Russia attacks Ukraine as Putin warns US, NATO of ‘consequences you have never seen’

[Paco Dennis]

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"KYIV, Ukraine (AP) — Russia launched a wide-ranging attack on Ukraine on Thursday, hitting cities and bases with airstrikes or shelling, as civilians piled into trains and cars to flee. Ukraine’s government said Russian tanks and troops rolled across the border and accused Moscow of unleashing a “full-scale war” that could rewrite the geopolitical order and whose fallout already reverberated around the globe.

In announcing a major military operation, Russian President Vladimir Putin deflected global condemnation and cascading new sanctions — and chillingly referred to his country’s nuclear arsenal as he threatened any foreign country attempting to interfere with “consequences you have never seen.”

Sirens rang out in Ukraine’s capital and people massed in train stations and took to roads, as the government said the former Soviet republic was seeing a long-anticipated invasion from the east, north and south and reported more than 40 soldiers had been killed and dozens wounded."

https://www.wivb.com/news/u-s-world...-us-nato-of-consequences-you-have-never-seen/

 

[Pepper]

I worry more about the lunatic fringe of the United States who back Putin because he's a Tough Guy. Morons without one brain between them.

 

[SeaBreeze]

I worry more about the lunatic fringe of the United States who back Putin because he's a Tough Guy. Morons without one brain between them.

Yes, the enemy within, anti-American trash, ignorant thugs.

 

[Irwin]

This means more refugees fleeing to America.

 

[charry]

This means more refugees fleeing to America.

And coming here …uk

 

[Sunny]

I worry more about the lunatic fringe of the United States who back Putin because he's a Tough Guy. Morons without one brain between them.

You can bet that the lunatic fringe will manage to come down on the wrong side of this. They always do.

 

[todalake]

After the dissolution of the Soviet Union, Ukraine held about one third of the Soviet nuclear arsenal, the third largest in the world at the time, as well as significant means of its design and production.[2] 130 UR-100N intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBM) with six warheads each, 46 RT-23 Molodets ICBMs with ten warheads apiece, as well as 33 heavy bombers, totaling approximately 1,700 warheads remained on Ukrainian territory.[3] Formally, these weapons were controlled by the Commonwealth of Independent States.[4] In 1994 Ukraine agreed to destroy the weapons, and to join the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons


Why North Korea will NEVER give up nuclear arms.

 

[todalake]

Will the Ukrainian leadership stay and the army fight or will they flee and surrender like Afghan army?

 

[hollydolly]

Russian forces have seized control of Chernobyl nuclear power plant after a 'fierce' battle, with the condition of nuclear storage facilities 'unknown', sparking fears of a radiation leak that could cause fallout in Europe.

Video revealed Russian tanks and armoured vehicles standing in front of the destroyed reactor, which sits just 60 miles north of the capital Kiev.

Meanwhile Turkey reported that one of its ships had been hit by a 'bomb' off the coast of Odessa, where fighting is also going on. Turkey is a member of NATO, underlining fears that the war in Ukraine could quickly suck in other states and spark an all-out conflict in Europe.

Elsewhere, Kiev ordered civilians into bomb shelters and declared a curfew amid fears Russia is about to strike the Ukrainian capital as Kiev's troops lost control of a key airfield around 15 miles away. Russian forces had attacked it with around two dozen attack helicopters earlier in the day, four of which are thought to have been shot down.

'They are going to bomb Kyiv now. Authorities told us to hide in shelters,' a source in the city told MailOnline as authorities said a hospital had been hit, killing four people.

The Ukrainian army was this afternoon fighting in almost every region of the country, battling the Russians for control of military bases, airports, cities and ports from Kharkiv to Kiev, and Donetsk to Odessa.

 

[Nathan]

Will the Ukrainian leadership stay and the army fight or will they flee and surrender like Afghan army?

Fight the Russians? That would be suicide, the Russian invasion force will crush Ukrainian resistance.

As for the Afghan army, same as in South Vietnam...when the U.S. money stopped, so did their will to fight.

 

[Pepper]

Fight the Russians? That would be suicide, the Russian invasion force will crush Ukrainian resistance.

As for the Afghan army, same as in South Vietnam...when the U.S. money stopped, so did their will to fight.

That's because they never had it in the first place; it was all concocted by ours truly.

 

[Tish]

All I can say is Putin has lost it, he is nuts. Makes me wonder if he is dying and planning to go out with a huge bang.
Australian P.M. has already stated that we will be taking on refugees.

 

[Nosy Bee-54]

This means more refugees fleeing to America.

Is that a problem? We are an aging population so Ukrainian refugees and those crossing at the southern border would be taking up a lot of slack.

