The evidence is building that Carson is a prolific liar

I'm not a fan of Carson but I think rather than he lied about any thing he just didn't do a very good job of expressing what really occured in his life.

As for the press--------They would probably claim that Jesus Christ staged the Crucifixion.
 

I'm not a fan of Carson but I think rather than he lied about any thing he just didn't do a very good job of expressing what really occured in his life.

As for the press--------They would probably claim that Jesus Christ staged the Crucifixion.

He lied. Even his campaign admits it.
 
Carson isn't anybody to seriously consider for the oval office any more than Trump is.

And does anybody really believe that Trump wants to be president? Does anybody really believe that he would give up control of ALL his billions and his holdings for four years? That is NOT going to happen.

They are both batshi*t crazy.

I don't think Trump wants to be prez either. He's just bored and playing a game.
 

I think the US is the only country where you automatically have US citizenship if you are born there. Ireland used but I believe they stopped. I know lots of American expats in the UK who are married to British men. Their babies have dual citizenship at birth.
 
What does it say about con voters, that Carson is on top in the polls, when he admits that he hit his mother with a hammer, hit his "friend" in the face with a padlock, and stabbed another "friend" with a knife?

Just what does it take to get disqualified as a candidate?
 
My theory is that this is a play to Evangelicals... THEY LOOOOOVE a good "redemption" story... So they eat this crap up... The fact that he "found Jesus in the bathroom" and was saved is all that matters in their minds... It doesn't matter one iota that he has ZERO policy ideas.. He was "saved"... and spouts the most fringiest of fringe rhetoric.. This all plays very well in Iowa.. the state with the largest number of fringe Evangelicals.. and it plays well with the base who are shooting the middle finger at the establishment GOP.. He will never survive the General.

Ya know... this is the GOP's own darn fault. For years they have promised the Right things that they had no intention of delivering. They promised changes in social issues... deficit reduction.. lower taxes which brought out the base in droves.. Then once elected.. they went on to serve their Corporate puppet masters and to hell with what the Base expected. Is it a wonder these frustrated low info voters are flocking to people like Trump and Carson?
 
I know this may shock you but some of that stuff it's not true. Didn't your mom ever tell you don't believe everything you hear?

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/nov/9/ben-carsons-mother-verified-stabbing-story-in-1997/

http://americablog.com/2015/11/ben-carsons-proof-for-story-about-hoax-class-is-literally-parody.html

Jim,

In an presidential candidate are charter and trust a big of an issues to you? If so, i'm interested in what democratic candidate would you say has better trustability them Ben Carson?

all of them
 
Your statement fails to address the question of American Citizen mother, Foreign Citizen father. Under Kenyan law, the mother's citizenship is, apparently, not a part of the citizenship equation. imp
That may be true "under Kenyan law" but not under the law of the United States. The Presidential qualifications concern themselves only with OUR laws.
 
I just got a robot call from Dr. Ben Carson....he wanted to speak to me about 'the truth that is going on in Washington'...lol

I think his campaign manager should stay away from the word 'truth'.
 
List of 10 Verified Hillary Clinton Lies
You have to wonder exactly how many prevarications it will take for people to become aware that Hillary Clinton might have a something of a tiny little character flaw – like being a pathological liar – that will reflect negatively on her fitness to be president and commander-in-chief.


Presented for your enjoyment is a list of 10 of Hillary Clinton’s recent and past lies.


Note that this list doesn’t include any of the misrepresentations relating to any of the many scandals she was involved in when while in the White House.


1. Hillary Clinton lied as a staff member of the House Judiciary Committee


Dan Calabrese reveals in his column that former general counsel and chief of staff of the House Judiciary Committee, Jerry Zeifman, indicated that he fired the 27 year old Hillary Rodham from the House Judiciary Committee staff and refused to give her a letter of recommendation due to her lying and unethical conduct. Zeifman said that during the Watergate investigation Hillary lied in a legal brief, them removed evidence from public access that would document her conduct. (Source)


2. Hillary Clinton lied about flying into Bosina under sniper fire


“I remember landing under sniper fire,” she said in Washington on Monday. “There was supposed to be some kind of a greeting ceremony at the airport, but instead we just ran with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base.”


News footage of the event however showed her claims to have been wide of the mark, and reporters who accompanied her stated that there was no sniper fire. Her account was ridiculed by ABC News as “like a scene from Saving Private Ryan”. (Source)


3. Hillary Clinton Misrepresented her Record opposing the Iraq War


In Eugene, Ore., Saturday, April 5, 2008, Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., attempted to change the measure by which anyone might assess who criticized the Iraq war first, her or Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., by saying those keeping records should start in January 2005, when Obama joined the Senate. (A measure that conveniently avoids her October 2002 vote to authorize use of force against Iraq at a time that Obama was speaking out against the war.) She claimed that using that measure, she criticized the war in Iraq before Obama did.


