The Kyle Rittenhouse Trial: What Will Be the Outcome?

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For those of you following the Kyle Rittenhouse trial, what do you think will be the verdict and if found guilty of any of the charges, what will be his sentence?

Closing arguments begin on Monday. After that, it's up to the jury for the verdict and then the judge will decide his sentence.
 

IMO, he is responsible for the deaths. He went to Kenosha at his own accord. He illegally armed himself with an assault style weapon, and went looking for trouble.
I hope they will find him guilty of at least manslaughter. When you knowingly go into a situation of unrest, you are just looking for trouble.
 

Can I just intercept for a second and take this slightly off topic.. and say if this guy gets off free.. when in fact he travelled across the state border full armed, underage, and then killed people... then it's an absolute travesty that this should have happened in the UK today...

Two brothers who believed Covid jabs were part of a conspiracy to turn people into "unthinking beings" have been jailed for buying a firearm.
Carlisle Crown Court heard Harry Wilson, 24, from Kendal, ordered a Glock 19 pistol which was intercepted by police and replaced with a replica.
In a covert recording heard by the court Ashley Wilson, 27, said: "This is good, innit? Order another."
Judge Andrew Jefferies QC said the response was "excited and immature".
Prosecutor Chloe Fordham told the court the pair "held extreme views about there being a conspiracy by the elite to have the general population vaccinated against Covid in order to infect them with a substance which would kill the God particle in humans and turn them into unthinking beings".
As part of the theory this "elite" wanted to reset the economy, resulting in worldwide food shortages which would require them to defend themselves and their property, she said.

'Quite extraordinary case'​

Harry Wilson paid for the pistol, a Glock magazine and 50 rounds of ammunition with cryptocurrency but the parcel was intercepted by law enforcement agencies in the United States.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cumbria-59274090
 
Jackie23 said:
I agree with bowman and I think the Judge was heavy handed with his rulings to the Prosecutor.
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From what little I've read and a clip I saw, the judge has a career reputation of being tough on lawyers and the lead prosecutor is by no means a hotshot ...came across as a whiner in the clip I watched. It's not fair that appearance impacts jurors but it does and the prosecutor looks dorky and sounds that way at times. It's looking like Rittenhouse got lucky in the people involved in this trial. I don't think he'll be found guilty of the homicide charges, but if it's a hung jury, he'll face another trial.
 
helenbacque said:
I think he will be shown leniency because he is young and illiterate. Judge appears to be sympathetic.
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The concern will be if he is shown leniency how is that going to prevent other potential murders in the name of defence carried out by under 18 year old illiterates... ( rhetorical question ) I'm sure the prisons are full of illiterate murderers.. why would this young man be any different to them..

That boy knew exactly what he was doing when he took that full loaded gun to a another state to join a protest..IMO...
 
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hollydolly said:
The concern will be if he is shown leniency how is that going to prevent other potential murders in the name of defence carried out by under 18 year old illiterates... ( rhetorical question ) I'm sure the priosns are full of illiterate murderers.. why would this young man be any different to them..

That boy knew exactly what he was doing when he took that full loaded gun to a another state to join a protest..IMO...
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:) I didn't say it was the right thing to do. I only gave my opinion of trial outcome.:)
 
The court hasn't completely decided on the full scope of charges, with potential lesser charges being presented to the jury. Will the jury convict on the top counts or shift to conviction on some of the lesser counts?

I doubt the top counts will hold, and the outcome will be completely unsatisfactory for some. TV news will have their visual moments, imo.
 
bowmore said:
IMO, he is responsible for the deaths. He went to Kenosha at his own accord. He illegally armed himself with an assault style weapon, and went looking for trouble.
I hope they will find him guilty of at least manslaughter. When you knowingly go into a situation of unrest, you are just looking for trouble.
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I assume you feel the same about the 3 thugs (2 down) who also went looking for trouble. (oh yeah... and old 1 arm was also armed).
 
Harry Le Hermit said:
The court hasn't completely decided on the full scope of charges, with potential lesser charges being presented to the jury. Will the jury convict on the top counts or shift to conviction on some of the lesser counts?

I doubt the top counts will hold, and the outcome will be completely unsatisfactory for some. TV news will have their visual moments, imo.
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In a shocking admission on Friday, the prosecution said that because of the evidence presented in the case “a reasonable jury or juror” could acquit Rittenhouse on the most serious charges that he faces.
Therefore.......... Wisconsin’s Assistant District Attorney James Kraus acknowledged the slim prospects for a guilty verdict as he indicated the state’s intentions to switch out Rittenhouse’s current charges with “a multitude of lesser charges” for the jury to come to a decision on. So, if we can't get a real conviction, let's try for an easier one.
 
ohioboy said:
That does not mean a charge of attempted murder exists for the person pointing it.
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Missing the point obviously. If you were to say try to run somebody over with your car, but missed... would that be attempted murder? Aiming a gun at someone whether you pull the trigger or not would get you an attempted murder charge in the real world.
 
squatting dog said:
Missing the point obviously. If you were to say try to run somebody over with your car, but missed... would that be attempted murder? Aiming a gun at someone whether you pull the trigger or not would get you an attempted murder charge in the real world.
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..but he didn't miss, because he didn't fire. If your car is pointed in the direction of another car but not actually moving, does it give the car in the opposite direction the right to crash into you.. ?.. same scenario... :unsure:
 
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Irwin said:
The Kyle Rittenhouse Trial: What Will Be the Outcome?
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Kyle Rittenhouse, oh is that the punk kid that has a freakin' assault rifle shooting people at some public demonstration? He is the darling of the domestic terrorists, he'll likely get a slap on the wrist because you know he was just protecting himself against the unarmed demonstrators.
His parents should be prosecuted no only for the murders but for child neglect.

hollydolly said:
The concern will be if he is shown leniency how is that going to prevent other potential murders in the name of defence carried out by under 18 year old illiterates... ( rhetorical question ) I'm sure the prisons are full of illiterate murderers.. why would this young man be any different to them..

That boy knew exactly what he was doing when he took that full loaded gun to a another state to join a protest..IMO...
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Rittenhouse would thrive in prison, he would be right at home, he could join with the Aryan Brotherhood, or any one of several similar racial affiliated prison gangs.
 
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squatting dog said:
So, if we can't get a real conviction, let's try for an easier one.
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The defense has to agree to the lesser charges as well. It is all about that unbiased jury of peers and reasonable doubt, which varies by individual. Unbiased does not mean unaware of the social fabric of the community or it wouldn't be a jury of peers and they are not machines. They would not be unaware of the consequences of the verdict rendered and the possible consequences for each of them.

Lesser charges would take a hung jury off the table, which is likely what the jury would prefer at this point, imo.
 
Nathan said:
Kyle Rittenhouse, oh is that the punk kid that has a freakin' assault rifle shooting people at some public demonstration? He is the darling of the domestic terrorists, he'll likely get a slap on the wrist because you know he was just protecting himself against the unarmed demonstrators.
His parents should be prosecuted no only for the murders but for child neglect.
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Actually tbh.. I have to say that watching this trial , I was actually getting annoyed at the mother who sat their blubbing in the court at her 'poor boy being told off'...... I kept saying , if she'd raised him properly or at least kept an eye on what and who he was involved in, she might not be sitting there knowing her 'baby' was a killer
 

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