Tell me again how bad it is.

Pepper said:
What you posted in the OP does not look official.
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I checked and there is no such format of information listed on the CDC.

The other thing that no one is addressing here is the hospital capacity is only so much. There are other people suffering waiting for tests and surgeries, that can't get them because our hospitals are filled with coronavirus patients. I have a friend that is waiting for surgery and it is getting critical.
 
rgp said:
Glad you finally realize it...........
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wow, If you can't trust the medical community, then who do you trust, some nut case that lives their life on facebook? no education, no background, nothing to base their ideas on except another nut case on facebook
 
I fully expect this pandemic to get worse, before any substantial decrease. With schools just starting to open, and many people ignoring the warnings, AND flu season arriving soon, I expect the hospitals will be stretched to their limits....again. Some of the estimates are going as high as 300,000 deaths by year end, and I tend to believe it.

Our local schools are set to start classes on Aug 24th, and I will be surprised if they are still holding in person classes by the end of Sept.
 
Don M. said:
I fully expect this pandemic to get worse, before any substantial decrease. With schools just starting to open, and many people ignoring the warnings, AND flu season arriving soon, I expect the hospitals will be stretched to their limits....again. Some of the estimates are going as high as 300,000 deaths by year end, and I tend to believe it.

Our local schools are set to start classes on Aug 24th, and I will be surprised if they are still holding in person classes by the end of Sept.
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I agree with you. I think our future is much blacker than our past with this stuff. Look at New York! They came from the worst case to the best case, but other states are not following the proven example. We still have people that are sure it is all nonsense and not really happening, people who are defying all that good medical science is telling them and New York has proven.

I don't understand these people??
 
pip48 said:
wow, If you can't trust the medical community, then who do you trust, some nut case that lives their life on facebook? no education, no background, nothing to base their ideas on except another nut case on facebook
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Frankly, if you trust the medical community at large......you are indeed rolling the dice........jmo
 
One thing has to be factored in al of the stats. Given that the population is spilt wide open on prevention vs. partying as we have seen on many college campuses since they opened how can a controlled study be done?
 
You can "recover" from COVID but still have long-term problems. If SARS-COV2 follows the same percentages as other similar viral epidemics, between 12-27% of survivors will suffer long-term health effects:

Researchers warn covid-19 could cause debilitating long-term illness in some patients
Brian Vastag and Beth Mazur, The Washington Post, May 30, 2020
https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Researchers-warn-covid-19-could-cause-15305291.php

Coronavirus destroys lungs. But doctors are finding its damage in kidneys, hearts and elsewhere.
A small but growing body of evidence suggests the virus invades other organs and tissues, causing heart arrhythmias, blood clots and renal failure.
Washington Post 15April2020
https://www.washingtonpost.com/heal...f71ee0-7db1-11ea-a3ee-13e1ae0a3571_story.html

Long-term symptoms, complications of COVID-19
August 3, 2020 MayoClinic.org
https://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/discussion/long-term-symptoms-complications-of-covid-19/
 
Lethe200 said:
You can "recover" from COVID but still have long-term problems. If SARS-COV2 follows the same percentages as other similar viral epidemics, between 12-27% of survivors will suffer long-term health effects:
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Thank you for sharing that.

I'm not questioning your numbers but I'm wondering where you got the 12-27% figure for long term effects for survivors of previous viral epidemics.
 
Long-haulers (people left with debilitating symptoms months after "recovering" from COVID) are becoming increasingly common and well documented. COVID isn't necessarily like the flu where you get very sick for about a week and are left with a lingering cough that gradually disappears after a month or two.

The long-haulers stories are heartbreaking. Many are formerly fit, healthy, strong people in their 40s or younger.

People who say, "I'm going to live my life. If I get sick, I get sick." have no idea what kind of long-term miserable health problems they may be signing up for.
 
For a graphic description, see the thread I started earlier today, "If you need an additional incentive..." It's written by sportswriter Bill Plaschke, about his own nightmarish experience with the disease.
 

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