Plants Can Tell When They're Being Eaten. What Will The Vegans Do.

It's a living breathing organism like every other thing that has a beginning and end as we do, so those who think they aren't causing pain by just eating meat. Bite me each leaf, you are tearing the limb off of a living something or other. :playful:
 
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One small, inconclusive study, concluded that thale cress (?) may or may not release a toxin to try to prevent caterpillars eating the leaves and on the strength of this, apparently, every plant in the plant kingdom has a degree of conciousness equivalent to that of an animal! Tenuous to say the least.

Translating, it's a case of "vegans 'kill' carrots, therefore I can kill cows with a clear conscience".

Go over to YouTube and seek out 'If slaughterhouses had glass walls', decide for yourself if it is quite the same.
 
Fruitarians will eat only what falls (or would fall) naturally from a plant: that is, foods that can be harvested without killing or harming the plant. These foods consist primarily of culinary fruits, nuts, and seeds. Fruitarians eat only fallen fruit. Some do not eat grains, believing it is unnatural to do so, and some fruitarians feel that it is improper for humans to eat seeds as they contain future plants, or nuts and seeds, or any foods besides juicy fruits.
 
AprilT said:
It's a living breathing organism like every other thing that has a beginning and end as we do, so those who think they aren't causing pain by just eating meat. Bite me each leaf, you are tearing the limb off of a living something or other. :playful:
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I'm not sure what you are trying to say here. Could you clarify?
 
The vegan lifestyle operates on the basis of doing the least harm, lightest footprint, etc., and veganism fills the bill very aptly. A vegan lifestyle includes not just the food that's consumed, but also the clothing that's worn. It includes animals as entertainment, it considers the animals that are abused for the sake of the latest body wash, etc. Vegans also acknowledge that there are always going to be collateral animal deaths in harvesting plant foods for consumption, but they are not deliberate deaths as are the 10 billion animals that are raised and killed in the US every year. So on top of the deliberate deaths of all those food animals, you can add in the collateral deaths that result from the harvesting of the millions of acres needed to raise food for all those animals.


Studies have also been done that show a vegan diet to be more sustainable environmentally than a meat inclusive diet.

"...Both the meat-based average American diet and the lactoovovegetarian diet require significant quantities of nonrenewable fossil energy to produce. Thus, both food systems are not sustainable in the long term based on heavy fossil energy requirements. However, the meat-based diet requires more energy, land, and water resources than the lactoovovegetarian diet. In this limited sense, the lactoovovegetarian diet is more sustainable than the average American meat-based diet."http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/78/3/660S.long

The approximate total number of acres used to produce animals and their food in America is around 1200 million acres. Compare that to about 3 million acres used to produce plants for direct human consumption. Range and pasture land 788 million acres, 227 million acres to grow corn and soy to feed animals, forest/grazing 245 million acres. http://www.westernwatersheds.org/watmess/watmess_2002/2002html_summer/article6.htm

So no matter how you look at it, the vegan diet causes less harm for both plants and animals ,even philosophically than a meat inclusive one. If the concern truly was for the 'poor plants', then at the very least, the meat inclusive diet is definitely worse as there are 1200,000,000 acres of plants suffering exclusively for the sake of a meat inclusive diet.


 
I talk and whisper to my plants, especially to my orchids. They live a long time for me, I guess they like what I have to say. :). Tonight I will have to reassure them that I am not going to eat them. lol
 
The problem with a vegan lifestyle, at least as I've come to understand it, is that unless you are very knowledgeable about vegan food it is difficult to almost impossible to ingest enough correct proteins to remain healthy. Yes, you can eat beans until you become your own wind-energy source, but it isn't a balanced source.

Just about every true vegan that I've met in over 50 years has looked like a skeleton - that cannot be any healthier than a carnivore looking like a pregnant water buffalo. The ones that look "normal" are usually not true vegans.

Plus, our teeth are a big hint that we are meant to consume meat ... we have more than just molars ...
 
My strength is my compassion

Wonderful article/video

http://www.freefromharm.org/health-nutrition/patrik-baboumian-strength-is-compassion

NB: The weight he lifted and carried to break the world record was equivalent to 22 sacks of potatoes - or a large horse.

No meat, no poultry, no fish, no eggs, no dairy.... Just plant food.

There's nothing 'magic' about meat. Protein is protein. There's plenty of complete protein in plant food, and if you know what you're doing, there's no problem.

And

http://ww.greatveganathletes.com
 
I tried the veggie thing, but got sick. I need a balanced diet myself. I couldn't eat enough veggies, then of course I worried about all the chemicals. I know there is chemicals in everything now, unless you can afford to eat organic all the time. At my age, I think I am not going to worry about it anymore. My mom lived to be 94 years old and she ate everything she felt like eating and the only thing she ever had wrong with her was high blood pressure and it was kept at bay with her medication.

When I went back on meat, I found I had much more energy. I felt better all over. This is a great thread, very interesting to hear all the different views.
 
I'm not prejudice as some of you seem to be. I eat meat, fruit, leaves, roots, tubers, grains, nuts, eggs, and berries. Variety is the key to good health.
 

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