Should Children As Young As 11 Be Allowed Get COVID Vaccine Without Parental Consent?

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A new bill in Washington, D.C. may allow them to do just that!
"On Tuesday, the D.C. Council passed the "Minor Consent for Vaccinations Amendment Act" in a 12-to-1 vote. Introduced by council member Mary Cheh in March 2019, the bill would allow kids as young as 11 decide if they want to be vaccinated. Under the bill, doctors would make sure that each kid is "capable of meeting the informed consent standard." To assist in this, the Department of Health would provide age-appropriate information about vaccines."
Full article: https://www.mic.com/p/a-new-bill-in...11-year-olds-consent-to-vaccinations-39947546

But there was enough of a concern about the effects of the vaccine in those under 16 for 4 out of the 17 committee members, tasked with deciding if the vaccine is a go, to vote NO. Here is a screenshot of the statement that was released by the panel. Notice the reference to age 16 and over. I think this law is crazy and is lawsuits waiting to happen. What if a child has a serious reaction or dies?

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No. :mad:

I loathe this sort of thing. I refer to it as... foot in the door framework, where it's this today, something else tomorrow, and sooner or later the young and growing crowd are doing whatever they so please.

My rule for such, so long as children are under the roof of their parents home and under the age of 18, they will do, and be guided by their parents, not by some haughty lawmaker or bill/act.
 
Aunt Marg said:
No. :mad:

I loathe this sort of thing. I refer to it as... foot in the door framework, where it's this today, something else tomorrow, and sooner or later the young and growing crowd are doing whatever they so please.

My rule for such, so long as children are under the roof of their parents home and under the age of 18, they will do, and be guided by their parents, not by some haughty lawmaker or bill/act.
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I so agree with each point you've made Aunt Marg!
 
I have a very different opinion here. To begin with, the title of this thread is misleading and inflammatory. "Should Children As Young As 11 Be Allowed Get COVID Vaccine Without Parental Consent?" (Emphasis is mine.)

The reality is that no COVID vaccines have yet been tested or approved for children under the age of 16. The article states:
"This bill only applies to vaccinations recommended by the United States Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices, like those against HPV; a vaccine can only be given if it's done in accordance with the ACIP's recommended schedule."

This bill would apply to polio, MMR, DPT, HPV, chicken pox, and the like.

Countries that include the US and Canada already give children many rights that parents cannot supersede or overrule. Among them is the right to an education, food, clothing, a safe environment, emergency medical care, and they cannot be beaten or abused in any way.

Woe to a a parent whose child shows up at school or a doctor's office with a few suspicious bruises, burn marks, a broken limb, or any other signs of abuse. And rightfully so. Parents taking a belt to their children may see CPS, a police officer, or both at their front door.

Children were once little more chattel, but thank God those days are gone. Parents must be responsible stewards of their offspring or risk intervention or other consequences.

In any event, this particular bill does not discuss Covid. Further, if a safe vaccine does become available for children it's likely that most schools will require vaccination - or medical proof why it cannot be administered - before children may return to classes.

Proof of vaccination was required by schools during my and my children's school days. Period. You didn't vaccinate them, they didn't get in. Parents who didn't take care of that detail either had to homeschool or discuss the matter with truant officers.
 
Aunt Marg said:
No. :mad:

I loathe this sort of thing. I refer to it as... foot in the door framework, where it's this today, something else tomorrow, and sooner or later the young and growing crowd are doing whatever they so please.

My rule for such, so long as children are under the roof of their parents home and under the age of 18, they will do, and be guided by their parents, not by some haughty lawmaker or bill/act.
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Agree 199%!!!!!
 
This strikes me as being about more than the Covid vaccine. What about those parents who refuse any medical help for anyone in their family at all, for "religious" reasons, or any other kind of reasons? Their decisions could often be putting their children's lives literally at risk. So do those kids have no rights when it comes to their own lives or health?

This is not an easy one to answer, but I think the answer is much more difficult and complicated than just saying, "Until they are 18, they are just kids and their judgement doesn't count; they must follow the wishes of their parents."
 
