Riots and Looting

rgp said:
I have done all that since I was 21 years old [50 yrs now].......Nothing has changed.
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It's very frustrating.

IMO young people have more opportunities today than we ever had to obtain low cost or free education/training that would eventually translate into a solidly middle-class income.

The thing that seems to be missing is our ability to get young people to take the long view and honestly believe that life will get better if they work within the system and climb the ladder one rung at a time.
 

Don M. said:
As could be almost expected, Minneapolis is experiencing riots and looting in the aftermath of this police related death a couple of days ago. It's bad enough that the police have to be involved in such an incident, but the Idiot people who engage in this criminal activity as their warped idea of "protest", will only make things much worse for the residents of that area.
This is quite the same as what happened in Ferguson, MO., a few years ago, when a similar situation led to days of rioting, burning and looting. We were in St. Louis, a couple of years ago, and on a whim, drove through Ferguson. There was still visible damage of empty damaged buildings, and a drastic absence of any commercial consumer stores. The ultimate damage of this kind of stupidity falls on the shoulders of the decent people in such a region....as they no longer have stores, etc., nearby, and their lifestyles have suffered as a result.
Protest might be justified in such an incident, but when it deteriorates into this kind of chaos, it's pretty hard to have much sympathy for those who participate, IMO.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/protests-looting-erupt-again-minneapolis-203508355.html
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I seriously doubt if Target or any of the other stores will rebuild in that area. I have known insurance companies to forewarn companies that plan to build in neighborhoods where riots have been known to happen, refuse to insure buildings and and/or property. More than likely, it will become an area for a parking lot or garage.
 
There is a website which has stats on "killed by cops". And some of the numbers we already sort of know. Which state has the most deaths? How many of you are shocked that it's Texas. The big 3 are Texas, California, and Florida. Ca. has L.A., and NY has NYC, but NY has a fraction of the deaths than Ca. And why do the states, which surround Texas, have low numbers? There is something in the culture of the states, which accounts for their death totals. I don't know what those factors are.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2019/national/police-shootings-2019/
 
Aunt Marg said:
Just "criminal low-life", that's your answer to all of this? What about the latest case of "criminal high-life", where police officers are at the forefront and centre of? What's your remedy for that?

If your grand illusion is to solve Americas crime problems by doing away with everyday common criminals, you have to encompass both low and high life criminals, however, looking at the awe-mighty gun to accomplish the task is not the solution.
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I stand by my idea ............ what's your solution ?
 
gennie said:
More people getting involved in local elections, doing their homework/research about candidates and then actually VOTING in all the elections, especially the 'little' (local and state). A decent society is built from the ground up.
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I answered all that involving myself , above. If you think it works? then tell just how plan on enticing / forcing [whomever] to participate ?
 
fuzzybuddy said:
There is a website which has stats on "killed by cops". And some of the numbers we already sort of know. Which state has the most deaths? How many of you are shocked that it's Texas. The big 3 are Texas, California, and Florida. Ca. has L.A., and NY has NYC, but NY has a fraction of the deaths than Ca. And why do the states, which surround Texas, have low numbers? There is something in the culture of the states, which accounts for their death totals. I don't know what those factors are.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2019/national/police-shootings-2019/
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Reading horror stories about Texas cops makes me hesitant to even drive through. Not only the "killed by cops" you cite, but also the asinine 'attack' on the Austin jogger, the body cavity search of two women who were pulled over for a lane change violation and were subsequently probed on the side of the road because the trooper who pulled them over 'thought' he smelled marijuana.
 
Aunt Bea said:
It's very frustrating.

IMO young people have more opportunities today than we ever had to obtain low cost or free education/training that would eventually translate into a solidly middle-class income.

The thing that seems to be missing is our ability to get young people to take the long view and honestly believe that life will get better if they work within the system and climb the ladder one rung at a time.
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I agree, and I'll add ........

IMO some of the problem is movies,TV & social media ...... the young folks see all this success & riches displayed. And then they want it now ...... and want to acquire it in the easiest way. Far too many just do not want to work for anything anymore . Particularly work for moderate gains/success .

