It's quite simple. Someone who was arrested & charged with multiple felonies (16, if I remember correctly), & all charges dropped.
Police arrest Deputy who did nothing to mitigate Parkland School shooting
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It's quite simple. Someone who was arrested & charged with multiple felonies (16, if I remember correctly), & all charges dropped.
Trade
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That's quite a stretch dude. Makes me wonder what your real motivation is in bringing this up.
C'est Moi
Dishin' it out.
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Right. Because not cooking enough burgers in advance for the lunch rush at Mickey D's is the same as not responding to an active shooter at a school.
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Exactly.
Trade
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Last time I was at the grocery store they were out of cucumbers. I guess the produce manager dropped the ball on that one. But a cop not responding to an active shooter is no worse than, right?
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Dishin' it out.
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Maybe if the cop was an illegal alien you'd cut him some slack. You seem to have plenty of empathy for some groups but not for some random police officer who made a MISTAKE. I suppose you've never made a mistake so you wouldn't know how that feels.
And, I'm out.
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A couple of weeks ago I picked up some paper towels at the grocery store and when I got home I found they were the "full sized" ones instead of the "pick a size" ones that I had intended to buy. That was a mistake. Scot Peterson deliberately hid behind a building because he didn't want to risk his ass trying to save the kids he had been hired to protect. That ain't no mistake.
Aw, c'mon. Just when it was gettin' good?
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You're correct. NO police officer is required to even risk his life (contrary to what most people believe). During the L.A. riots that followed the verdict in the Rodney King beating, you may remember a truck driver named Reginald Denny. After police left the area because they considered it too risky to stay there, rioters were pulling people from their vehicles & beating them. The truck driver was nearly killed; he suffered permanent brain damage. Several victims sued the police department. They were unsuccessful because it was ruled that "Police have NO duty to protect anyone."
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rgp
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I remember it all too well......[scenario] Let's say an officer [a few officers] would have stayed in the area....and they witnessed the street thugs pulling drivers from their cars. Upon seeing this, they open fire....killing the thugs, and saving the drivers. You can bet there would have been those that would have wanted the officers charged.....Then & now.
Again, there is an underlying current in this country to protect the criminal and shame/punish the police. I don't get it?!
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Post it ?
Never mind , found it.....
The Call of Honor
All enlisted members of the Pennsylvania State Police are required to memorize the Pennsylvania State Police Call of Honor as listed below:
I am a Pennsylvania State Trooper, a soldier of the law.To me is entrusted the honor of the force
I must serve honestly, faithfully, and if need be, lay down my life as others have done before me, rather than swerve from the path of duty.
It is my duty to obey the law and to enforce it without any consideration of class, color, creed or condition.
It is also my duty to be of service to anyone who may be in danger or distress, and at all times so conduct myself that the honor of the force may be upheld.
I must serve honestly, faithfully, and if need be, lay down my life as others have done before me, rather than swerve from the path of duty.
It is my duty to obey the law and to enforce it without any consideration of class, color, creed or condition.
It is also my duty to be of service to anyone who may be in danger or distress, and at all times so conduct myself that the honor of the force may be upheld.
"Call to honor"......required to memorize , were you all sworn to it? Did you sign something saying you would in all cases uphold it?
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rgp
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911....
You are the perfect guy to put this question too.
Put yourself in officer Peterson's shoes. Your about 50, about to retire, collect your pension. About to live life peacefully , live the good life....for hopefully many years.
You hear the auto/semi-auto...gunfire, your're not really sure of just where it is coming from, or how many weapons being fired......Just how quickly would you rush in? With only your side arm?
Wrong decision and you're dead , your wife collects half of [or at least a lesser amount] of your pension, and lives alone and with the grief few can imagine for the rest of her life. You never see your grandkids grow , etc, etc.......How quickly ? would you make yourself his target?
BTW...How long was it before back-up arrived? And how long before [they] rushed in?
