I agree SifuPhil, it depends on the individual's personality, too many examples of people who use marijuana in moderation, and never move on to abuse any other drug, including alcohol. From what I understand, there are a lot of successful businessmen who smoke recreationally and it does not affect their ability to function or remain responsible in their actions at all. They are much more likely to spiral downwards and out of control if they are drinkers, IMO.
Some Health-Related Facts About Marijuana
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I agree SifuPhil, it depends on the individual's personality, too many examples of people who use marijuana in moderation, and never move on to abuse any other drug, including alcohol. From what I understand, there are a lot of successful businessmen who smoke recreationally and it does not affect their ability to function or remain responsible in their actions at all. They are much more likely to spiral downwards and out of control if they are drinkers, IMO.
you over simplify. for me the "ole wives tale" turned into reality. life and death. anything you do to excess will kill you. its just not my schtick. never was. im fine living in my own skin. most drug addicts are not. and there are dozens of other names found dead from OD all the time. knock yourself out
Lots of people these days are od-ing on prescriptions drugs and dying too. They pickle their livers until they can't function anymore, many young people even have been dying from alcohol intoxication, where they drink so much, so quickly, it just takes them out. If they're prone to be self-destructive, they will severely abuse any substance and become addicts.
I've never known someone who was addicted to marijuana physically, where if they discontinued their use they would become sick or have seizures, like some hard drugs and alcohol. I have never known anyone to die from using marijuana.
If a person is so disturbed mentally, where they follow the dark path to destruction and death, they can do it with or without the help of any drugs. True, most things you do to excess will kill you. IMO, the benefits outweigh the risks with cannabis and the gateway drug thing is very weak. Many people's gateway drug was alcohol, something that was around and easily accessible, then they tried other drugs.
I've never known someone who was addicted to marijuana physically, where if they discontinued their use they would become sick or have seizures, like some hard drugs and alcohol. I have never known anyone to die from using marijuana.
If a person is so disturbed mentally, where they follow the dark path to destruction and death, they can do it with or without the help of any drugs. True, most things you do to excess will kill you. IMO, the benefits outweigh the risks with cannabis and the gateway drug thing is very weak. Many people's gateway drug was alcohol, something that was around and easily accessible, then they tried other drugs.
Denise1952
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I agree with this kc, I was being silly on this thread, and my apologies. The truth is, it can be dangerous for certain people, so then how do you weed out who is safe using it, and who is not. Or is there a form to get it in that relieves pain, but doesn't get a person high. I think of pain-pills, and how addictive they are. My brother-in-law died from pain-killers, they destroyed his life, prescriptions. But yet people need relief from pain. We can go to the moon, but we can't figure out something that is safe and relieves pain
One thing for sure, no one needs to be rude to others of another opinion around here. We need to stick together for cryin outloud, thanks for your posts, and I am sorry for the loss of your friends. Addictive personalities or not, their gone because this crap is available, and I mean pot, drugs, alcohol, cigarettes. I still agree with pot being used for medicinal purposes, if it's not addictive. I don't know if that is possible. Denise
PS and here are some good reasons for us to stick together, lol
Or is there a form to get it in that relieves pain, but doesn't get a person high. I think of pain-pills, and how addictive they are. My brother-in-law died from pain-killers, they destroyed his life, prescriptions. But yet people need relief from pain. We can go to the moon, but we can't figure out something that is safe and relieves pain
There are forms of medical marijuana which can be used for many conditions, including chronic pain, that do not get the patient high...http://www.projectcbd.org/
I agree with this kc, I was being silly on this thread, and my apologies. The truth is, it can be dangerous for certain people, so then how do you weed out who is safe using it, and who is not. Or is there a form to get it in that relieves pain, but doesn't get a person high. I think of pain-pills, and how addictive they are. My brother-in-law died from pain-killers, they destroyed his life, prescriptions. But yet people need relief from pain. We can go to the moon, but we can't figure out something that is safe and relieves pain
One thing for sure, no one needs to be rude to others of another opinion around here. We need to stick together for cryin outloud, thanks for your posts, and I am sorry for the loss of your friends. Addictive personalities or not, their gone because this crap is available, and I mean pot, drugs, alcohol, cigarettes. I still agree with pot being used for medicinal purposes, if it's not addictive. I don't know if that is possible. Denise
PS and here are some good reasons for us to stick together, lol
point taken. a lot of people just go along. follow the line of little ducks. im that one in the back that takes off in a different direction. what do you need to apololigze for ??? no harm done to me. im a tuff ole bird.
