President Putin delivers nuclear warning to the West over Ukraine

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"MOSCOW: President Vladimir Putin on Tuesday delivered a nuclear warning to the West over Ukraine, suspending a bilateral nuclear arms control treaty, announcing new strategic systems had been put on combat duty and warning that Moscow could resume nuclear tests.

Speaking nearly a year to the day since ordering an invasion that has triggered the biggest confrontation with the West since the depths of the Cold War, Putin said Russia would achieve its war aims and accused the West of trying to destroy Russia.


“The elites of the West do not hide their purpose. But they also cannot fail to realize that it is impossible to defeat Russia on the battlefield,” a defiant Putin told his country’s political and military elite.

Cautioning the United States that it was stoking the war into a global conflict, Putin said that Russia was suspending participation in the New START Treaty, the last major arms control treaty between Moscow and Washington.

It limits the number of nuclear warheads the world’s two biggest nuclear powers can deploy and is due to expire in 2026.

“I am forced to announce today that Russia is suspending its participation in the Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty,” said Putin.

The Russian leader said that some people in Washington were thinking about resuming nuclear testing. Russia’s defense ministry and nuclear corporation should therefore be ready to test Russian nuclear weapons if necessary, he said.

“Of course, we will not do this first. But if the United States conducts tests, then we will. No one should have dangerous illusions that global strategic parity can be destroyed,” Putin said.

“A week ago, I signed a decree on putting new ground-based strategic systems on combat duty. Are they going to stick their nose in there too, or what?”

It was not immediately clear which ground-based systems had been put on combat duty. Putin said Ukraine had sought to strike a facility deep inside Russia where some of its nuclear bombers are based, a reference to the Engels air base.

Russia and the United States have vast arsenals of nuclear weapons left over from the Cold War and remain, by far, the biggest nuclear powers. Between them, they hold 90% of the world’s nuclear warheads.

The New START Treaty limited both sides to 1,550 warheads on deployed intercontinental ballistic missiles, submarine ballistic missiles and heavy bombers. Both sides met the central limits by 2018.

Kremlin warning

In essence, Putin is warning that he can dismantle the architecture of nuclear arms control – including the big powers’ moratorium on nuclear testing – in an attempt to get the West to back off in Ukraine.

After the United States dropped nuclear bombs on the Japanese cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki in 1945, other powers sought to develop their own nuclear weapons and over 2,000 tests were conducted during the Cold War.

But since the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991, only a few countries have tested nuclear weapons, according to the Arms Control Association: The United States last in 1992, China last in 1996, India in 1998 and North Korea last in 2017."


https://mmnews.tv/president-putin-delivers-nuclear-warning-to-the-west-over-ukraine/
 

No way am I defending the actions of Putin, but I do understand why he felt threatened by the encroaching Liberal ideology. However, invasion and genocide is not the way to tackle it.
The other Western countries need to be very careful about what they do when the Russians are defeated. A military presence in Ukraine, right next-door to Russia is not going to help anyone feel secure.
 
"MOSCOW: President Vladimir Putin on Tuesday delivered a nuclear warning to the West over Ukraine, suspending a bilateral nuclear arms control treaty, announcing new strategic systems had been put on combat duty and warning that Moscow could resume nuclear tests.

Speaking nearly a year to the day since ordering an invasion that has triggered the biggest confrontation with the West since the depths of the Cold War, Putin said Russia would achieve its war aims and accused the West of trying to destroy Russia.


“The elites of the West do not hide their purpose. But they also cannot fail to realize that it is impossible to defeat Russia on the battlefield,” a defiant Putin told his country’s political and military elite.

Cautioning the United States that it was stoking the war into a global conflict, Putin said that Russia was suspending participation in the New START Treaty, the last major arms control treaty between Moscow and Washington.

It limits the number of nuclear warheads the world’s two biggest nuclear powers can deploy and is due to expire in 2026.

“I am forced to announce today that Russia is suspending its participation in the Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty,” said Putin.

The Russian leader said that some people in Washington were thinking about resuming nuclear testing. Russia’s defense ministry and nuclear corporation should therefore be ready to test Russian nuclear weapons if necessary, he said.