You are the perfect guy to put this question too.
Put yourself in officer Peterson's shoes. Your about 50, about to retire, collect your pension. About to live life peacefully , live the good life....for hopefully many years.
You hear the auto/semi-auto...gunfire, your're not really sure of just where it is coming from, or how many weapons being fired......Just how quickly would you rush in? With only your side arm?
Wrong decision and you're dead , your wife collects half of [or at least a lesser amount] of your pension, and lives alone and with the grief few can imagine for the rest of her life. You never see your grandkids grow , etc, etc.......How quickly ? would you make yourself his target?
BTW...How long was it before back-up arrived? And how long before [they] rushed in?
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OK, so I don’t mean to shirk your question, however, Mr. Peterson and I have different jobs and different duties. As a PA state Trooper, I could have retired after 25 years of service. Having become a Trooper at the age of 26, I was eligible for retirement at 51, which I chose not to retire.
It has been my experience dealing with other police departments that when an officer gets to about within five years of retirement, their assignments are based on the amount of risk involvement. Some officers will accept a desk job, while others will continue in the line of duty and face the day to day risks that the job involves. Others may choose a job somewhere in between like maybe being in charge of the evidence room.
It’s really difficult for me to criticize this officer without hearing him tell us what was going through his mind at the time. Did he believe the shooter to be outside and if he did, what was he basing it on. Maybe he should be polygraphed. Although they have not been proven to be 100% reliable, they are a good indicator when the right polygrapher is giving the exam.
At the very least, I think we can all agree that given the scope of this shooting, Mr. Peterson probably did not do all that he could do, not to prevent the shootings, but maybe to lessen the number of deaths. It is every Officer’s and Trooper’s responsibility to immediately seek out the shooter and if his or her only choice is to put his or herself between the shooter and their target, to become the line of defense. It’s a selfless job that all law enforcement officers have taken some type of oath to stand by. Like we all say in any work that we do, “It’s just part of the job.”
Being a Trooper, I have been shot at twice, but not hit. Looking down the barrel of a .357 or a 12 gauge shotgun is not the time to decide that I should have been a fireman. And finally, just like in the latest movie of the “Untouchables” that Sean Connery said, “At the end of the day, it’s every cops job to be able to go home to his family. Here endeth the lesson.” (I may have misquoted Mr. Connery, but you get my drift.)
It has been my experience dealing with other police departments that when an officer gets to about within five years of retirement, their assignments are based on the amount of risk involvement. Some officers will accept a desk job, while others will continue in the line of duty and face the day to day risks that the job involves. Others may choose a job somewhere in between like maybe being in charge of the evidence room.
It’s really difficult for me to criticize this officer without hearing him tell us what was going through his mind at the time. Did he believe the shooter to be outside and if he did, what was he basing it on. Maybe he should be polygraphed. Although they have not been proven to be 100% reliable, they are a good indicator when the right polygrapher is giving the exam.
At the very least, I think we can all agree that given the scope of this shooting, Mr. Peterson probably did not do all that he could do, not to prevent the shootings, but maybe to lessen the number of deaths. It is every Officer’s and Trooper’s responsibility to immediately seek out the shooter and if his or her only choice is to put his or herself between the shooter and their target, to become the line of defense. It’s a selfless job that all law enforcement officers have taken some type of oath to stand by. Like we all say in any work that we do, “It’s just part of the job.”
Being a Trooper, I have been shot at twice, but not hit. Looking down the barrel of a .357 or a 12 gauge shotgun is not the time to decide that I should have been a fireman. And finally, just like in the latest movie of the “Untouchables” that Sean Connery said, “At the end of the day, it’s every cops job to be able to go home to his family. Here endeth the lesson.” (I may have misquoted Mr. Connery, but you get my drift.)
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That's why i said it was a scenario....but also it is not out of the question.
Point being, if officers would have shot them.....in all likely-hood there would have been a public outcry.