illegal drugs are a choice. just not for me. and prescrips can be dangerous as well. doctors do over medicate. I always have on file a prescript list i give them. will a new med conflict or not ??? you have to ask. I don't want to take any. but old age says do it or else.
luv the vid. it makes a point
well its now legal in CO. lets see how they handle it
Denise1952
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Thanks Kc Loved the vid too Good to see you today!! Yeah, we get tough don't we Get tough or get run over
Loved the vid too Good to see you today!! Yeah, we get tough don't we Get tough or get run overThanks Kc
you get the rep
im reminded in years past. i knew guys who stood on their soapbox and preached the evils of ciragettes. then stepped down and light a joint. hmmm do as i say not as i do???
also the flight your on. you want the pilot clean or higher than a kite and see 3 runways??? yeah the world's full of hypocrites and second guesser's huh ??
also the flight your on. you want the pilot clean or higher than a kite and see 3 runways??? yeah the world's full of hypocrites and second guesser's huh ??
Denise1952
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yeah, and sadly I've been both. ttys, Denise!!
we all have. born with faults
The thing that makes cigarettes so bad are all the cancer-causing toxic chemicals that the manufacturers put into them. I think someone who just rolled their own tobacco, as they did in the olden days, would be much better off. Joints don't have all those chemicals in them, and unlike cigarettes, they are rarely, if ever, chain-smoked.
I currently don't smoke either, but health-wise, I'd prefer the marijuana if I chose to smoke anything. I smoked Marlboros over 30 years ago for 15 yrs. and kicked cold turkey, never regretted it at all, or have the desire to smoke again...but, I don't preach to others and respect their right to do what they want. BTW, lost my older sister who was a smoker to lung cancer at the age of 42, wished she just smoked a couple of joints a day instead.
I've heard a lot of reports of airline pilots flying under the influence of alcohol and anti-psychotic/depressant drugs. I think the 3 runways syndrome would be more likely an experience of someone who was drunk, of course, we would all want out pilots clean and substance free.
I don't see any rudeness here, just giving our own opinions and the reasons for them. I agree that the gateway drug thing is a myth and very much overused, as the first argument against marijuana, either medical or recreational. Many kids start out before they are of age with alcohol or cigarettes, because they are things that can alter the mind and mood. Also, not everyone who uses marijuana goes to harder drugs.
People who have personality or mental issues which drive them to overindulge in any drug, have a problem that can't be blamed on marijuana. I agree with Kcvet, that illegal drugs are a choice, and prescription drugs may also be very harmful, and can have deadly side-effects or interactions, so people must also be cautious with their use.
Those celebrities who die of overdosing with prescription pills, alcohol, or hard drugs many times have personal problems which lead to their deaths. None of those people have ever died from the use of marijuana. I don't condone the use of any hard drugs like heroin or cocaine, or questionable prescription drugs which alter the mind.
I can only share my thoughts and opinions, and as I've said on other topics, I am in no way out to change anyone's mind about their beliefs. They have their reasons for their opinions, that's their right, and I respect that. I also expect the same consideration in return.
I currently don't smoke either, but health-wise, I'd prefer the marijuana if I chose to smoke anything. I smoked Marlboros over 30 years ago for 15 yrs. and kicked cold turkey, never regretted it at all, or have the desire to smoke again...but, I don't preach to others and respect their right to do what they want. BTW, lost my older sister who was a smoker to lung cancer at the age of 42, wished she just smoked a couple of joints a day instead.
I've heard a lot of reports of airline pilots flying under the influence of alcohol and anti-psychotic/depressant drugs. I think the 3 runways syndrome would be more likely an experience of someone who was drunk, of course, we would all want out pilots clean and substance free.
I don't see any rudeness here, just giving our own opinions and the reasons for them. I agree that the gateway drug thing is a myth and very much overused, as the first argument against marijuana, either medical or recreational. Many kids start out before they are of age with alcohol or cigarettes, because they are things that can alter the mind and mood. Also, not everyone who uses marijuana goes to harder drugs.
