gruntlabor
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... I don't have to agree with any nor am afraid to say so.
... I don't have to agree with any nor am afraid to say so.
Call him/her what you like still God and can motivate a church and lead the way to Galileo ; Newton and Darwin - I think you will find that Darwin not professed to being an aetheist?
Christians have lots of questions. The Bible doesn't have all the answers and that's on purpose. We are told to "study to show ourselves approved". God wants us to search for the answers not only in the Bible but all around us, including science (God created "science" so to speak...he created everything and people have studied it. It just wasn't called "science" in the Bible). As we search for answers we grow closer to God and grow to trust God and therefore grow to have have faith in things unseen.With no factual response, it comes down to blind faith works for those that don't question.
Started new thread What do you believe spiritually or non-spiritually? Why do you believe this way?Just ate a frozen spaghetti dinner here in this $60 2-star South Lake Tahoe inn and about to enjoy a long hot shower.
None of the 5 questions the OP asked were asked towards this person so as with other threads so, won't participate in responses beyond offering terse summary comments I won't be dragged into expanded discussion about.
People are free to offer opinions and ideas, but I don't have to agree with any nor am afraid to say so.
As I remember Darwin's wife was very devout and one of their children had serious health issues. This, and his insights into biology, led Darwin to doubt the religious teaching of his time.Call him/her what you like still God and can motivate a church and lead the way to Galileo ; Newton and Darwin - I think you will find that Darwin not professed to being an aetheist?
As I remember Darwin's wife was very devout and one of their children had serious health issues. This, and his insights into biology, led Darwin to doubt the religious teaching of his time.
People are free to offer opinions and ideas, but I don't have to agree with any nor am afraid to say so.
I am lack the information to decisively conclude the existence or non-existence of a figure or image with or without supernatural attributes known as god or the God.
I do not know if heaven or hell exists as a refuge to be divided between the believers and nonbelievers.
To begin with I was the oldest son of a Southern Baptist preacher who ironically did not speak of god, salvation or Jesus at home. He was a big shot in most of the communities we lived in but as far as any presence at home he abandoned all parental responsibilities.
First I questioned the validity of faith based godly worship, came to terms that faith is essentially an active imagination; the more you feed the idea the greater commitment you will have toward it. To discount Christianity I had to refute the bible killing two birds with one stone. There are a lot of questions I have about god, the world and humanity, oh year, aliens as well.
All in all, it is my lack being or UnBeing that leads to my disatisfaction and desire for the destination.
I say I don’t fear death, perhaps my circumstances are different than most, at any rate I have longed for life as I know it to end since the beginning. I am a responsible citizen, I have not caused too much trouble during my time here, but the day or night will come when breathing will not be a requirement.
Since I am not an Atheist, I won't begin to answer this question.
Further, I feel everyone, beliefs are very personal and need be discussed in open forums.
Since I am not an Atheist, I won't begin to answer this question.
Further, I feel everyone, beliefs are very personal and need be discussed in open forums.
No, they needn't be discussed --maybe they shouldn't be, but for me it is pleasant to discuss them, or anything for that matter as I live alone and miss stimulating conversation. That is one reason why I enjoy this forum.
I've posted my religious views and why in summary detail on this board a few times in the past that any can search to read. I'm not going to repost every time similar threads start or someone new wants to know.Started new thread What do you believe spiritually or non-spiritually? Why do you believe this way?
Yes, but Christ instructed his followers to spread the word. They're only trying to do their job.I have a negative reaction to people who preach, convert, belittle, dominate, and push their beliefs on others. If people believe that strongly they need to keep it to themselves, not try and convert others. I think the parts in the holy books about being the only way, or to kill your enemies type of rhetoric is man made. It is not God speaking. People need to realize this, and accept it, so they can stop using that rhetoric. One way or the other, none of us are getting out of this alive. I feel like helping others realize the kind of life they can imagine for themselves. Even if it is not religious, or even "spiritual".
Isn't there some parable about the "word" being like planting seeds. Some fall on shallow, rocky ground and don't grow, some fall on adequate soil and grow ok, and then some fall on fertile soil and blossom into mature plants? That leaves the person out of forcing the issue, right?Yes, but Christ instructed his followers to spread the word. They're only trying to do their job.
Matthew 28: 19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost...
Mark 4:14-20:Isn't there some parable about the "word" being like planting seeds. Some fall on shallow, rocky ground and don't grow, some fall on adequate soil and grow ok, and then some fall on fertile soil and blossom into mature plants? That leaves the person out of forcing the issue, right?
Yes, but Christ instructed his followers to spread the word. They're only trying to do their job.
Matthew 28: 19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost...
I have trouble with charging christians to teach all nations, baptizing them etc, etc because christianity is flawed as are christians who consider their great commission to change native Americans, Chinese etc, to be like them and loose traces of their natural heritage. That’s what religion does put everyone in a box for increased control and conformity.Yes, but Christ instructed his followers to spread the word. They're only trying to do their job.
Matthew 28: 19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost...
I have trouble with charging christians to teach all nations, baptizing them etc, etc because christianity is flawed as are christians who consider their great commission to change native Americans, Chinese etc, to be like them and loose traces of their natural heritage. That’s what religion does put everyone in a box for increased control and conformity.