But Clinton’s claim was false. (Source)


4. Hillary Clinton Misrepresented her Role in the Irish Peace Accord


The historian Tim Pat Coogan told The Chicago Tribune: “It was a nice thing to see her there, with the women’s groups. It helped, I suppose. But it was ancillary to the main thing. It was part of the stage effects, the optics.” Former SDLP man Brian Feeney said pithily: “The road to peace was carefully documented, and she wasn’t on it.” (Source)


5. Hillary Clinton Misrepresented the extent to which her daughter was in danger on 9/11


Clinton said Chelsea had gone on “what she thought was going to be a great jog. She was going to go down to Battery Park, she was going to go around the towers. She went to get a cup of coffee and, and, that’s when the plane hit.”


Responding to a question about whether her daughter heard the “rumble,” Clinton said, “She did hear it.”


Weeks later, Chelsea Clinton told a magazine that she was in an apartment 12 blocks away when the first plane hit. A UPI article said she was outdoors closer to the site when “she heard the rumble of the second tower collapsing.” (Source)


6. Hillary Clinton Claimed she was named after Sir Edmund Hillary


During a stop in Nepal while on a south Asian goodwill tour in April 1995, First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton engaged in a brief (and reportedly coincidental) meeting with Sir Edmund Hillary (who, along with Tenzing Norgay, became the first person to reach the summit of the world’s highest mountain, Mt. Everest, in 1953) and told reporters she had been named after the famed mountain climber. The notion that Ms. Clinton’s given name was inspired by the man who conquered Everest was almost certainly a bit of fiction invented for political expediency (as many critics have noted, Edmund Hillary didn’t become world-famous until six years after Hillary Rodham was born). (Source)


7. Hillary Clinton Lied about supporting NAFTA


On November 1, 1996, United Press International reported that on a trip to Brownsville, Texas, Clinton “touted the president’s support for the North American Free Trade Agreement, saying it would reap widespread benefits in the region.”


The Associated Press followed up the next day noting that Hillary Clinton touted the fact that “the president would continue to support economic growth in South Texas through initiatives such as the North American Free Trade Agreement.”


In her memoir, Clinton wrote, “Senator Dole was genuinely interested in health care reform but wanted to run for president in 1996. He couldn’t hand incumbent Bill Clinton any more legislative victories, particularly after Bill’s successes on the budget, the Brady bill and NAFTA.”


Yes, we are all expected to just forget that, so that Hillary Clinton’s campaign can manufacture supposed “outrage” that anyone would say she supported NAFTA – all at a time her chief strategist, Mark Penn, simultaneously heads a firm that is right now pushing to expand NAFTA into South America.


Penn was recently fired by both Columbia and the Clinton campaign. (Source)


8. Hillary Clinton Lied about her role in the passage of the Family and Medical Leave Act


Her campaign Web site boasts that her record includes “helping to pass the Family and Medical Leave Act.”


But the bill was pushed in Congress for years and passed twice, only to be vetoed by former President George H.W. Bush. Congress passed it a third time as Bill Clinton took office. He signed it into law on Feb. 5, 1993, barely two weeks after he became president.


Hillary Clinton’s own White House schedules, recently released, make no mention of any meetings on the bill. (Source)


9. Hillary Clinton Lied about her trip to Africa


Speaking in Pennsylvania two weeks ago, Clinton introduced former U.S. Ambassador Joe Wilson. “He and I did travel together to Africa and, sort of, paved the way for the president’s trip the following year, which was historic,” Clinton said.


But Wilson didn’t accompany Clinton on her March 1997 trip to Africa. Wilson did accompany both Clintons on the president’s 1998 Africa visit.


“She made a mistake on that,” Wilson said. “She misspoke on that. I worked closely with her and her staff on the president’s trip, which she went on.”


The Clinton administration official who accompanied Clinton on her 1997 trip was Susan Rice, who’s now a senior foreign policy adviser to the Obama campaign. (Source)


10. Hillary Clinton Lied about the “uninsured” woman who died after childbirth


Over the last five weeks, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York has featured in her campaign stump speeches the story of a health care horror: an uninsured pregnant woman who lost her baby and died herself after being denied care by an Ohio hospital because she could not come up with a $100 fee.


