Shooting in Vegas

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Good advice Falcon, however it doesn't always work that way.... remember the Paris Cafe shooting in 2015 ( jeez I can hardly believe it was 2 years ago) ?... a tiny little place , no crowds there, but it was a target for murderers.......there's many other instances, but of course you're perfectly correct, large crowded places are a very easy target for these murdering scum... but what are we all to do?...we'll all end up being afraid to go out anywhere. :(


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ys-caf-bullets-victim-escaped-gun-jammed.html
 

Trade said:
I was reading some of the comments on yahoo. Lot's of racist remarks about her because she is Asian. You would have thought she was the shooter instead of the old white guy. There are some seriously sick people out there.
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Unfortunately this doesn't surprise me. Seriously sick indeed. I even saw a comment on one site that said OJ probably had something to do with it - I guess that's supposed to be funny. :rolleyes: Makes me wanna puke.
 
RadishRose said:
I heard his father was once on the FBI's most wanted list after escaping prison after bank robberies. Was diagnosed as psychotic and suicidal.
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That's what the shooter's brother said earlier today. He described their father as a psychopath. He also said he feels like an asteroid fell on him. He had no idea anything was going on with his brother (who did not have all of those weapons when he helped him move recently). I can't imagine how he must feel about his brother.

I'm impressed with the openness of the sheriiff, but they're saying so far they have no idea what was going on with the shooter. They seem to be hoping when the girlfriend or roommate or whatever she was to him gets back into the country, they can get some answers.

My sister has lived in Las Vegas for many years. She and her husband thought about going to the concert but they changed their minds. They rarely go anywhere near the Strip and decided they didn't want to get into the traffic nightmare. Good thing for them, but she described them as being in shock today.
 
I was relieved they weren't there but they know people who were and some who were injured. The authorities haven't released the identity of the fatalities so far. My sister's neighbor is an R.N. at University Hospital, the only trauma center in the area, so they got the most seriously injured. She said some of the wounded are not expected to live so the count will continue to rise.
 
Just talked to my daughter who lives and works in the area, she was up all last night but is O.K. 3 people she knows were killed in the shooting, the chaos throughout LV and surrounding areas has affected everyone greatly.
 
tnthomas said:
Just talked to my daughter who lives and works in the area, she was up all last night but is O.K. 3 people she knows were killed in the shooting, the chaos throughout LV and surrounding areas has affected everyone greatly.
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So sorry to hear of your daughter's loss of 3 friends. This is all just too tragic.
 
P.A. Luty, British animal rights advocate and environmentalist, spent his last years assembling weapons, including a home-made submachinegun, to provide a apodictic proof that gun prohibitions can never be effective. There's a great deal of information about both the man and his guns on his memorial website. He was a fine man.

http://www.thehomegunsmith.com/

Note: if anyone contests my, along with Merriam-Webster's and Oxford's, spelling of apodictic as opposed to apodeictic, I shall happily provide the clear etymological path.
 
Falcon said:
A sad day indeed. Best advice: STAY OUT OF CROWDS !

Also, teach your kids to stay out of crowds !
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The freedom of the many must give way to the freedom of the few?

This 64 year old man had ten weapons with him and several more at home IN HIS RETIREMENT VILLAGE ?

Better think twice before buying into one of these places in future.
 
Warrigal said:
The freedom of the many must give way to the freedom of the few?

This 64 year old man had ten weapons with him and several more at home IN HIS RETIREMENT VILLAGE ?

Better think twice before buying into one of these places in future.
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My understanding is that he was a multi millionaire from real estate dealings. He was a former accountant.

His brother said he never had any weapons when he helped him move.
 
There have been stories online reporting that ISIS has taken responsibility for the Las Vegas shooting.

The FBI responds with a press conference.

 
tnthomas said:
Just talked to my daughter who lives and works in the area, she was up all last night but is O.K. 3 people she knows were killed in the shooting, the chaos throughout LV and surrounding areas has affected everyone greatly.
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Sorry to hear that, my condolences, may they rest in peace. :(
 
Warrigal said:
The freedom of the many must give way to the freedom of the few?

This 64 year old man had ten weapons with him and several more at home IN HIS RETIREMENT VILLAGE ?

Better think twice before buying into one of these places in future.
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I don't think it's fair to point the finger at retirement villages. He could just as easily stored weapons in an upscale suburban home or the basement of a daycare center. There have been mass shootings at schools, churches, movie theatres, restaurants....we can't all avoid those places.
 
Camper6 said:
Well no. Semi Automatics are legal. Just keep pulling the trigger. Automatics, just hold the trigger.

Plenty of mass murders have been done with the semi-automatics which are legal.
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My comment was that AUTOMATICS are illegal. The semi automatics are OK in many states and maybe all states as they do not just keep shooting if you hold the trigger back.
 
This is a new world that we live in where human beings can become shooting gallery targets. Killing in a war is inevitable but this kind of peace time carnage within the homeland is horrific.

I understand about the horror everyone is feeling right now. I still remember how I felt while the gunman was on the loose shooting people at Port Arthur (1996) and how I felt after learning about the small children shot to pieces at Sandy Hook (2012).

I am not insensitive of everyone's feelings right now but seriously, this is what the future holds unless the people of America decide to address the problem. Falcon is right. Everyone's life is at risk in any venue while ever it is just so easy to amass a private arsenal.
 
BobF said:
My comment was that AUTOMATICS are illegal. The semi automatics are OK in many states and maybe all states as they do not just keep shooting if you hold the trigger back.
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BobF. My point was that the semi-automatics are just as deadly as the automatics and have been responsible for just about all the record mass murders to date except this one.

So you have to keep pulling the trigger in a crowd like that one attending the concert. So what?
 
Warrigal said:
This is a new world that we live in where human beings can become shooting gallery targets. Killing in a war is inevitable but this kind of peace time carnage within the homeland is horrific.

I understand about the horror everyone is feeling right now. I still remember how I felt while the gunman was on the loose shooting people at Port Arthur (1996) and how I felt after learning about the small children shot to pieces at Sandy Hook (2012).

I am not insensitive of everyone's feelings right now but seriously, this is what the future holds unless the people of America decide to address the problem. Falcon is right. Everyone's life is at risk in any venue while ever it is just so easy to amass a private arsenal.
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The problem has been addressed. It's the Constitution in the United States. There's no way they will do what they did in Australia in the United States.
 
applecruncher said:
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I don't think it's fair to point the finger at retirement villages. He could just as easily stored weapons in an upscale suburban home or the basement of a daycare center. There have been mass shootings at schools, churches, movie theatres, restaurants....we can't all avoid those places.
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Yes, I understand now that he did not have all of these guns when he moved in. I'm not blaming the retirement village. It is just that the very idea of guns in retirement homes came as a complete shock to me. But I live in Australia and we have a lot less guns around. We've just concluded our latest amnesty period when weapons can be handed in to the police with no questions asked. They are then destroyed to avoid them being sold on the black market. It is voluntary and does not remove all illegal guns but it helps.

I know I risk offending people who are in shock by even talking about guns now but ever since Sandy Hook the catch cry has been, "Now is not the time to talk about this". However that was nearly 5 years ago. When will it be time to be serious about this monstrous problem? Camper has said that the genie is out of the bottle and cannot be put back. That is pessimistic thinking in my opinion. An optimist looks at a difficult problem and asks "How can we make things better?". Then looks for practical approaches to that end.
 

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