ETA: Well, we won't have to worry about too many male refugees. According to Ukrainian President Zelensky:

"In particular, it is forbidden for men aged 18-60, Ukraine citizens, to leave the borders of Ukraine," the statement said. "This regulation will remain in effect for the period of the legal regime of martial law. We ask the citizens to take this information into consideration."

 

[Islander]

Speculation is that Putin is expecting a quick victory - capture Kiev and install a new government, believing that Ukrainians will opt for peace rather than war. I think that he is forgetting the bad memories that Ukrainians have of rule under the Soviets. More likely that Ukrainians will wage a guerrilla war, betting that Russia will not be able to sustain an occupation force given Russia's weak economy.

 

[hollydolly]

Putin cracked down on Russians calling for peace tonight, with police and national guard seen dragging protesters away for showing solidarity with Ukraine and other similar demonstrations across the world.
Rarely seen protests against Russian president Vladimir Putin broke out in Moscow and Saint Petersburg, as the global outcry against the Russian strongman grew louder.

Pictures showed officers physically picking up protesters and dragging them away from the demonstrations, which are rare in the authoritarian country which does not tolerate dissent against the Kremlin.
Russian police have detained more than 1,700 people at anti-war protests across Russia after President Vladimir Putin sent troops to invade Ukraine, an independent monitor said Thursday.

Some 1,702 people in 53 Russian cities were detained, at least 940 of them in Moscow and over 340 people in the second-largest city Saint Petersburg, according to OVD-Info, which tracks arrests at opposition rallies.
Earlier, a Russian opposition activist who called for anti-war protests told Reuters that she had been detained by police.
'I was detained on my way out of the house,' Marina Litvinovich, the Moscow-based activist, wrote on Telegram. She confirmed her detention separately in a message to Reuters.

Litvinovich called on Russians earlier to gather in protest in various Russian cities on Thursday evening.
Litvinovich also said in a video statement on Facebook: 'I know that right now many of you feel desperation, helplessness, shame over Vladimir Putin's attack on the friendly nation of Ukraine. But I urge you not to despair.'
'We, the Russian people, are against the war Putin has unleashed. We don't support this war, it is being waged not on our behalf,' she added.
Earlier today, more than 150 senior Russian officials signed an open letter condemning Putin's invasion as 'an unprecedented atrocity' and warning of 'catastrophic consequences'.

The deputies said they were 'convinced' Russian citizens do not back the war and blamed Putin 'personally' for ordering troops into Ukraine in an attack 'for which there is no and cannot be justification'.
Across Europe and the rest of the world, anti-war activists took to their own streets and gathered outside Russian embassies including those in London, Berlin, Paris, Stockholm, Oslo, Riga, as well as further afield in Tokyo, making their voices heard. Sydney also saw furious protesters calling for an end to the conflict.

Demonstrations were held overnight before war was declared by Russia, and continued into Thursday as Russian tanks rolled towards Kiev. There have been reports of intense fighting and casualties on both sides.
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky on Thursday also called on Ukrainian to 'go out' and 'protest against this war', after urging Russians to do the same earlier this week in a bid to prevent the invasion.
'We have severed diplomatic relations with Russia. For all those who have not yet lost their conscience in Russia, it is time to go out and protest against the war with Ukraine,' he said today.

ST PETERSBURG: Huge crowds of people gathered to attend an anti-war protest on Thursday night, after Russian President Vladimir Putin authorised a military operation in Ukraine

 

[Ruthanne]

From the Cleveland news: Cleveland and Cuyahoga County welcomes Ukranians with open arms.

Same as always, they welcome all refugees.

 

[AnnieA]

This means more refugees fleeing to America.

This is what asylum is for.

 

[Irwin]

Is that a problem? We are an aging population so Ukrainian refugees and those crossing at the southern border would be taking up a lot of slack.

ETA: Well, we won't have to worry about too many male refugees. According to Ukrainian President Zelensky:

"In particular, it is forbidden for men aged 18-60, Ukraine citizens, to leave the borders of Ukraine," the statement said. "This regulation will remain in effect for the period of the legal regime of martial law. We ask the citizens to take this information into consideration."

Zelensky started conscription of men to fight the Russians, which is why they can't leave. But if a Ukrainian male wants to flee, he's probably not going to put much effort into defense of the country. He might even go to fight for Russia. At the same time, a lot of Russian soldiers probably don't approve of the invasion of Ukraine. Maybe they'll turn on Putin and fight for Ukraine's independence.

When I wrote the comment about more refugees coming to America, I was thinking about the housing shortage we're experiencing. There is also a worker shortage, so the refugees could fill some jobs, but good luck finding a place to live.

