedures.

So, Medicare has determined that a hospital gets $13,000 if a COVID-19 patient on Medicare is admitted, and $39,000 if the patient goes on a ventilator. In addition, Medicare will pay hospitals a 20% "add-on" for COVID-19 patients. That’s a result of the CARES Act, the largest of the three Federal Stimulus laws enacted in response to the coronavirus, which was signed into law March 27. Congress included the add-on in the CARES Act because hospitals have lost revenue from routine care and elective surgeries, so hospitals are being compensated, similarly to the way WE get Stimulus Checks or there's an extra $600 in unemployment benefits etc.

Mikovits' claim that Hydroxychloroquine is ‘effective against these families of viruses’ is unproven. There is no cure or vaccine for SARS or the novel coronavirus. While some studies have found that hydroxychloroquine could mitigate some of the symptoms associated with COVID-19, other research has found no such effect. So her claim that the drug is "effective" against those kinds of viruses is at best a mis-statement.

With more than 50 studies in the works, as well as an NIH clinical trial, it’s too soon to say whether hydroxychloroquine is a viable treatment for the coronavirus even though some doctors have resorted to trying it as a last ditch effort. (The most recent study, a large-scale study of nearly 1,400 New York-area patients with moderate to severe COVID-19, found that patients fared no better by taking hydroxychloroquine.)

There is also zero evidence to substantiate Mikovits' claim that the flu vaccine increases the odds of getting Covid-19. There was one study about coronaviruses in general back in 2018, but it was flawed..first of all it was before Covid-19, and secondly the number of vaccinated subjects was twice as large as the number of unvaccinated subjects, which of course skews the results.

I also can't find anything about being injected with coronavirus if you had a flu vaccine. I just can't find anything that might lead Mikovits' to that conclusion. According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, most flu vaccines in the United States protect against four different kinds of viruses: influenza A (H1N1), influenza A (H3N2), and two influenza B viruses. Others protect against three kinds of flu viruses. There are no coronaviruses in the flu shot. And there are no human coronavirus vaccines. This is the kind of science you can't fudge. The genetic markers for these viruses are either there, or they're not. Covid-19 just isn't there.

And finally, Dr Mikovit's claim that wearing a mask makes you sick from your "reactivated coronavirus expressions" is bogus. There just isn't any science ANYWHERE that even explains what "coronavirus expressions" are. It's NOT a scientific term. "There is nothing about wearing a mask that would have any biologically relevant impact on viral activity," said Richard Peltier, an assistant professor of environmental health sciences at the University of Massachusetts-Amherst, in an email. "Wearing a mask simply catches the droplets before they reach our mouth or nose. It isn’t rocket science, and Dr. Mikovits should know that."

There are other points in the vid. I just touched on a few that seemed the most important as I watched.

I think this is just one of countless Conspiracy Theory videos that are rampant right now. Some folks really need to believe that an event or situation is the result of a secret plan made by powerful people. And I get it. Things are ****ing scary right now. When folks feel vulnerable, threatened and powerless, believing in the latest conspiracy theory gives them more a feeling of control. So it's easier to believe that the virus was created in a lab, or that there are drugs to help but they're being suppressed by the government, or that the flu vaccine is the cause, or that masks make you sick etc., because all those things are easier to control than the fact that it's just some random event that happened in nature that is no one's fault and we're still trying to figure it out.
 
From TechnologyReview.com

The news: A 25-minute clip of an upcoming documentary featuring a well-known anti-vaccine conspiracy theorist was viewed millions of times this week on social media, before Facebook and YouTube pledged to remove copies of it from their platforms. On Thursday, Facebook told reporters that the documentary violated its policies by promoting the potentially harmful claim that wearing a mask can make you ill. According to Digital Trends, the clip had more than 1.8 million views and 150,000 shares on Facebook. It was also viewed millions of times on YouTube before being removed for violating covid-19 misinformation policies.

How it spread: Anti-vaccine activists have drawn millions of views on social media by promoting covid-19 conspiracy theories. AS we reported earlier, this isn’t an accident: activists are seeking out larger audiences in the middle of the pandemic by using the same techniques that YouTube creators and influencers use to get views. They’ve sought out interviews with bigger, more mainstream YouTubers, latched on to existing trends, encouraged their fans to amplify their messages, and built presences on every social platform they can find. Renee DiResta, a researcher at the Stanford Internet Observatory who works to combat this type of misinformation, told us this week that if anti-vaccine activists feel they “can create content people will find if they search for a specific term,” they’ll invest the time.

When copies of “Plandemic” began to disappear from YouTube, supporters bombarded Twitter with claims that they were being unfairly censored. The documentary subsequently became a trending hashtag on Thursday, driving even more attention, outrage, and media coverage to it.

The potential harm: “Plandemic,” along with other conspiracy-oriented videos contain several inaccurate claims that could lead people to try ineffective, sometimes dangerous treatments for covid-19, or encourage people to ignore public health guidelines for staying safe. Judy Mikovits, the anti-vaccine figure featured in “Plandemic,” told you tuber Patric David-Bet in a lengthy conversation last week that a flu vaccine from the mid-2010s is “driving the pandemic,” that wearing a mask will “activate” the virus in the body, and that Anthony Fauci should be charged with “treason.” Some of those claims were repeated in the clip, which itself was supposed to be a teaser for a longer documentary.


link here
 
"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge." - Isaac Asimov

Good quote, StarSong!

This all reminds me of those ads that frequently keep popping up on the Internet: "Weird trick your doctor doesn't want you to know about."
It always leads into an ad for some snake oil product. The frequent use of certain words: weird, trick, your doctor, etc. makes me think these ads were all written by the same sleazy ad agency.
 
I think with many a high profile events and/or stunning/surprising news is that are a lot of associated side stories. It's those associated stories or people, places, events that need or want to cover-up anything associated with the main event. Mention the word 'vaccine' of course big pharma will come up and they don't want bad pr period. Also in video Dr Faucci past dealings, associations etc come into play like the Dr that apparently stole her research and yet published his own paper(academic theft and competition). And yet he's considered a rock star in some circles now. Same for the JFK Assassination, all the dirty dealings of the CIA, Mafia and government came out. Many of those cover ups probably started out to cover their nefarious practices not a plot to assassinate a president.

Also with many currents many exploit conditions from the start to the end. All along the way there is someone, company or organization that will try to exploit multiple facets to an event to their advantage.

One of the biggest things as well and is even another thread on this board is that many will not back off or acknowledge a bad decision so they wind up trying to keep the old narrative and/or conditions in which they based the decision on. People in general don't like to admit they are wrong. Unlike private individuals government officials, department heads, ceos etc are high profile public figures open to intense scrutiny which incentivizes the weak or ethically challenged to say the least.

It's a little too soon to assess this event as a conspiracy or as straightforward as is presented because information and activity is still flowing.
 
Yes they want to be sure it has enough strength to bore through to our amygdalas thus the tree trimming. The electric company and the phone company are in this together as are the government and doctors.
 
Was there an outcry with 4G?
Problem is that it seems everytime somebody produces a study that shows emf or electro magnetic field can cause health issues the phone companies and/or power companies sometimes produce a study that says the opposite. Dueling studies. They have been testing micro wave transmissions as a weapon, 60 Minutes did a piece years ago on that. The right frequency can do wrong to the human body and/or living things.

Actually I think was part of the reason early flip phones wound up with an extending antenna to keep the emf away from head because some said they could cause brain cancer.
 


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