Seattle police ignoring reports of sexual assault after the woke city council voted to defund police

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https://www.nytimespost.com/seattle...the-woke-city-council-voted-to-defund-police/
‘The Seattle police department sexual assault unit is not at all investigating adult sexual assault reports or cases unless there was an arrest,’ said one source inside the force.

Only four detectives handle sexual assault and child abuse cases in Seattle at the moment – an indication of the widespread staff shortage affecting the demoralized force.

In the city of 724,000, 16 percent of officers are on leave, while others have left permanently.


ladies do not visit SEATTLE the tourism board must be giddy with trying to spin this !
 

Nathan said:
What does "woke" mean?
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Good question. I think it means anything the writer/speaker considers progressive.

Personally I prefer other words like aware, informed, alert to injustice and so on, but it can also be construed by others as revolutionary · progressive · reforming · reformist · progressivist · revisionist · leftist · left-wing · socialist · anti-capitalist · extremist · fanatical · militant · diehard

As you see, it can mean practically anything, and also nothing.

I've read the article, which is a bit of a dog's breakfast to be honest, and it sounds like the Police Department is short on officers rather than money and that this is not new situation.
 
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Like Seattle, most major cities are currently experiencing a police shortage and are having trouble filling vacancies. It doesn't have anything to do with a "woke" city council. That doesn't mean they're not woke; it's just not what caused the shortage.

Seattle mandated covid-19 vaccines for the police. Many of the officers currently on extended leave are on leave because they refused to get vaccinated. Now that the pandemic is winding down and becoming endemic, many of those on leave should be allowed to go back to work. Of course, that brings into question the quality of these officers who are afraid of a vaccine.

In addition, the cuts in the police budget aren't the cause of the shortage; the shortage resulted in the cuts. They have the money for new recruits but not enough takers.

That's what I read, anyway.
https://www.kuow.org/stories/seattle-rape-cases-moved-to-backburner-police-insiders-say
 
Slightly off topic. Are the NY Times and the NY Post affiliated newspapers? I was surprised by the source in the OP.
 
story appeared in many places and the police department left NOT due to vaccines
BUT before as their hands were being tied along with funding cuts.......
Many Many other Washington as well as neighboring state cities hired the officers.
A few even direct advertised to force ... come to our city we won't treat you like garbage....
Some cities took up to 12 seasoned and trained officers for their force. Saving on training and these officers had on the street experience ... all cities that spoke in a local article were very happy with their choice to Help Seattle get rid of their police force.

Many officers also took early retirement and / or changed careers..

Regardless this policy was confirmed and simply put should be embarrassing for that city.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...lt-woke-city-council-voted-defund-police.html
"Kshama Sawant of the Socialist Alternative party, the lone vote against the budget, wanted a 50 percent cut.
Council President M. Lorena Gonzalez proposed reducing the size of the police force by eliminating 101 unfilled officer positions. That amendment failed after she ran for mayor and lost, 38 percent to 62 percent, against a moderate who campaigned on restoring the police department.
Despite the promises to stop the attacks on the police budget made by the new mayor, Bruce Harrell - who took office on January 1 this year - the results are yet to be felt, and the hollowed-out force is proving unable to cope."
 
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Oh, this is a nonsense article. You have to remember that folks in the media have jobs. And in order to keep those jobs and get promoted to high level jobs, making more money...they have to stand out.

And they will take something with a tiny grain of truth...and blow it out in huge proportions, just to make an article look more compelling.

There is no police department in the United States making less arrests in rape cases, because a few idiots in society said the phrase "defund the police."

That is absolutely not happening.

If you want accurate crime statistics, those are kept by the DOJ, by law enforcement agencies and other professional sources. If you look at those sources, you will find accurate information.

Generally, police departments are massively underfunded...and generally there are always huge volumes of backlogged cases.

Rape cases have been like this for a very long time...decades. And that has happened through both Dem and GOP Administrations.

So, the actual truth is that, in fact, police departments are very behind in dealing with rape cases. But that has zero to do with current political talk about defunding the police.

The major reason it exists is because politicians love to scam the public by talking about cutting taxes, cutting taxes, cutting taxes. And they do it. And when they cut taxes, they absolutely cut funding for the police. And when the funding for the police is cut enough, they just can't keep up with the caseloads.

If folks want the police to handle a higher percentage of rape cases, we simply have to raise taxes, so they can hire more officers and get more resources.
 
There's a shortage of trained police for an "SVU'. If you have limited resources, why spend them on cases, which will not result in criminal charges?
I don't intimately know what's going on in Seattle, but I believe it's more involved and more complex, and less biased than this article. suggests
 
I think one of the problems with rape cases is that there tends to be less evidence than other cases. So, they can be hard to prosecute. And probably cost the towns a tremendous amount of money in investigators, long court cases and on. Often they are he said - she said cases. Those are often the hardest to resolve. It is one of the reasons that guys like Harvey Weinstein and Cosby got away with it all for so long.
 
You know...two people, alone in a room. No blood evidence. No weapon. How do you prove it happened? And if something happened, how do you prove it was not consensual?
 
Can't get info on background of nytimespost but it seems to be a sensationalized gossip rag, stealing the names of ny newspapers for credibility. If anyone can tell me who is behind this, I'd love to know. Has connections to UK.

Appears to be owned by India Times Post. Still digging. Connections to right wing media like Washington Times; also Sun (UK)

Tabloid Journalism==Fun to read but hard to trust as a reliable source.

Scamadviser does not agree with me, gives it good trust rating.
 