“Of course, we will not do this first. But if the United States conducts tests, then we will. No one should have dangerous illusions that global strategic parity can be destroyed,” Putin said.

“A week ago, I signed a decree on putting new ground-based strategic systems on combat duty. Are they going to stick their nose in there too, or what?”

It was not immediately clear which ground-based systems had been put on combat duty. Putin said Ukraine had sought to strike a facility deep inside Russia where some of its nuclear bombers are based, a reference to the Engels air base.

Russia and the United States have vast arsenals of nuclear weapons left over from the Cold War and remain, by far, the biggest nuclear powers. Between them, they hold 90% of the world’s nuclear warheads.

The New START Treaty limited both sides to 1,550 warheads on deployed intercontinental ballistic missiles, submarine ballistic missiles and heavy bombers. Both sides met the central limits by 2018.

Kremlin warning

In essence, Putin is warning that he can dismantle the architecture of nuclear arms control – including the big powers’ moratorium on nuclear testing – in an attempt to get the West to back off in Ukraine.

After the United States dropped nuclear bombs on the Japanese cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki in 1945, other powers sought to develop their own nuclear weapons and over 2,000 tests were conducted during the Cold War.

But since the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991, only a few countries have tested nuclear weapons, according to the Arms Control Association: The United States last in 1992, China last in 1996, India in 1998 and North Korea last in 2017."


https://mmnews.tv/president-putin-delivers-nuclear-warning-to-the-west-over-ukraine/
He certainly has stamina - two hour speech!
I felt truly chilled as I listened to his rant. I observed the audience, at their faces and eyes. It was clear to me that they know he is a madman. I think his people are not behind him, he doesn't have the spirit and heart of his people. This means he cannot win.
 
He certainly has stamina - two hour speech!
I felt truly chilled as I listened to his rant. I observed the audience, at their faces and eyes. It was clear to me that they know he is a madman. I think his people are not behind him, he doesn't have the spirit and heart of his people. This means he cannot win.
I guess when you get to the point that you are kidnapping people in bars and forcing them to be soldiers.....well you are coming to the limits of sanity!
 
The Russian people are going to have to stand up for themselves & against him if they ever want to have change for the good. No other country can go in their & remove him for them. Whenever that happens, it seems the problem gets worse with the next one in charge.

I just wonder if they have been oppressed for so long many generations, modern day serfdom, that they no longer know how to.
 
He hasn't said he's thinking about starting a nuclear war, outside of threatening to use tactical nukes in the Ukraine, but he seems bent on "implying" that he's thinking about a big one. I haven't decided if he's nuts. My first guess is he just wants to sound ominous, but I'm not sure it's having much effect. Oh sure, he's making the news, but does he think the west is going to give him the Ukraine to avoid WW III? I don't think the West can give him the Ukraine. He would just move on to his next target, and we would be in a never ending process of making concessions. I think he's just testing the waters. And why not? It requires no investment, and nothing happens to him unless he starts a big one, and then he's dead like everyone else. He's starting to bore me.
 
This conflict is increasingly becoming the prelude to WWIII. The US and NATO are supplying vast amounts of weaponry to Ukraine, and now it is rumored that the Chinese may be willing to supply weapons to Russia. The longer this continues, and the more that other nations become involved, the greater the chances of this getting completely out of control.
 
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Does that treaty have a nuke testing ban because if it did and Russia ignores it the fallout from testing could wreek alot of havoc on it's own. It's not just about a nuclear exchange or battle.
 
I just wonder if they have been oppressed for so long many generations, modern day serfdom, that they no longer know how to.
Yes.

Russian citizens old enough to remember when life under Socialism improved and actually worked for a while (in the mid-80s) are loyal to Putin and socialist ideals. They experienced relief from decades of incredible hardship, and were convinced (by propaganda) that things got better because socialism does work - you just have to invest a lot of blood, sweat, and tears.

Russia's youth did not have the same experience, so their loyalty runs hot and cold depending on how inconvenience socialism gets at any given time.