StarSong said:
I have a very different opinion here. To begin with, the title of this thread is misleading and inflammatory. "Should Children As Young As 11 Be Allowed Get COVID Vaccine Without Parental Consent?" (Emphasis is mine.)

The reality is that no COVID vaccines have yet been tested or approved for children under the age of 16. The article states:
"This bill only applies to vaccinations recommended by the United States Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices, like those against HPV; a vaccine can only be given if it's done in accordance with the ACIP's recommended schedule."

This bill would apply to polio, MMR, DPT, HPV, chicken pox, and the like.

Countries that include the US and Canada already give children many rights that parents cannot supersede or overrule. Among them is the right to an education, food, clothing, a safe environment, emergency medical care, and they cannot be beaten or abused in any way.

Woe to a a parent whose child shows up at school or a doctor's office with a few suspicious bruises, burn marks, a broken limb, or any other signs of abuse. And rightfully so. Parents taking a belt to their children may see CPS, a police officer, or both at their front door.

Children were once little more chattel, but thank God those days are gone. Parents must be responsible stewards of their offspring or risk intervention or other consequences.

In any event, this particular bill does not discuss Covid. Further, if a safe vaccine does become available for children it's likely that most schools will require vaccination - or medical proof why it cannot be administered - before children may return to classes.

Proof of vaccination was required by schools during my and my children's school days. Period. You didn't vaccinate them, they didn't get in. Parents who didn't take care of that detail either had to homeschool or discuss the matter with truant officers.
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Qft.
 
Sunny said:
This strikes me as being about more than the Covid vaccine. What about those parents who refuse any medical help for anyone in their family at all, for "religious" reasons, or any other kind of reasons? Their decisions could often be putting their children's lives literally at risk. So do those kids have no rights when it comes to their own lives or health?

This is not an easy one to answer, but I think the answer is much more difficult and complicated than just saying, "Until they are 18, they are just kids and their judgement doesn't count; they must follow the wishes of their parents."
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I feel terrible for the kids of parents who either don’t care about them enough to make an informed decision for them, or for religious reasons or whatever would refuse any sort of medical intervention. But we are talking about MY kids who will be lumped in with all of the others. Plus we are talking about a vaccine that has no definitive proof of long term effects, so yes, I would rather make that decision of whether to have it or not for MY children. I guess I don’t like the lumping anything or anyone together for any reason. Cases need to be taken on individually...IMHO.
 
Kathleen’s Place said:
I feel terrible for the kids of parents who either don’t care about them enough to make an informed decision for them, or for religious reasons or whatever would refuse any sort of medical intervention. But we are talking about MY kids who will be lumped in with all of the others. Plus we are talking about a vaccine that has no definitive proof of long term effects, so yes, I would rather make that decision of whether to have it or not for MY children. I guess I don’t like the lumping anything or anyone together for any reason. Cases need to be taken on individually...IMHO.
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This legislation isn't about the Covid vaccine. It covers vaccines that have been around for decades.
 
Shalimar said:
In my experience, not all children are fortunate enough to have parents willing and or able to make decisions in the best interests of their offspring.
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And I agree with you on that. But I also think these cases should be taken on an individual basis. I just don’t like the idea of the government (who I don’t like or trust much anyway 😉) making a blanket decision for me...but most especially for my kids.
 
StarSong said:
This legislation isn't about the Covid vaccine. It covers vaccines that have been around for decades.
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And a lot of those vaccines I’m not so positive I agree with either. Not so much the vaccines themselves, but the way they are administered. Never was a fan of lumping 3 or 4 differnt vaccines into one bolus.
 
Wasn't there a movie about a situation like this? Not about vaccines, but about a kid suing his parents for the right to die?
 
I bet it has something to do with abortion and a child's right to choose that option without parental notification, which by the way I heartily approve. Everything in this country seems to revolve around abortion.

Let's not debate this issue, ok, or the thread will be closed and we don't want that. Just going over in my mind the true intent of this legislation. Just pondering.
 

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