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Pepper said:
Can't get info on background of nytimespost but it seems to be a sensationalized gossip rag, stealing the names of ny newspapers for credibility. If anyone can tell me who is behind this, I'd love to know. Has connections to UK.

Appears to be owned by India Times Post. Still digging. Connections to right wing media like Washington Times; also Sun (UK)

Tabloid Journalism==Fun to read but hard to trust as a reliable source.

Scamadviser does not agree with me, gives it good trust rating.
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Rupert Murdoch is an Australian born , American Oligarch
 
fuzzybuddy said:
There's a shortage of trained police for an "SVU'. If you have limited resources, why spend them on cases, which will not result in criminal charges?
I don't intimately know what's going on in Seattle, but I believe it's more involved and more complex, and less biased than this article. suggests
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Exactly Fuzzy. One of my grand daughters, who has a genetic intellectual limitation, was befriended by a couple who invited her to go out with them and stay overnight afterwards.

In the morning she woke up naked in bed with no memory of what had happened to her. Her mother took her to hospital where the police were called, a rape test was used and she was tested for STDs. The police were in no doubt that she had been drugged and a crime had been committed but had insufficient evidence to bring a charge. They did go to the couple's home and demanded to see what was on their phones and they gave them a severe warning. The warning stays in the record in case they are repeat offenders.
 
SeniorBen said:
Like Seattle, most major cities are currently experiencing a police shortage and are having trouble filling vacancies. It doesn't have anything to do with a "woke" city council. That doesn't mean they're not woke; it's just not what caused the shortage.

Seattle mandated covid-19 vaccines for the police. Many of the officers currently on extended leave are on leave because they refused to get vaccinated. Now that the pandemic is winding down and becoming endemic, many of those on leave should be allowed to go back to work. Of course, that brings into question the quality of these officers who are afraid of a vaccine.

In addition, the cuts in the police budget aren't the cause of the shortage; the shortage resulted in the cuts. They have the money for new recruits but not enough takers.

That's what I read, anyway.
https://www.kuow.org/stories/seattle-rape-cases-moved-to-backburner-police-insiders-say
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That article is bunk, Ben.

Cuts in the police budget IS the direct cause of the shortages, and shrunken task forces as well. Task forces such as victims units. In a case of rape, the job of a victims unit includes a focused investigation, ensuring the safe transfer of a rape kit to a lab, obtaining a timely analysis of the rape kit, and getting counseling for the rape victim.

Other task forces focus on gang violence, drug sales, home invasions, homeless encampment crimes, residential burglaries, etc. A lot of those either shrunk or were shut down completely due to budget cuts.
 
Jules said:
Slightly off topic. Are the NY Times and the NY Post affiliated newspapers? I was surprised by the source in the OP.
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Could be because I think it's the Seattle Times and others on the west coast have paywalls. So have to go to a site that will repost an article from a newspaper or magazine.

That being said I recently saw where Amazon want's workers out of Seattle and over 50% of the residents want to leave.

https://www.geekwire.com/2022/67-of...ered-moving-out-of-the-city-new-survey-finds/

Things will swing back but the 1.6% arrest rate in child abuse cases is quite appalling. Sexual predators are frequently repeat offenders. Sooner or later vigilante justice will start taking over and there will be mistakes.
 
Warrigal said:
Exactly Fuzzy. One of my grand daughters, who has a genetic intellectual limitation, was befriended by a couple who invited her to go out with them and stay overnight afterwards.

In the morning she woke up naked in bed with no memory of what had happened to her. Her mother took her to hospital where the police were called, a rape test was used and she was tested for STDs. The police were in no doubt that she had been drugged and a crime had been committed but had insufficient evidence to bring a charge. They did go to the couple's home and demanded to see what was on their phones and they gave them a severe warning. The warning stays in the record in case they are repeat offenders.
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You could get a lot more action on the case, if you hire private investigators. But they are not cheap. Bare minimum for them is $100 per hour plus expenses. And the better ones are probably much more than that.

But they can go in there, find out what these lunatics have been up to and maybe gather enough evidence against them for a prosecution.
 
JonSR77 said:
You could get a lot more action on the case, if you hire private investigators. But they are not cheap. Bare minimum for them is $100 per hour plus expenses. And the better ones are probably much more than that.

But they can go in there, find out what these lunatics have been up to and maybe gather enough evidence against them for a prosecution.
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Too much water under the bridge since then. She is happy now and doesn't need to rake over any dead coals. I gave this example as just one of the many reasons why the police need to be selective in deciding which cases are worth handing over to the prosecutors. It isn't always about funding.
 
Jeni said:
https://www.nytimespost.com/seattle...the-woke-city-council-voted-to-defund-police/
‘The Seattle police department sexual assault unit is not at all investigating adult sexual assault reports or cases unless there was an arrest,’ said one source inside the force.

Only four detectives handle sexual assault and child abuse cases in Seattle at the moment – an indication of the widespread staff shortage affecting the demoralized force.

In the city of 724,000, 16 percent of officers are on leave, while others have left permanently.


ladies do not visit SEATTLE the tourism board must be giddy with trying to spin this !
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I hit "like" by mistake; I really meant to hit "reply." I can't figure out what the NY Times Post is supposed to be.

The NY Times is the venerable, highly respected newspaper that has been around forever, and is widely read and respected for telling the truth. The NY Post is a conservative tabloid, probably a "rag" most of the time.

So whose idea was it to marry the two publications and make them sound like one?
 

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