You're only as old as you feel.
I'm 68, but I don't feel a day over 80.
The Derek Chauvin Trial
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I'm 68, but I don't feel a day over 80.
Police departments only weed out the Chauvins on TV cop shows; not in real life.
When I worked in retail firearms & instruction, many of our customers were police officers.
Funny how they would talk freely, assuming that anyone who worked in that field wouldn't have a problem hearing cops talk about their brutality.
Example: Three uniformed officers chat about a recent arrest.
One officer (with pure ecstasy on his face) says, "S--t, the greatest feeling in the world is when I dragged a guy out of my car, jammed my nightstick in his belly & watched him puke his guts out all over the street.....damn, he had a big lunch." Then all 3 laugh hysterically.
hollydolly
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Gosh believe me I have some days like that too...
70, when I was 40, sounded old. Now that I'm well into my seventies, it doesn't sound nearly as aged. In fact, 80 is beginning to sound so much younger than it once did!!! :>)
Elsie
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Poor Christopher to have seen that Floyd apparently was badly affected by illegal drugs and to have to tell this in court, giving the prosecution more ammo against Floyd. Another reason for his feeling guilty could be that he couldn't talk Floyd into going back into the store -- concerning the counterfeit $20.00 bill. ??
Butterfly
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I can't help wondering if Mr. Floyd even knew it was a counterfeit $20. For all I know, I could have some counterfeit money in my purse. Not that it really matters, considering what happened afterwards, but I just wonder if he knew.
That's why they recently made more changes to bills - because there is technology now that makes excellent counterfeit bills that require experts to detect.
UsernameRSP
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Not watching the trial...It's just another way to get people worked up emotional and polarized...I think the PTB want this guy to get a non-guilty so there's just another excuse for rioting and chaos...
You may be right...it would certainly give fuel to the current atmosphere.
You can't help wondering about all the 'ifs'. If there had been no camera to record the incident....would it have been logged as an unfortunate accident.....if the colour had been reversed, white victim, black policeman...what would now be happening on America's streets?
I haven't watched the video or any part of the trial, and I have no sympathy for either George Floyd or Derek Chauvin. And
I suspect that no matter what he outcome of the trial may be, some folks will use it as an excuse to riot/destroy/steal/murder as is their wont.
I suspect that no matter what he outcome of the trial may be, some folks will use it as an excuse to riot/destroy/steal/murder as is their wont.
hollydolly
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The CCTV operator who captured the whole thing on the camera on the garage across the road, said they almost never get footage of anything other than the bridge or the shop etc.. no criminal acts, but on this occasion, she not only witnessed it, but because DC was on GF's neck for so long she thought her screen had frozen.. , and after realising her screen was not frozen she called for back up to attend the scene
The only part of the trial that I watched was the opening remarks from the Defense's Counsel. I thought he did an excellent job, but those remarks will not be what determines if Chauvin is innocent or guilty.
After spending days watching the O.J. trial, I swore that I would never subject myself to that kind of torture again. It's pretty bad when you are watching a program, like a live trial, and you start cursing at the screen.
After spending days watching the O.J. trial, I swore that I would never subject myself to that kind of torture again. It's pretty bad when you are watching a program, like a live trial, and you start cursing at the screen.
Today was a devastating day for the defense. An older, very experienced Lt Zimmerman testified that the knee on the neck hold is never used or taught in any of their classes; "because they could die." He said they are taught that once you cuff a person, "He is yours. You are responsible for his health and safety." He also testified that they are all taught to only put a person in the prone position long enough to cuff them because they can't breathe very well that way. I'm trying to keep an open mind until I hear the defense side of things, but I can't imagine what could save Chauvin now.
And rightfully so, it should be devastating.
If there is any justice, nothing will save this dirtbag. He belongs in a gas chamber. With a timer set for 9 minutes.
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I second your sentiment, Win.
What does PTB stand for?
Remy
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He's going to be found guilty IMO. Deservingly so. I have no idea who this former officer is or what was in his mind. I'd find it hard to believe his intent was to kill George Floyd but his action certainly did.
I watched the body cam footage presented in the trial. George Floyd's behavior seemed intense. He did try to kick from what I noticed. However I had the same thought the CNN analysts had even before they spoke: There were no attempts at de-escalation. It never needed to get to that point.
Also what the witness said today about how to position someone after they had handcuffs applied made a lot of sense.
George Floyd had dark skin but I could even see (and I thought this last summer from cell phone video) that he was very red in the face. This man was in severe distress with that knee on his neck.
I watched the body cam footage presented in the trial. George Floyd's behavior seemed intense. He did try to kick from what I noticed. However I had the same thought the CNN analysts had even before they spoke: There were no attempts at de-escalation. It never needed to get to that point.
Also what the witness said today about how to position someone after they had handcuffs applied made a lot of sense.
George Floyd had dark skin but I could even see (and I thought this last summer from cell phone video) that he was very red in the face. This man was in severe distress with that knee on his neck.
hollydolly
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Talk about hung by your own petard... Chauvins' body camera fell off half way through the arrest, but not before it managed to capture him doing this...
tbeltrans
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That is an interesting point. My comments here are in general, rather than specifically about George Floyd...
The major local TV station, WCCO, did a investigative news item some years ago, checking randomly picked dollar bills from people's wallets among the employees at the station, checking these for cocaine. They found that nearly all the bills had some detectable amount of cocaine in them.
There is probably a lot that we don't know about the bills we carry. That is probably less of an issue today since many of us carry little or no cash anymore, but it is interesting.
As for counterfeit money, the stores may have device to check for this, but the average person does not, so we could very well be carrying counterfeit money and not know it.
Tony
It wasn’t even established that it was counterfeit money.
Floyd and Chauvin used to work together as security in a bar the year before. They personally knew each other.
This officer kneeled on his neck for over 9 minutes with another officer on his diaphragm and another man sitting on his legs WHILE he was hand cuffed and face down.
What possible danger were these officers in?
In my opinion, this was intentional murder. Even the photos look like something from ‘trophy hunters.’
Floyd and Chauvin used to work together as security in a bar the year before. They personally knew each other.
This officer kneeled on his neck for over 9 minutes with another officer on his diaphragm and another man sitting on his legs WHILE he was hand cuffed and face down.
What possible danger were these officers in?
In my opinion, this was intentional murder. Even the photos look like something from ‘trophy hunters.’
I always carry some cash. God knows what it could be or was used for.
tbeltrans
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1. The man was murdered
2. The guy that killed him was a cop. You call cops when your in trouble; they come to resolve the situation ("Do something.")
3. Two of the cops are guilty, but their cops that were called to intervene-they did.
4. The cop needs to do hard time, How Long? What about wives, children or do they not count?
2. The guy that killed him was a cop. You call cops when your in trouble; they come to resolve the situation ("Do something.")
3. Two of the cops are guilty, but their cops that were called to intervene-they did.
4. The cop needs to do hard time, How Long? What about wives, children or do they not count?
The cops were called because shop workers ‘thought’ that Floyd might be dealing with counterfeit money. ‘Thought.’
Even if the cops ‘thought’ he was guilty, that’s what courts are for. Either charge him ( they couldn’t since they had no proof of anything ) or let him go. Neither was done. These three cops became his judge, jury and executioner.
Even if the cops ‘thought’ he was guilty, that’s what courts are for. Either charge him ( they couldn’t since they had no proof of anything ) or let him go. Neither was done. These three cops became his judge, jury and executioner.