Prince Andrew sued by accuser (Epstein scandal)

[Lewkat]

Let them subpoena Maxwell too. He brother was furious that Giuffre wasn't called to the stand in Maxwell's trial. She's certainly vocal enough about her and Epstein. Andrew's trial will be a circus, as this woman hasn't come before American Lawyers who have been schooled at the Inns of Court in the UK. I know I wouldn't want to.

 

[fuzzybuddy]

I haven't followed this case as closely as others in this forum. But what I've noticed is how Andrew went from adored Royal Prince to scuzball. As image conscience as the Royal Family is, I'm amazed at how badly Andrew managed his image. Hundreds of years from now, tour guides will refer to his grave as "This is where Randy Andy is buried".

 

[Alligatorob]

Scotland Yard has dropped any investigation into accusations against Prince Andrew of sexual assault...

This is interesting I assume it is because they see no prosecutable case...

If so that could be the result of not seeing sufficient evidence of wrong doing, or things like statue of limitation. I know they will not say why, but it would be interesting to know.

I see this is an older post, I am just catching up.

 

[Nosy Bee-54]

"Now that the case is proceeding along the usual steps of Federal court procedure, the next major event will be a deposition of Prince Andrew, under oath and taking questions from David Boies, who has been called, “the Michelangelo of deposition-taking.”

“Well, we’re looking forward to confronting Prince Andrew with his denials and attempts to blame Ms Giuffre for his own abuse, both at the deposition and the trial,”

“But an unfortunate fact for him is that if you say these things when you’re filing papers, it becomes really hard to sustain that under cross-examination. And when you can’t sustain those broad denials, you’re not just back to ground zero, you’re behind, because you’ve lost your credibility,” Boies told The Telegraph."

http://yonkerstimes.com/sex-abuse-l...her-says-americas-great-attorney-david-boies/

"The lawyer representing Prince Andrew’s accuser Virginia Roberts is set to quiz the Duke of York in London for up to two days – but says he will not require evidence from his former wife, daughters or the Queen.

David Boies, 80, one of America’s most renowned attorneys, yesterday suggested Andrew will find the experience of being questioned under oath ‘a little uncomfortable’ – but held out the possibility that a financial deal could be done.

Mr Boies is preparing to fly to Britain later this year to take a legal deposition from the Duke, which he expects to last ‘a day, or probably two’.

‘I’m going to try to get him to understand that this is not going to be combative,’ he told The Daily Telegraph. ‘Obviously, I’m going to ask him a lot of questions.

‘And although some of the questions may be uncomfortable, I’m not going to be aggressive or in any way offensive to him. I’m going to be respectful.’

Andrew’s deposition must be taken before a July 14 deadline set by the judge. Should the case go to court, Mr Boies said he ‘doesn’t think we would need’ Andrew’s ex-wife Sarah, the Duchess of York, or his daughters, Princess Beatrice and Princess Eugenie, to testify."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10455593/Prince-Andrew-quizzed-London.html

 

[Lewkat]

America's great lawyer and the Michaelangleo of deposition takers? Never heard of him until this case came along. They are touting the picture of Andrew and a girl with Maxwell in it. It may have just been a photo-op and nothing more, and why would Andrew remember some teenager who had a crush on him over 20 years ago. They have the preponderance of proving he was ever in a bedroom alone with her. 2 days of deposing Andrew. His lawyers will have something to say about that.

 

[hollydolly]

America's great lawyer and the Michaelangleo of deposition takers? Never heard of him until this case came along. They are touting the picture of Andrew and a girl with Maxwell in it. It may have just been a photo-op and nothing more, and why would Andrew remember some teenager who had a crush on him over 20 years ago. They have the preponderance of proving he was ever in a bedroom alone with her. 2 days of deposing Andrew. His lawyers will have something to say about that.

it was a photo of Andrew taken in the upstairs hallway of Maxwells' London House.. where the girl had been brought from New York for the use of PA.. there's also a photo somewhere with PA dancing with the girl in a London Nightclub with Epstein and Maxwell there as well

 

[Lewkat]

So, it seems as though he was never alone with her.

 

[Alligatorob]

the Michaelangleo of deposition takers?

Never heard of him either, but I do know there is a real art to being a good deposition taker. In my work I served as an expert witness many times, and got deposed many times. It can be a very uncomfortable process... much worse than actually testifying and being cross-examined.

