The Black B**ch Pub.

Mike

Mike

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In the Town of Linlithgow, the County Town of the County
that I was born in, has a pub named after a Black Female Dog.

Legend has it that her owner was sentenced to death by being
exiled on an Island in Linlithgow Loch, the dog didn't want that
to happen, so she swam across to the Island, carrying food for
her master, daily for a long time.

Whether the story is true or not is beside the point, the owners,
an English Brewery, called Greene King, want to change the name
to the "Black Hound", because they don't want to be accused of
being racist.

The people who live in Linlithgow don't want the name changed,
as they all call themselves "Black B**ches", it is kind of honour to
have a different identity from others.

The brewery will lose all its custom and will end up closing the pub,
or selling it cheap to somebody who will restore the name, I also
believe that they will picket the pub and stop others from entering,
I have seen this kind of action before, when a pub steps out of line.

Mike.
 

i just watched a movie that had a similar kind of story, and was filmed in England. It was about crop circles. An ambitious journalist goes to a town that has new crop circles very often, and is kind of the "area 51" of England. Where did they come from? It was not until the end of the movie that it is revealed that a person is making them, and after 20 years of experience has become an expert at making very intricate and huge patterns in the fields.

The journalist is excited about telling the story that they are man made and reveling who was responsible, to expose the hoax. Several of the locals try to persuade her not to, and even her camera man tries to stop her from revealing it as a hoax. This small team of crop circle makers have become expert artists/craftsmen and they beg the journalist to accompany them on the next project.

With night vision they film it's construction. She was so awed by what they accomplished that she decided to not reveal how they are made. So they left it alone. That is what I hope happens to the pub...leave it as it is, the rich tradition and mystery is much better than ruining it by being personally/politically
correct/ambitious.

In Circles
 
You do have to admit, the "Black Bitch" may have another meaning, rather than a dog. And, let's face it, this is the UK., weird names are in their DNA. All you do is have a profile of a dog, and the words, "Black Bitch" superimposed over the dog's profile. Then it's clear "Bitch" refers to the dog.
 
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The pub as it stands, whoever is stirring in the Head Office of the Brewery
obviously hasn't visited the place, I think.

There is also a model of a black Greyhound on the windowsill inside one
of the bars, it can be seen in their website, images.

Mike.
 
The pub's logo clearly shows it's name is after a black (female) dog. Knowing the history of it's name, I wouldn't have a problem with it. My son once posted a meme that distinguished the word bitch (female dog vs female human) to point out that we should not be complacent with the trend to refer to women as bitches. One picture was of a female dog the other of a woman. The caption (one side) This is a b*tch and (the other side) This is a woman.
 
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I doubt very much Greene King will lose any custom over this.. the pub is simply being renamed the Black Dog according to the Media which reported it last week... . There are too many pubs going out of business in the UK due to the pandemic for people to choose not to patronise a pub due to it's change of name despite the history
 
timoc said:
Me and a mate read about this, an he has offered to take me north of the border to have a pint there, and to sign any petition they may have to stop this stupid nonsense.
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No petition will change it , this country now takes the knee to the permanently offended minority ..we are now but a shadow of the mighty UK who buckled to no-one.. Churchill would be spinning in his grave at how we bow down to this nonsense
 
There is more to this story and although the name of the pub may offend some people (all white I may add). The Greene King pubs traces its links to slavery to its founder, Benjamin Greene, who records show, held at least 231 slaves on Caribbean islands.

Born in 1780 in Northamptonshire, Greene moved to Bury St Edmonds, Suffolk, where in 1806 he founded what would become the UK's largest brewery. He inherited plantations in the West Indies from Sir Patrick Blake, 2nd Baronet, upon his death.

In 1828, he bought the Bury and Suffolk Herald, at a time when the campaign to abolish slavery was being debated.

In his role as a newspaper proprietor, Greene used the pages of the broadsheet to ferociously oppose abolition of slavery. According to his Oxford biography, he campaigned with 'enormous vigour into representing the interests of the West Indian slave proprietors at a critical juncture of their affairs.'

His opposition to abolition of slavery saw him become a figure of controversy in Suffolk, and in 1837 he moved to London where he founded Benjamin Greene & Son - West Indian ship merchants - with his son in Russell Square.

So you see, his slavery connections has a lot to do with it.

Despite Greene's protestations, MPs passed the Slavery Abolition Bill in 1833, on the condition that slave-owners were compensated for freeing their slaves.

Records archived by UCL show Greene claimed the modern equivalent of £500,000 for 231 slaves in the West Indies.
 
hollydolly said:
No petition will change it , this country now takes the knee to the permanently offended minority ..we are now but a shadow of the mighty UK who buckled to no-one.. Churchill would be spinning in his grave at how we bow down to this nonsense
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If my word is not enough, and I'm expected to 'give the knee' to prove that I'm not a racist, then I am deeply offended.
I will not submit to that kind of pantomine, and I'm finding that anger is now welling up inside me at the thought that my country is being invaded by people who want to destroy our traditions and install their own. :mad:
 
Laurie said:
That's because you know no better!

Seriously; while artisan and micro-breweries are making a small dent the brewing industry in the UK is dominated by the big boys, who undercut and buy out the local opposition and get themselves in a near monopoly position.
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I personally don't drink alcohol... it's just that there's a lot of Greene King pubs around these parts...or at least there was before most of the village pubs bit the dust...
 
Greene King owned 4 breweries within about 20 miles of us, Baldock, Biggleswade and Furneux Pelham. Those are all closed now and our beer comes from the Bishop Stortford brewery and is reasonable to be honest. When I was younger I would always drink bottles of Guinness in a Greene King pub because the beer was dreadful.

As regards the OP, I do wish they would stop changing pub names and Greene King are not the only ones doing it.
 
Purwell said:
Greene King owned 4 breweries within about 20 miles of us, Baldock, Biggleswade and Furneux Pelham. Those are all closed now and our beer comes from the Bishop Stortford brewery and is reasonable to be honest. When I was younger I would always drink bottles of Guinness in a Greene King pub because the beer was dreadful.

As regards the OP, I do wish they would stop changing pub names and Greene King are not the only ones doing it.
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There's 20 GK pubs within a 10 mile radius of here... if I included Bishops Stortford, and the north and west of of the county there would be double that .
 
I never had a good pint in a Greene King pub, it
had its own funny taste, not nice, even chilled.

Mike.
 
I don't know all the Greene King outlets but I don't think they. lie on the central "brewing" aquifer and therefore have to use inferior water.

It is no accident that Burton on Trent is the real beer capital of the UK.
 
hollydolly said:
I doubt very much Greene King will lose any custom over this.. the pub is simply being renamed the Black Dog according to the Media which reported it last week... . There are too many pubs going out of business in the UK due to the pandemic for people to choose not to patronise a pub due to it's change of name despite the history
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I don't think everyone will just sit back and take it lightly, though.
 

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