The woman, Trina Bachtel, did die last August, two weeks after her baby boy was stillborn at O’Bleness Memorial Hospital in Athens, Ohio. But hospital administrators said Friday that Ms. Bachtel was under the care of an obstetrics practice affiliated with the hospital, that she was never refused treatment and that she was, in fact, insured…


Linda M. Weiss, a spokeswoman for the not-for-profit hospital, said the Clinton campaign had never contacted the hospital to check the accuracy of the story, which Mrs. Clinton had first heard from a Meigs County, Ohio, sheriff’s deputy in late February 2008.


A Clinton spokesman, Mo Elleithee, said candidates would frequently retell stories relayed to them, vetting them when possible. “In this case, we did try but were not able to fully vet it,” Mr. Elleithee said. “If the hospital claims it did not happen that way, we respect that. (Source)


April 7, 2008, Clinton partly vindicated.


Clinton erred in telling audiences that the Ohio woman lacked insurance when seeking help for her troubled pregnancy. But according to Casto’s account, Bachtel’s medical tragedy began with circumstances very close to the essence of Clinton’s now-abandoned account: the lack of insurance created a $100 barrier to needed medical attention close to home. (Source)
 
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List of 10 Verified Hillary Clinton Lies
You have to wonder exactly how many prevarications it will take for people to become aware that Hillary Clinton might have a something of a tiny little character flaw – like being a pathological liar – that will reflect negatively on her fitness to be president and commander-in-chief.


Presented for your enjoyment is a list of 10 of Hillary Clinton’s recent and past lies.


Note that this list doesn’t include any of the misrepresentations relating to any of the many scandals she was involved in when while in the White House.


1. Hillary Clinton lied as a staff member of the House Judiciary Committee


Dan Calabrese reveals in his column that former general counsel and chief of staff of the House Judiciary Committee, Jerry Zeifman, indicated that he fired the 27 year old Hillary Rodham from the House Judiciary Committee staff and refused to give her a letter of recommendation due to her lying and unethical conduct. Zeifman said that during the Watergate investigation Hillary lied in a legal brief, them removed evidence from public access that would document her conduct. (Source)


2. Hillary Clinton lied about flying into Bosina under sniper fire


“I remember landing under sniper fire,” she said in Washington on Monday. “There was supposed to be some kind of a greeting ceremony at the airport, but instead we just ran with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base.”


News footage of the event however showed her claims to have been wide of the mark, and reporters who accompanied her stated that there was no sniper fire. Her account was ridiculed by ABC News as “like a scene from Saving Private Ryan”. (Source)


3. Hillary Clinton Misrepresented her Record opposing the Iraq War


In Eugene, Ore., Saturday, April 5, 2008, Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., attempted to change the measure by which anyone might assess who criticized the Iraq war first, her or Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., by saying those keeping records should start in January 2005, when Obama joined the Senate. (A measure that conveniently avoids her October 2002 vote to authorize use of force against Iraq at a time that Obama was speaking out against the war.) She claimed that using that measure, she criticized the war in Iraq before Obama did.


But Clinton’s claim was false. (Source)


4. Hillary Clinton Misrepresented her Role in the Irish Peace Accord


The historian Tim Pat Coogan told The Chicago Tribune: “It was a nice thing to see her there, with the women’s groups. It helped, I suppose. But it was ancillary to the main thing. It was part of the stage effects, the optics.” Former SDLP man Brian Feeney said pithily: “The road to peace was carefully documented, and she wasn’t on it.” (Source)


5. Hillary Clinton Misrepresented the extent to which her daughter was in danger on 9/11


Clinton said Chelsea had gone on “what she thought was going to be a great jog. She was going to go down to Battery Park, she was going to go around the towers. She went to get a cup of coffee and, and, that’s when the plane hit.”


Responding to a question about whether her daughter heard the “rumble,” Clinton said, “She did hear it.”


Weeks later, Chelsea Clinton told a magazine that she was in an apartment 12 blocks away when the first plane hit. A UPI article said she was outdoors closer to the site when “she heard the rumble of the second tower collapsing.” (Source)


6. Hillary Clinton Claimed she was named after Sir Edmund Hillary


During a stop in Nepal while on a south Asian goodwill tour in April 1995, First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton engaged in a brief (and reportedly coincidental) meeting with Sir Edmund Hillary (who, along with Tenzing Norgay, became the first person to reach the summit of the world’s highest mountain, Mt. Everest, in 1953) and told reporters she had been named after the famed mountain climber. The notion that Ms. Clinton’s given name was inspired by the man who conquered Everest was almost certainly a bit of fiction invented for political expediency (as many critics have noted, Edmund Hillary didn’t become world-famous until six years after Hillary Rodham was born). (Source)


7. Hillary Clinton Lied about supporting NAFTA


On November 1, 1996, United Press International reported that on a trip to Brownsville, Texas, Clinton “touted the president’s support for the North American Free Trade Agreement, saying it would reap widespread benefits in the region.”


