Should there be a smoking ban in apartment and condo units?

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Many cities have instituted smoking bans on patios and decks this year. Now what about multi-unit dwellings like apartments and condos where smoke can infiltrate neighbors units and balconies? Do you think there should be a ban on smoking in apartment and condo unit or is this going too far?
 

It's been decades since I live in an apartment, and over thirty years ago I smoked too. I don't like the idea of bans on any of these things really. Haven't paid much attention to the rules regarding apts and condos, but it seems that the patio and deck areas should be allowed, since it's outdoors. Maybe there should just be strick smoking and non-smoking buildings, where none of the renters can smoke anywhere, or they all can smoke everywhere. I even heard about some in gov't that want to ban those E-cigs...now that's crazy, IMO.
 

Apparently the owners/managers of our complex are doing the "smoke-free" thing in some of our buildings/apartments. Here was the notice sent out today:"For those residents receiving the SMOKE FREE SURVEY last week please turn in your survey as soon as possible. We are looking to designate some more smoke free buildings and if we don't hear from you we will assume you are a non-smoker. Thank you for your assistance!"

We got one of these Survey's some months ago and stated that we'd love to have our building, that our apartment is in, as "smoke-free" bc we don't smoke and don't like being around people who do.

That would mean for anyone looking for an apartment in our complex, management will ask them if they smoke or not and they will be in a building that is either "smoking" or "non-smoking". Apparently, we have some residents that are sick of smelling cigarette or cigar smoke in their apartment and they don't smoke! Cigarette and cigar smoke comes under doors and thru windows that are open during the summer.
 
... and once we have control of the smokers, then we can go after the drinkers, and then the people that wear Bermuda shorts, and then ...

"They came for the smokers and I didn't do anything because I don't smoke" ...
 
What about alcohol free buildings where you don't have to listen to the Saturday night arguments? TV free buildings where you don't want to hear the TVs? Music free buildings? And those annoying people who start their cars early in the morning? I think we are getting a bit carried away.
 
SifuPhil said:
... and once we have control of the smokers, then we can go after the drinkers, and then the people that wear Bermuda shorts, and then ...

"They came for the smokers and I didn't do anything because I don't smoke" ...
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Once again Master you are right.

As an active farter, I give my support to smokers, in hopes they will stand behind me when the anti's come after me.
 
I am steadfastly in favor of personal freedom so long as it doesn't impinge on the rights of others. In densely populated urban settings it is all too easy to impinge on the sensibilities of neighbors. In more traditional societies common cultural norms use to achieve a reasonable level of comity, but in today's multicultural anything goes societies common courtesy seems to be in short supply. My particular pet peeve concerns being forced to listen to other people's music particularly in the privacy of my own home. There is no simple answer to these problems, but that doesn't prevent me from missing the prevailing sense of propriety which I remember as a child.
 
Talked to the Manager of our complex this AM and she told me that she knows of a some apt. complexes in the area that are totally smoke-free. Right now it's just one building in our complex that is that way. She also told me, "If it were up to me, the entire complex would be smoke-free." She went on to tell me, "Do you know how hard it is to get the smell of cigarette smoke out of an apartment, even when everything is moved out? And, she did tell me that her and her Staff will ask prospective renters if they smoke or not, so they can be put in the correct building. If they don't mind being around cigarette smoke, they will have a better choice of an apartment.

No matter what people think, that word "Freedom" in the good old U.S. of A., is getting more and more non-existent every day.........doesn't bother us. We do live in a so-called "Free Country" which has a lot more freedom than many others in the world. Unfortunately, some people take that word "Freedom" to do whatever they want, whenever they want.......nope, don't work that way!
 
Living in a crowded apartment building exposes all residents to the "habits" of all the other people in the building....and very few people could be considered as being Ideal Neighbors. If a person chooses to live in such an environment, the best they can hope for is that none of the others are real Pests.
 
The apartment building I live in is not smoke-free. In the summer when windows and balcony doors are open, smoke comes in from other apartments and sometimes I use a fan facing the door to blow it back out. It can get bad, especially if people are partying. In winter, smoke comes in through air vents and in through hallways. Luckily there aren't many smokers here, and it's mostly on weekends. It is a risk for everyone, especially children and the elderly and those with allergies and respiratory conditions.

If smokers feel it is unfair to impose regulations like this, they need to consider how unfair it is for non-smokers to be forced to breathe toxic second-hand smoke. The regulations have been changed for a reason. I think non-smoking apartment and condo buildings are a great idea.
 
You know, I was reading through the various comments and it suddenly occurred to me, that we're not talking about a 'right to life' kind of issue. Smoking is a bad habit that causes illness and death in far too many so it's not like it's an inalienable right or a life 'need'..... like breathing for example. Remember the word is 'habit or compulsion' and some people have a compulsion to have expose themselves or maybe to abuse children or animals. Should we give everybody the freedom to engage in habits or compulsions in general even when it is distasteful or harmful to us or someone we love? Freedom of expression has limits.

I'd support no smoking in apartment buildings.
 
I remember, on another forum that I don't participate in anymore, I had a Thread about "making friends" and a few of the repliers said "you know how many people you are ignoring as friends because they smoke?" And, one replier said, "I truly believe this is up to the OP and his wife concerning smoking and friendship. As for me, I don't want to make friends with smokers either." I was sure glad to see at least one supporter out there!
 
I live in a multi unit, multi level age restricted (55 & up) apartment complex and smokers must go outside their apartment to smoke/balconies/patio etc.
 

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