So, it seems as though he was never alone with her

No pictures of it anyway.

 

[rgp]

So, it seems as though he was never alone with her.

If that's true ? It will be a hard case to prove . As I have said in the past ....... without hard evidence , if I were on the jury I could not vote guilty. We cannot start convicting on accusation alone, that is a slippery slope for everyone.

 

[Alligatorob]

without hard evidence , if I were on the jury I could not vote guilty

I am hopeful that is the way it will go. If found guilty that's fine and fair, if real hard evidence is presented. If not, not guilty.

 

[Jules]

David Boies, 80, one of America’s most renowned attorneys, yesterday suggested Andrew will find the experience of being questioned under oath ‘a little uncomfortable’ – but held out the possibility that a financial deal could be done.

Bottom line, it’s all about the money. How much will it need to be to make all these high powered lawyers richer?

 

[Jeni]

it was a photo of Andrew taken in the upstairs hallway of Maxwells' London House.. where the girl had been brought from New York for the use of PA.. there's also a photo somewhere with PA dancing with the girl in a London Nightclub with Epstein and Maxwell there as well

So these girls left the US and would have had to have a passport. under 16 needs a parent present and 17 has to provide proof parent is aware of applying for passport.
So this makes we more curious as to where were the parents/ or what did they think was happening with their daughter.
I can not imagine letting my child travel with people I did not know........ without a parental escort etc.

 

[hollydolly]

So these girls left the US and would have had to have a passport. under 16 needs a parent present and 17 has to provide proof parent is aware of applying for passport.
So this makes we more curious as to where were the parents/ or what did they think was happening with their daughter.
I can not imagine letting my child travel with people I did not know........ without a parental escort etc.

apparently all of these girls were from dysfunctional homes.. this is what made them an easy target for Maxwell when she was recruiting youngsters, dangling green backs in front of their faces..

 

[Pepper]

So this makes we more curious as to where were the parents/ or what did they think was happening with their daughter.
I can not imagine letting my child travel with people I did not know........ without a parental escort etc.

Thinking that probably the parents were introduced to Epstein/Maxwell and that the parents were utterly charmed by them and considered it a great opportunity for their girls.

 

[Alligatorob]

Bottom line, it’s all about the money

Pretty much...

 

[Nosy Bee-54]

No settlement yet. Case proceeding quickly. I guess Andrew's current legal team will do a better job preparing him this time than when he sat down with BBC. To sweat or not to sweat!

"Prince Andrew has agreed to a deposition date of March 10 in connection with the civil lawsuit filed against him by Virginia Roberts Giuffre, according to an attorney for Giuffre and a source close to the prince.

Sigrid McCawley, a partner at Boies Schiller Flexner, the firm that represents Giuffre, on Saturday confirmed to ABC News that the date has been set. The news of the agreed-upon date was first reported by The Telegraph."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crim...eposed-in-civil-lawsuit/ar-AATvIyq?li=BBnbcA1

"The Prince is being prepared by his UK-based legal team as he prepares to face a grilling over the span of two days by David Boies, 80, one of America's most renowned attorneys, and Sigrid McCawley."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-Roberts-lawyers-London-deposition-March.html

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-f...ew-deposed-virginia-roberts-giuffres-lawyers/

 

[Shalimar]

Thinking that probably the parents were introduced to Epstein/Maxwell and that the parents were utterly charmed by them and considered it a great opportunity for their girls.

Classic predator mo. You are likely right.

 

[ohioboy]

He is asking for Judicial assistance pursuant to the Hague Convention!

https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/41326903/Giuffre_v_Prince_Andrew

 

[Butterfly]

If that's true ? It will be a hard case to prove . As I have said in the past ....... without hard evidence , if I were on the jury I could not vote guilty. We cannot start convicting on accusation alone, that is a slippery slope for everyone.

This is a civil case. There is no guilty or not guilty or convicting. It's all about money.

 

[ohioboy]

This is a civil case. There is no guilty or not guilty or convicting. It's all about money.

Right, a Civil Jury verdict form is basically a √ mark Q&A of questions as to liability, etc.

 

[terry123]

Never heard of him either, but I do know there is a real art to being a good deposition taker. In my work I served as an expert witness many times, and got deposed many times. It can be a very uncomfortable process... much worse than actually testifying and being cross-examined.


No pictures of it anyway.

Never know what goes on behind closed doors. Would not be surprised if he was with her.