The Associated Press followed up the next day noting that Hillary Clinton touted the fact that “the president would continue to support economic growth in South Texas through initiatives such as the North American Free Trade Agreement.”


In her memoir, Clinton wrote, “Senator Dole was genuinely interested in health care reform but wanted to run for president in 1996. He couldn’t hand incumbent Bill Clinton any more legislative victories, particularly after Bill’s successes on the budget, the Brady bill and NAFTA.”


Yes, we are all expected to just forget that, so that Hillary Clinton’s campaign can manufacture supposed “outrage” that anyone would say she supported NAFTA – all at a time her chief strategist, Mark Penn, simultaneously heads a firm that is right now pushing to expand NAFTA into South America.


Penn was recently fired by both Columbia and the Clinton campaign. (Source)


8. Hillary Clinton Lied about her role in the passage of the Family and Medical Leave Act


Her campaign Web site boasts that her record includes “helping to pass the Family and Medical Leave Act.”


But the bill was pushed in Congress for years and passed twice, only to be vetoed by former President George H.W. Bush. Congress passed it a third time as Bill Clinton took office. He signed it into law on Feb. 5, 1993, barely two weeks after he became president.


Hillary Clinton’s own White House schedules, recently released, make no mention of any meetings on the bill. (Source)


9. Hillary Clinton Lied about her trip to Africa


Speaking in Pennsylvania two weeks ago, Clinton introduced former U.S. Ambassador Joe Wilson. “He and I did travel together to Africa and, sort of, paved the way for the president’s trip the following year, which was historic,” Clinton said.


But Wilson didn’t accompany Clinton on her March 1997 trip to Africa. Wilson did accompany both Clintons on the president’s 1998 Africa visit.


“She made a mistake on that,” Wilson said. “She misspoke on that. I worked closely with her and her staff on the president’s trip, which she went on.”


The Clinton administration official who accompanied Clinton on her 1997 trip was Susan Rice, who’s now a senior foreign policy adviser to the Obama campaign. (Source)


10. Hillary Clinton Lied about the “uninsured” woman who died after childbirth


Over the last five weeks, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York has featured in her campaign stump speeches the story of a health care horror: an uninsured pregnant woman who lost her baby and died herself after being denied care by an Ohio hospital because she could not come up with a $100 fee.


The woman, Trina Bachtel, did die last August, two weeks after her baby boy was stillborn at O’Bleness Memorial Hospital in Athens, Ohio. But hospital administrators said Friday that Ms. Bachtel was under the care of an obstetrics practice affiliated with the hospital, that she was never refused treatment and that she was, in fact, insured…


Linda M. Weiss, a spokeswoman for the not-for-profit hospital, said the Clinton campaign had never contacted the hospital to check the accuracy of the story, which Mrs. Clinton had first heard from a Meigs County, Ohio, sheriff’s deputy in late February 2008.


A Clinton spokesman, Mo Elleithee, said candidates would frequently retell stories relayed to them, vetting them when possible. “In this case, we did try but were not able to fully vet it,” Mr. Elleithee said. “If the hospital claims it did not happen that way, we respect that. (Source)


April 7, 2008, Clinton partly vindicated.


Clinton erred in telling audiences that the Ohio woman lacked insurance when seeking help for her troubled pregnancy. But according to Casto’s account, Bachtel’s medical tragedy began with circumstances very close to the essence of Clinton’s now-abandoned account: the lack of insurance created a $100 barrier to needed medical attention close to home. (Source)
I only note it's mostly "he said she said". I won't bother researching it. Carry on "one note johnny".
 
Well, you are wrong again. First is that it is so sad that nobody on the liberal side had the courage to go for the Presidency. Only one that I had hoped would go for the job. The VP seemed to me to be a good and honest one that had real potential. None of the others can make that type of impression to the voters.

And for my voting, I do sometimes vote with the liberal ones. Like the liberals, some of the conservatives need to be watched and ignored. I probably should be considered a swing voter, with not extremes on either side. I don't just trash out the liberals as some of the liberals do trash out ALL the conservatives without even knowing what that person may stand for. Not all conservatives are earning instant trash mouth responses. Not all liberals are either. And I don't do that. I try to be friendly with all on this forum. You included Jim. But too much of your posts are just sarcastic and unnecessary attacks on persons. I like it when many of your victims remain and try to get along with you and all others.
 
That may be true "under Kenyan law" but not under the law of the United States. The Presidential qualifications concern themselves only with OUR laws.

Thus, a birth certificate issued for the same individual in two places half-way around the world from each other proves that a new-born infant can be in two places at the same time. imp
 


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