Social Security benefits for illegal immigrants

Most identity fraud is committed by regular old US criminals looking to clean out bank accounts and open credit cards to obtain merchandise. They also use it to get loans they will of course not pay back. I don't think this is an illegal immigrant crime..
 

Identity theft by illegal immigrants is not harmless. Take over theft stopped the victim here from things like getting a mortgage.

http://cjonline.com/news/2013-03-25/topeka-illegal-immigrant-sentenced-identity-theft

And states with the highest id theft also have a lot of illegal immigration issues among other things.

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...nt-fraud-and-illegal-employment-61877887.html

Theft of id for "employment" purposes is still fraud and still causes problems. I know people with an Hispanic last name who had to re do their taxes and among other things when a tax return in their ss number was filed in another state. And they had to refile in paper only. Third time in 10 years.
 
Well, then I guess it's a good thing that Obama has issued the order that will enable some of the Undocumented to apply for a work visa and will let them pay taxes and FICA.. open and above board. It will cut down on stolen SS numbers.
 

Well, then I guess it's a good thing that Obama has issued the order that will enable some of the Undocumented to apply for a work visa and will let them pay taxes and FICA.. open and above board. It will cut down on stolen SS numbers.

I guess I have to look at the executive order as a glass half full. Now these illegal immigrants will be documented with a new or an additional paper trail to prosecute later. We get their picture, fingerprints and a known address.
 
I guess I have to look at the executive order as a glass half full. Now these illegal immigrants will be documented with a new or an additional paper trail to prosecute later. We get their picture, fingerprints and a known address.


hahaha... and therein lies the brilliance of the chess move played by President Obama.. and the neat little box he has put the GOP in. Make no mistake about it.. the GOP leadership will NEVER do as you have stated... NEVER.. why? because they are not that foolish. They KNOW beyond a doubt that if they did, they would insure that the massive Hispanic voting block will be forever in the Democratic camp... and there will NEVER be another GOP president in the White House. Why do you think your leadership is so livid.... they've been played by a Master.
 
Well, then I guess it's a good thing that Obama has issued the order that will enable some of the Undocumented to apply for a work visa and will let them pay taxes and FICA.. open and above board. It will cut down on stolen SS numbers.

This is really a good idea, when folks break the law, pass a bill, or make a new law so they aren't doing anything illegal.
 
This is really a good idea, when folks break the law, pass a bill, or make a new law so they aren't doing anything illegal.

Makes a hellava lot more sense than trying to round up and deport 12 million people at the estimated cost of $20,000 each... Doncha think?
 
hahaha... and therein lies the brilliance of the chess move played by President Obama.. and the neat little box he has put the GOP in. Make no mistake about it.. the GOP leadership will NEVER do as you have stated... NEVER.. why? because they are not that foolish. They KNOW beyond a doubt that if they did, they would insure that the massive Hispanic voting block will be forever in the Democratic camp... and there will NEVER be another GOP president in the White House. Why do you think your leadership is so livid.... they've been played by a Master.

It's about time. Although I really like Obama, he has been too nice, not willing to try hard enough to stop them. Hilary (and Bill) would have figured out a way to outsmart them, and not been so worried about criticism.

I believe the GOP have all but given up on the White House for now. They are concentrating all their resources on Congress and the Supreme Court. Almost as good because they have taken obstructionism to a new level.
 
Makes a hellava lot more sense than trying to round up and deport 12 million people at the estimated cost of $20,000 each... Doncha think?

No, I don't think it makes sense. First, I don't believe 12 million illegal immigrants need to be deported, but like I said, for us to start changing our laws because we can't handle the influx of illegal folks coming into the country is wrong. I'm not the smartest bulb on the string but something isn't right about it. It's like putting a bandaid on Cancer. I am NOT against immigrants, there would be no US without them, I am against how the government is dealing with the issue today.
 
I wanted to add that I wonder how we are supposed to know if someone has been here 5 years? Didn't he say if they'd been living and working here 5 years? I'm sure some of the workers employers could give legitimate references, but then what happens to that employer that's been paying illegals to live and work here for 5 years.
 
No, I don't think it makes sense. First, I don't believe 12 million illegal immigrants need to be deported, but like I said, for us to start changing our laws because we can't handle the influx of illegal folks coming into the country is wrong. I'm not the smartest bulb on the string but something isn't right about it. It's like putting a bandaid on Cancer. I am NOT against immigrants, there would be no US without them, I am against how the government is dealing with the issue today.

Except contrary to what some would want you to believe, there IS no influx of new people coming in. In fact, Mexican immigration is NOW at a net negative.. which means more of them are going back than are coming in. Partly because of increased boarder security (yes.. Obama has increased boarder security) shhhh... they don't want you to know that.. Obama has also deported more people than Bush... shhhhh...again. But also, the Mexican birthrate has declined..


http://polipundit.com/?p=37718
 
but there "was" already an influx or we wouldn't have those 12 million. Maybe it has dropped off, but I'm talking about dealing with what we've let go on for too long. And I'm not into the blame thing, I'm into the "fix it" thing. And again, I respect those "theys" opinions, and their knowledge, hell, I even respect your, little bit, lol!!
 
but there "was" already an influx or we wouldn't have those 12 million. Maybe it has dropped off, but I'm talking about dealing with what we've let go on for too long. And I'm not into the blame thing, I'm into the "fix it" thing. And again, I respect those "theys" opinions, and their knowledge, hell, I even respect your, little bit, lol!!

oh... you even respect my opinions.... ??? mercy me!!! Ok... I'm into fixing things too... So help me out here.. What's your plan?
 
oh... you even respect my opinions.... ??? mercy me!!! Ok... I'm into fixing things too... So help me out here.. What's your plan?

I knew that was coming. Well, since I need to get my breakfast/brunch, I'll just toss my first idea out here, give you time to think it over. I think it is Mars that they believe might, actually support life, I could be wrong, but since our gov. loves spending our money, how about lining up some trips for US Citizens who are getting sick and tired of our leadership? "All expenses paid" for, and two-way tickets just in case. Oh yes, and I'm in tight with the Property Brothers, so the gov. will pay them to design our homes.

Oh yes, and we keep our dual citizenship. As a leader, let's see, definitely an independent. Input, feedback, suggestions welcome, or, if you think you have a better plan, I guess that's ok, lol!
 
I knew that was coming. Well, since I need to get my breakfast/brunch, I'll just toss my first idea out here, give you time to think it over. I think it is Mars that they believe might, actually support life, I could be wrong, but since our gov. loves spending our money, how about lining up some trips for US Citizens who are getting sick and tired of our leadership? "All expenses paid" for, and two-way tickets just in case. Oh yes, and I'm in tight with the Property Brothers, so the gov. will pay them to design our homes.

Oh yes, and we keep our dual citizenship. As a leader, let's see, definitely an independent. Input, feedback, suggestions welcome, or, if you think you have a better plan, I guess that's ok, lol!

ahh.... good idea! Sounds about as good as anything the GOP has come up with ..... which is nothing either..
 


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