The HVAC guy was here just yesterday, the owner. When I commented on it he said ........ Two of his guys did not come back to work, due to their stimulus money that would be lost if they did. He said they would rather not work, and collect it, while sitting on the couch. He went on to say that they think it [stimulus money] is going to last forever ....... pretty sad.
 
gennie said:
More people getting involved in local elections, doing their homework/research about candidates and then actually VOTING in all the elections, especially the 'little' (local and state). A decent society is built from the ground up.
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We have a decent society ...... If one wants to live a decent life ? Get a job, learn to live within the means it provides , and obey the law / behave. It is an easy concept to follow, it is not rocket science.
 
C'est Moi said:
I believe you are going too far with this comment. Simpleton class? And the expression is "all-mighty."
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Okay, thanks for the mention, I'll go in and correct it right away! Can't believe no one else caught it! Excellent catch! 👍
 
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The argument about slavery and the Civil War, appalling as it all was, it is in the past and cannot be altered in any way. Why present day citizens cannot understand this is beyond me. As for the officer who is responsible for placing his knee on the victim's neck causing his demise, well said officer will get his due. As will the others who stood idly by and allowed that to happen. Rioting and looting is a savage, terrorist act perpetrated on an innocent society and this barbaric behavior does not endear these people to the public at large. Is there a solution? Of course there is. Common decency and a meeting of saner minds to resolve differences is of course the obvious course of action. Get rid of the politicians who promise the downtrodden marvelous changes if elected, and then when the election is done, voters who believed are ultimately left in the lurch. Yet, these same charlatans are elected time and time again. Ergo, it is up to the community itself to pull up its proverbial boot straps and rise out of the detritus and clean out the poseurs. Multiple negatives do not resolve one negative. Ever.
 
Saturday morning Brian Williams stated on MSNBC all of the arrest made in Minneapolis last night were people from out of state or town I don't recall which. Now it is Saturday @ 5:27 PM and police cars are being burned I see nine destroyed in Los Angeles. Getting tense. Could be a violent night there. It appears there are too many agitators (anarchists) there to start shit.
 
There seems to be protests that have turned violent in many places now including my hometown where there is a police standoff now. The governor has called out the national guard. I don't know how all this is going to end but somehow I hope the protests are heard and the violence stopped.
 
Houston: Arrests made 80% of those have no IDs. Last night before the sun went down a white woman with a black face mask covering all of the face and carrying an assault rifle was escorted quietly away from the crowd. Not one word of it was said by the person broadcasting live in the crowd. How he missed it is mind boggling. Maybe it was a toy gun. As a strong supporter of gun rights and open carry I think it is stupid for it to be legal to open carry weapons at protests or marches or whatever. It not only is threatening to others what if someone grabs a person's weapon and begins to shoot people? Common %^$&ing sense!
 
Gaer said:
It's a good thing you can't read my thoughts. I feel this is like Nazi Germany before the war, as I am muzzled. My remarks would not be in the best of taste.
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Never lose your voice.

"They came first for the Communists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me, and by that time no one was left to speak up."
German Lutheran pastor Martin Niemöller 1946
 
Ruthanne said:
There seems to be protests that have turned violent in many places now including my hometown where there is a police standoff now. The governor has called out the national guard. I don't know how all this is going to end but somehow I hope the protests are heard and the violence stopped.
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IMO .... the protest was , [in the beginning] about the use by the officer of the knee, and the duration of time it was used. A valid point indeed, and one that needed investigation. However .... again [opinion] in the ensuing riots,looting & stealing ...... the original point has been lost. And the sincerity of the original protest ..... lost with it.
 
Gardenlover said:
Never lose your voice.

"They came first for the Communists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me, and by that time no one was left to speak up."
German Lutheran pastor Martin Niemöller 1946
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Yes, but people do speak up and in the cited situations people died. Obviously no one on the forum is going to die for expressing their thoughts, but there is still a risk involved. I applaud the people who do take those risks, therefore I agree with gardenlover.
 
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