Russian people, mostly young, have publicly protested the invasion of Ukraine. They've thrown Molotov cocktails through the windows of some military recruitment offices, set fire to police vehicles, and organized marches, and, surprisingly, there have been relatively few arrests, like dozens instead of potentially thousands.

Protests weren't officially illegal in Russia until late last year, but they were discouraged through fear and threats. People caught protesting risked being arrested for some random, unrelated offense or trumped-up charge that would land them in prison.

But now protests of any kind are officially illegal in Russia with a sentence of 10 years in prison, minimum.
 
Yes.

Russian citizens old enough to remember when life under Socialism improved and actually worked for a while (in the mid-80s) are loyal to Putin and socialist ideals. They experienced relief from decades of incredible hardship, and were convinced (by propaganda) that things got better because socialism does work - you just have to invest a lot of blood, sweat, and tears.

Russia's youth did not have the same experience, so their loyalty runs hot and cold depending on how inconvenience socialism gets at any given time.

Russian people, mostly young, have publicly protested the invasion of Ukraine. They've thrown Molotov cocktails through the windows of some military recruitment offices, set fire to police vehicles, and organized marches, and, surprisingly, there have been relatively few arrests, like dozens instead of potentially thousands.

Protests weren't officially illegal in Russia until late last year, but they were discouraged through fear and threats. People caught protesting risked being arrested for some random, unrelated offense or trumped-up charge that would land them in prison.

But now protests of any kind are officially illegal in Russia with a sentence of 10 years in prison, minimum.
You're right. We visited St. Petersburg in 2010. Our tour guide, an older woman, didn't hide her opinion that she had a better life under Socialism. The young people, not so much. It is the young people in every country that have the ability to affect change.
 
Nuclear arms are a negotiation tactic.

The fear is the thing that makes them an important item in international negotiations.

The truth is, nobody actually wants to use them because then the world's nations will see their limitations and the fear will subside.

The bombs dropped on Japan did not do more damage than the fire bombing during WW2. It just took fewer bombs to destroy the buildings.

Nobody wants to deal with the radiation poisoning that would render areas unapproachable.

It's been 78 years since Japan and nobody's ever used the bombs again. That should tell you something.
 
Russia is paying the price for their actions. Economic sanctions are killing their economy.

On June 27, 2022 Russia defaulted on part of its foreign currency, its first such default since 1918.

In November 2022 it was reported that Russia had officially entered a recession as the Federal State Statistics Service had reported a national GDP loss for the second consecutive quarter.
 
Yes.

Russian citizens old enough to remember when life under Socialism improved and actually worked for a while (in the mid-80s) are loyal to Putin and socialist ideals. They experienced relief from decades of incredible hardship, and were convinced (by propaganda) that things got better because socialism does work - you just have to invest a lot of blood, sweat, and tears.

Russia's youth did not have the same experience, so their loyalty runs hot and cold depending on how inconvenience socialism gets at any given time.

Russian people, mostly young, have publicly protested the invasion of Ukraine. They've thrown Molotov cocktails through the windows of some military recruitment offices, set fire to police vehicles, and organized marches, and, surprisingly, there have been relatively few arrests, like dozens instead of potentially thousands.

Protests weren't officially illegal in Russia until late last year, but they were discouraged through fear and threats. People caught protesting risked being arrested for some random, unrelated offense or trumped-up charge that would land them in prison.

But now protests of any kind are officially illegal in Russia with a sentence of 10 years in prison, minimum.

I think they made it illegal after that lady protested on live Russian TV.
 
I listened to Putin's speech by watching a live stream by a guy who speaks Russian; as Putin spoke, the guy interpreted.

Putin did not threaten the west with Nuclear weapons at all. He promised his Russian audience that he would invest more in military spending, including updating his nuclear arsenal and nuclear technology.

But he also admitted Russia is woefully low on nuclear scientists, so he also promised a new educational system that will be a return to soviet days - 4 and 5yr-olds will be selected for a future in science, physics and/or technology, and the gov't will put them through a program of intense, focused education from kindergarten to university.

In fact, most of Putin's speech was about returning to the old soviet ways....except for the parts that were about the evils of the west.

He did say he will not abide by any arms agreements with the west, but he never has anyway, so....
 

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