Go an read what I have written, again hollydolly!
I wrote:
Charles is the oldest son, so he is the one, if he died first, then his brother
Andrew would be next, but changes have been made and the line established
a few years ago,
Mike.
The Queen - why is she not retiring?
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I wrote:
Charles is the oldest son, so he is the one, if he died first, then his brother
Andrew would be next, but changes have been made and the line established
a few years ago,
Mike.
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Your still saying Andrew would be King if Charles died, he would not...
You are correct, Holly, and, if 7,000,497,037 of the Queens decendants (heirs) suddenly snuffed it, the UK could be looking at the prospect of King Tim 1st, and, I'd proclaim an annual helping of ice cream to all my subjects, double portions for over 70s.
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Thank goodness for small mercies.
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Can you imagine.... ?
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Beautiful photo of the Queen in 1952...
..and her grandaughter-in-law.. Catherine.. wearing those same earrings.. at the funeral of Prince Philip last year...
..and her grandaughter-in-law.. Catherine.. wearing those same earrings.. at the funeral of Prince Philip last year...
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He has children.... and I think we can settle it ourselves being British.. thanks
I know, that was just to illustrate to Mike that Andrew has no chance of being king.
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Mike ??
My wife is a beautiful English rose.He has children.... and I think we can settle it ourselves being British.. thanks
I know that Andrew will never be King (thank God),even if
Charles had to go before his mother, my post must be worded
wrongly to cause such confusion, before the recent changes
were made, under those conditions, he would have been made
king, but nobody really fancied him, so new rules were made
that brought the Monarchy into the 21st century, even having
women in the line in their rightful position, this would mean
that Princess Anne would be after Charles, but she obviously
doesn't want the job, so, without Charles in the mix, it will be,
Prince William, Prince George, Princess Charlotte, Prince Louis,
Prince Harry, another who has taken himself out of favour, but
is still on the list.
Mike
Charles had to go before his mother, my post must be worded
wrongly to cause such confusion, before the recent changes
were made, under those conditions, he would have been made
king, but nobody really fancied him, so new rules were made
that brought the Monarchy into the 21st century, even having
women in the line in their rightful position, this would mean
that Princess Anne would be after Charles, but she obviously
doesn't want the job, so, without Charles in the mix, it will be,
Prince William, Prince George, Princess Charlotte, Prince Louis,
Prince Harry, another who has taken himself out of favour, but
is still on the list.
Mike
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Her extreme longevity must put her son, Charles, in a lifelong difficult and awkward position. (Not that I'm any big fan of his, from what I've seen and read.) But whether you like him or not, there's something strange about a man living his whole life in the expectation that he will someday be king, and if it does happen, he will obviously be quite old (and ready for retirement! And to my American mind, there's something vaguely creepy and archaic about the whole idea of primogeniture.
Of course, the political power of the UK lies with the Prime Minister and the elected Parliament, so the whole royal thing by now is mainly symbolic and emotional, or so it seems to me.
I'll probably never have the real answer to my original question, but I'm sure there are reasons within reasons for her hanging on. We'll never get the real answer. (Unless Harry and Meghan decide to write a book?)
Of course, the political power of the UK lies with the Prime Minister and the elected Parliament, so the whole royal thing by now is mainly symbolic and emotional, or so it seems to me.
I'll probably never have the real answer to my original question, but I'm sure there are reasons within reasons for her hanging on. We'll never get the real answer. (Unless Harry and Meghan decide to write a book?)
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Even as a child, I have had a deep respect for the United Kingdom. This was influenced by my early understanding of how they stood ALONE, against the Nazi attempt to take over the world. We finally came in after Pearl Harbor was bombed. Together with other allies we defeated the Axis powers, but if England had not 'Stood Strong' things may not of went down as they did. For sure many more lives would have been lost.
In her lifetime Queen Elizabeth ll showed much of the strength and character that was demonstrated during the war. My wife and I have followed her over the years and at this point in our lives, we have an extreme amount of respect and reverence for who she is and what she has accomplished in her lifetime. God Save the Queen!
