The Gender Debate...

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It’s become an “article of trans faith” that there are “exactly 73 genders”, says Mary Wakefield in The Spectator. The fastest-growing subset is said to be “xenogender” – people who feel “more akin to animals or plants or foods than humans”.

There’s a girl on TikTok who explains very seriously that her gender is “bird” – specifically a cardinal, with “ey/em” pronouns. There’s a horse child who is taken out by school staff for gallops; “a boy dinosaur who is fed on strips of meat”. I’ve also found several people who “identify as cake”.

There is some disagreement in the community about how it feels to be cake, but in general I gather it’s a sort of “sweet, fluffy feeling; a lightness”. “No one who’s cake-gender can have tasted a cake I’ve baked.”
 

We debated this a couple of weeks ago Furryanimal, you must
have been busy with all the rugby on TV, anyway, it was about
Trans Gender and it has been moved to the last forum, called
The Underground.

Mike.
 
Mike said:
We debated this a couple of weeks ago Furryanimal, you must
have been busy with all the rugby on TV, anyway, it was about
Trans Gender and it has been moved to the last forum, called
The Underground.

Mike.
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Can't remember if I saw that😀
 

I remember a debate. I didn't follow it to completion, because I'm not really interested, but I gotta say... Bird is not a gender. In animal taxonomy, it is in a category called class; class Aves (birds). Identifying your gender as Bird is an extremely clever way of calling, "Nonsense," on the whole debate. But I do admire the girl/boy/whatever that came up with it. There is a certain intelligence involved in creating such non-gender gender to make a point, and give people in forums something to talk about.
 
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This is the article in "The Spectator":
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/is-your-child-a-cake/
Mary Wakefield criticizes the statement that 73 genders exist. She is right. In my opinion such a nonsense does harm to the LGBTQ movement and it's justified concerns. Someone who identifies his/her (or whatever pronoun) gender(!) as a bird, a horse or even a cake is a case for a mental asylum but not for a serious debate.
 
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JustDave said:
I remember a debate. I didn't follow it to completion, because I'm not really interested, but I gotta say... Bird is not a gender. In animal taxonomy, it is in a category called class; class Aves (birds). Identifying your gender as Bird is an extremely clever way of calling, "Nonsense," on the whole debate. But I do admire the girl/boy/whatever that came up with it. There is a certain intelligence involved in creating such non-gender gender to make a point, and give people in forums something to talk about.
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Right, and why a Cardinal and not a pigeon, it's like all the people who remember their past lives and they were always royalty never the scullery maid.

Also I thought dinosaurs were herbivores.


I believe people can feel like any gender or animal or light fixture they want to, I just don't know why the rest of us need to hear about it. I identify as a ninety pound, 20 year old ballerina but I don't make people watch me dance.
 
If the media wasn't covering this stupid BS we wouldn't even know about it, which is fine by me. It hurts women and LBGTQ. A load, that's what it is and it's being usurped by those who are calling it woke behavior when it has nothing to do with what woke actually means.
 
It gets very strange, indeed. In my visits to the “Otherkin” communities, there are also those who identify as “Star Seeds,” literary characters, or even as machines…yes, mechanical devices!

Now if a person identifying as “cake” be (heaven forbid) murdered, would the detective conducting the investigation wryly comment that “someone had their cake, and ate it, too?” 😸
 
JustDave said:
Wow, you seem to know a lot about pole dancing.
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I took it up some time ago after being informed I was too ancient to handle such a gruelling sport. Hmm. I had been dancing and doing T’ai Chi

since I was very young. The challenge appealed to me. My core, accustomed to belly dancing, coped rather well, but I hadn’t counted on the level of arm strength that would be required. I will never forget the first two

months. My arms hurt, and the bruises! Lol. I am so glad I persevered. Marvellous exercise, and so much fun! I can amuse myself pole dancing while wearing belly dancing attire.
 
Fyrefox said:
It gets very strange, indeed. In my visits to the “Otherkin” communities, there are also those who identify as “Star Seeds,” literary characters, or even as machines…yes, mechanical devices!

Now if a person identifying as “cake” be (heaven forbid) murdered, would the detective conducting the investigation wryly comment that “someone had their cake, and ate it, too?” 😸
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Well cake might not be too bad. After all, there could be cheese cake and beef cake. I would infer gender from that.
 
Furryanimal said:
The Gender Debate...
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I know my gender, no debate there. What others think or do is their own business, just so it doesn't impose much on me.
Shalimar said:
belly dancing
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The most memorable dancer I have seen was a highly skilled belly dancer in a Moroccan restaurant. She was middle aged, a bit on the heavy side and except for her not small belly mostly clad, but her moves were impressive. Not something I will not forget. Saw some flamenco dancers once who were a close second. I have seen pole dancers, and not that I didn't enjoy the view, but that's in a whole different category... not the dancing I remember...
 
This self-identification debate makes me think of the British born Oli London. Otherwise known as Oliver James Squire.

He identifies himself as being Korean, and has had plastic surgery to help with his transition into a Korean. Apparently, he fell in love with the K-pop star, Jimin, and married a life size cardboard cut-out of Jimin in Las Vegas.

Later, he got divorced from cardboard Jimin, citing ‘irreconcilable differences’. I couldn’t help wondering whether it would have been simpler & quicker to have gotten a divorce based on ‘non-consummation of marriage’?

This then got me thinking. I thought maybe the marriage was consummated, & that’s why he went with irreconcilable differences instead? Obviously I then wondered, if it was consummated, then how did the logistics of it work? I then wondered whether he & his cardboard cut-out swopped gender rolls every so often, & how that might work in the bedroom? You think I’m kidding? – I’m being serious!

I explained the above to my team at work. After a short while they just stood there with their mouths open, staring at me.

It’s pondering things like this that keeps me awake at night.
 
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Sunny said:
Well, that cardboard thing is not too far removed from the movie "Her," where a guy falls in love with the AI voice on his phone, sort of like Siri.

But the marital consummation part might be difficult. Better to stick with the low-tech option.
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Agree, keep things simple & traditional:

Always go with the cardboard cut-out option as opposed to a modern communication device. Especially when taking into consideration any wedding photo options.

The first dance at the wedding reception might be a bit challenging.

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