 

[Irwin]

Putin cracked down on Russians calling for peace tonight, with police and national guard seen dragging protesters away for showing solidarity with Ukraine and other similar demonstrations across the world.
Rarely seen protests against Russian president Vladimir Putin broke out in Moscow and Saint Petersburg, as the global outcry against the Russian strongman grew louder.

Pictures showed officers physically picking up protesters and dragging them away from the demonstrations, which are rare in the authoritarian country which does not tolerate dissent against the Kremlin.
Russian police have detained more than 1,700 people at anti-war protests across Russia after President Vladimir Putin sent troops to invade Ukraine, an independent monitor said Thursday.

Some 1,702 people in 53 Russian cities were detained, at least 940 of them in Moscow and over 340 people in the second-largest city Saint Petersburg, according to OVD-Info, which tracks arrests at opposition rallies.
Earlier, a Russian opposition activist who called for anti-war protests told Reuters that she had been detained by police.
'I was detained on my way out of the house,' Marina Litvinovich, the Moscow-based activist, wrote on Telegram. She confirmed her detention separately in a message to Reuters.

Litvinovich called on Russians earlier to gather in protest in various Russian cities on Thursday evening.
Litvinovich also said in a video statement on Facebook: 'I know that right now many of you feel desperation, helplessness, shame over Vladimir Putin's attack on the friendly nation of Ukraine. But I urge you not to despair.'
'We, the Russian people, are against the war Putin has unleashed. We don't support this war, it is being waged not on our behalf,' she added.
Earlier today, more than 150 senior Russian officials signed an open letter condemning Putin's invasion as 'an unprecedented atrocity' and warning of 'catastrophic consequences'.

The deputies said they were 'convinced' Russian citizens do not back the war and blamed Putin 'personally' for ordering troops into Ukraine in an attack 'for which there is no and cannot be justification'.
Across Europe and the rest of the world, anti-war activists took to their own streets and gathered outside Russian embassies including those in London, Berlin, Paris, Stockholm, Oslo, Riga, as well as further afield in Tokyo, making their voices heard. Sydney also saw furious protesters calling for an end to the conflict.

Demonstrations were held overnight before war was declared by Russia, and continued into Thursday as Russian tanks rolled towards Kiev. There have been reports of intense fighting and casualties on both sides.
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky on Thursday also called on Ukrainian to 'go out' and 'protest against this war', after urging Russians to do the same earlier this week in a bid to prevent the invasion.
'We have severed diplomatic relations with Russia. For all those who have not yet lost their conscience in Russia, it is time to go out and protest against the war with Ukraine,' he said today.

ST PETERSBURG: Huge crowds of people gathered to attend an anti-war protest on Thursday night, after Russian President Vladimir Putin authorised a military operation in Ukraine

Maybe we'll have protests here in the U.S. to show our solidarity with the Russian dissidents and support for Ukraine. I could support a rally of that sort and even consider participating. Meh, probably not. I'd have to leave the house.

 

[dseag2]

Who you talking about ?? Bubba the bitch's husband ? Or the first half breed oval office occupier?

Hey maybe you should start posting on Truth Social. It seems to have launched with a bang.

Mine is the only response you will probably get to your post.

Yawn and bye bye.

When will you learn that you have no supporters here and it time to move on? Just keep talking to yourself. Sad.

 

[hollydolly]

Maybe we'll have protests here in the U.S. to show our solidarity with the Russian dissidents and support for Ukraine. I could support a rally of that sort and even consider participating. Meh, probably not. I'd have to leave the house.

you've missed the boat....

Pro-Ukraine demonstrators carry signs and an effigy of Vladimir Putin near Russia's UN Mission Thursday in New York

Ukranians gather at the Federal Building in Los Angeles to protest the Russian invasion of Ukraine

Above, supporters of Ukrainian sovereignty protest the Russian invasion in New York


..and there's many more in the USA , as well as the UK, and other European countries

 

[Tish]

No matter what, Putin has to lose this war big time, trust me when I say China is watching very carefully for the world's reaction to this.

 

[Packerjohn]

I worry more about the lunatic fringe of the United States who back Putin because he's a Tough Guy. Morons without one brain between them.

Hey! You worried about lunatic fringe/morons in the United States? Don't come to Canada looking for an escape because we got 'em too and they are increasing year by year. These days it's a great time to be stupid because you get a lot of support from all sorts of places but I wouldn't mention where because I'm sure that this comment would be deleted by the politically correct.

 

[HarryHawk]

"People tend to get the politicians and the fishing tackle they deserve" - John Gierach, Fishing Bamboo

 

[hollydolly]

"People tend to get the politicians and the fishing tackle they deserve" - John Gierach, Fishing Bamboo

Sorry, but Ball Cocks.... !!