In her lifetime Queen Elizabeth ll showed much of the strength and character that was demonstrated during the war. My wife and I have followed her over the years and at this point in our lives, we have an extreme amount of respect and reverence for who she is and what she has accomplished in her lifetime. God Save the Queen!
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Sorry, Timewise, but I lost two uncles in WWII in 1942 - one flying for the Royal Air Force in north Africa and the other stationed in Malaya when the Japanese swept down on their way to Singapore.
Immediately after Britain declared war on Germany for invading Poland, the Australian PM informed the Australian people that we were also at war with Germany. Britain was not alone even though much of Europe was occupied. The Commonwealth countries, known then as the Dominions, came to her aid as they had in WW I.
I do agree with your point about Britain (not just England) standing strong. The determination they showed was amazing. The Ukrainians are showing the same grit today.
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First, Warriga, I am sorry for the losses your family suffered in the war.
Our family was lucky, my father was wounded in Germany on April 16, 1945. He was in Patton's third army. He had two older brother who also fought in Europe, all were wounded, but all survived their wounds.
Forgive me, I wrote the 'United Kingdom' I should have referred to the British Commonwealth. Over the years I have read many books on the war. I am always amazed at the 'Grit' that generation had. I often wonder if our youth today, would rise up and stand strong, as our past generations....I fear not!
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You are forgiven, Timewise. I am very interested in the history of past wars and I am aware that Australia is not on the radar very much in countries north of the equator but the contributions of Canadians ought to be well known to their southern neighbours.
My grandfather volunteered for the Boer war when Queen Victoria was still alive and later he (and one of this brothers) volunteered again for WW I serving in the Light Horse in Palestine. In the second world war, besides the uncles who died, my father volunteered and served in New Guinea, his younger brother, also in the RAAF, was in Darwin during the Japanese bombing raids and the oldest brother served in the Australian version of the Home Guard. In every case their motivation was to aid what was then considered to be the Mother Country.
My grandfather volunteered for the Boer war when Queen Victoria was still alive and later he (and one of this brothers) volunteered again for WW I serving in the Light Horse in Palestine. In the second world war, besides the uncles who died, my father volunteered and served in New Guinea, his younger brother, also in the RAAF, was in Darwin during the Japanese bombing raids and the oldest brother served in the Australian version of the Home Guard. In every case their motivation was to aid what was then considered to be the Mother Country.
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They already wrote a book it was full of BS
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I think it never occurred to the Queen to retire.
If it wasn't for the Commonwealth, or Dominions, we in Britain
would all be speaking German, thanks to your ancestors who
didn't have to learn it.
We are grateful and the USA came in at a later stage, but they
did supply arms.
The Queen was a soldier in the WWll, she was trained as a motor
mechanic and as an ambulance driver, so she has a driving licence
from the war, she can also fix her car if it breaks down, not that
she would have to.
The fact that she was in the army during the war might also be a
reason for her to keep going, the stiff upper lip and the get-up
and go attitude, are attributes that are difficult to shake off, if you
are trained at an early age, that training sticks better and stronger,
than anything else that you might learn after that time.
So she is still defending us all.
Mike.
would all be speaking German, thanks to your ancestors who
didn't have to learn it.
We are grateful and the USA came in at a later stage, but they
did supply arms.
The Queen was a soldier in the WWll, she was trained as a motor
mechanic and as an ambulance driver, so she has a driving licence
from the war, she can also fix her car if it breaks down, not that
she would have to.
The fact that she was in the army during the war might also be a
reason for her to keep going, the stiff upper lip and the get-up
and go attitude, are attributes that are difficult to shake off, if you
are trained at an early age, that training sticks better and stronger,
than anything else that you might learn after that time.
So she is still defending us all.
Mike.
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Mike...you said it best! Thanks for giving that perspective...
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Your family sure stepped up as needed! Something to be proud of I say...
My wife's father, served in the Army Aircorp and was stationed in Australia and then sent into the New Guinea campaign. He was an officer and was not wounded, but he did get malaria, which made him sterile. My wife is adopted. He died a couple of years ago at 100 and was clear of mind right up until he passed. He was a real gentleman, we miss him a lot!