People who have personality or mental issues which drive them to overindulge in any drug, have a problem that can't be blamed on marijuana. I agree with Kcvet, that illegal drugs are a choice, and prescription drugs may also be very harmful, and can have deadly side-effects or interactions, so people must also be cautious with their use.
Those celebrities who die of overdosing with prescription pills, alcohol, or hard drugs many times have personal problems which lead to their deaths. None of those people have ever died from the use of marijuana. I don't condone the use of any hard drugs like heroin or cocaine, or questionable prescription drugs which alter the mind.
I can only share my thoughts and opinions, and as I've said on other topics, I am in no way out to change anyone's mind about their beliefs. They have their reasons for their opinions, that's their right, and I respect that. I also expect the same consideration in return.
SifuPhil
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I believe they have already patented at least one synthetic cannabis compound for medical purposes - Marinol.
It's funny, though - the government is busy banning all of the so-called "legal weed" compounds that were being sold over-the-counter at gas stations and convenience stores, then they turn around and patent their OWN "legal weed".
Gotta' luv that ol' gubbermint!
layful:I agree, that the government and their large corporate interests in the pharmaceutical business, would rather profit from marijuana by making it into a high priced prescription drug, than just letting the people use it at their discretion. Very similar to how they are trying to give negative press against vitamins and supplements, while adding them to new pharmaceutical drugs behind the scenes. http://healthimpactnews.com/2014/me...eason-the-government-wants-to-keep-it-banned/
Ina
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Thanks Sea, that was good reading. Now to get majority of people too see the benefits.
Happyflowerlady
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It is hard to understand where the government is really going with this issue. In some states it is legal, at least for medical use; and some states for recreational use. The government filed for a patent for medical marijuana several years ago; so you know that thy are planning to market it at some point.
As they allow it in the separate states, they are also giving people a card, that they get from their doctor, stating that they are using it for medical purposes. Once you get that card, it also says that you can not legally own a weapon any more. If you read the information from any state that has legalized marijuana, you will find this in the law that has been passed to allow it.
Now, I was reading this strange and terrible story of a teenager who is being accused of making marijuana brownies, and they not only want to make it a felony conviction; but they want to put this boy in jail for LIFE ! ! Not even all murderers are sentenced to this many years, and this is basically a victimless crime (according to the article), since the family was growing it for their own medical use.
http://fija.org/2014/05/19/texas-man-faces-life-in-prison-for-baking-brownies/
HappyFlowerLady
As they allow it in the separate states, they are also giving people a card, that they get from their doctor, stating that they are using it for medical purposes. Once you get that card, it also says that you can not legally own a weapon any more. If you read the information from any state that has legalized marijuana, you will find this in the law that has been passed to allow it.
Now, I was reading this strange and terrible story of a teenager who is being accused of making marijuana brownies, and they not only want to make it a felony conviction; but they want to put this boy in jail for LIFE ! ! Not even all murderers are sentenced to this many years, and this is basically a victimless crime (according to the article), since the family was growing it for their own medical use.
http://fija.org/2014/05/19/texas-man-faces-life-in-prison-for-baking-brownies/
HappyFlowerLady
Charge him with a felony and put him in jail for life? Now that makes sense. And they're going to weigh the entire brownie with all the ingredients and consider it a controlled substance, sounds about right. Jails are too full of criminals busted on drugs charges, just make the stuff legal and save the cells for the murderers, IMO. It's not even worth following the laws and getting medical marijuana for pain, you'll just get screwed in the end one way or another. Better for those folks with medical conditions to do what they did for years, and buy it off the streets....that's obviously what the government wants. And you're right, if anyone make money off of it, it will be the big pharmaceutical companies. Well, at least they'll finally be putting out some drugs that don't kill you, make your disease worse, or drive you nuts.
And they're going to weigh the entire brownie with all the ingredients and consider it a controlled substance, sounds about right. Jails are too full of criminals busted on drugs charges, just make the stuff legal and save the cells for the murderers, IMO. It's not even worth following the laws and getting medical marijuana for pain, you'll just get screwed in the end one way or another. Better for those folks with medical conditions to do what they did for years, and buy it off the streets....that's obviously what the government wants. And you're right, if anyone make money off of it, it will be the big pharmaceutical companies. Well, at least they'll finally be putting out some drugs that don't kill you, make your disease worse, or drive you nuts.