The Science - autopsies from covid-19 vaccinations

Fact of the matter here is this: the origins of COVID are still being disputed in various parts of the world. Also, is it man made or not man made? There are so many different publications about all this, it is hard to find two that are totally alike. The original OP's article on Dr. Cole brought to mind about the polio vaccine when it was released to the public. Between 1950 and 1962 or 63, it was found to contain contaminated parts of a monkey's kidney. This in turn, caused fatal brain tumors and other cancers after tons of research. Salk's vaccine was recalled for that batch and a new one released, with no further problems. So, Dr. Cole no doubt used his knowledge of what can happen with vaccines in his video. It does make one pause since the COVID vaccine came to fruition as rapidly as it has. I had COVID-19 and it was an horrendous experience. Later, I was vaccinated as I live in an assisted living facility and it was mandatory. Now, I have learned that I still have antibodies and did not require vaccination at all. However, my pulmonologist disagrees with that and is insisting I have the booster as soon as it becomes available. No two doctors can agree as my cardiologist says it is not necessary. So, in conclusion; all this fuss and much ado about it all is getting no one anywhere at all. Just hope and pray you never get it.
 
Sunny said:
Where I live, mostly among sane people, we are really anxious to get the booster shot, as soon as possible. Unless we are immunocompromised, we have to wait 8 months after our second shot of Pfizer. I don't think the Moderna booster is out yet.

The booster shots for any disease do exactly what the name says, they boost our immune response to a disease. What is so bad about that? Ladybj, you sound like you are terrified about receiving a shot. Even one that could save your life!

At the risk of restating the obvious, they didn't mention a booster at the beginning because nobody knew anything yet about the disease, the vaccine, whether a booster would be available or advisable, or much else about it. It was all brand new. It is ridiculous to use the newness and the amazing speed with which this life-saving vaccine was developed, as an argument against it! We should be praising the researchers to the heavens!

What are the anti-vaxxers so afraid of? Enough to take horse de-worming medicine instead? Truly mind-boggling.
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TERRIFIED.....OH NO!!!!!! If anything I find that (some) people that have received the vaccine are not ready to handle info that come their way about the side effects. My hubby took the vaccine - I pray he do not continue to lose weight. He has had several test done... which all were nornal...is it due to the vaccine - one will never know. I pray he do not continue to lose more. I took the flu shot many years ago..that was my first and last time and thankfully, has not had the flu and that's been over 30 years. Being that you are not in my shoes you will not understand and I am not in yours..therefore we will not be on the page which is ok. Terrified, no. Common sense for my health, absolutely.
 
Lewkat said:
Fact of the matter here is this: the origins of COVID are still being disputed in various parts of the world. Also, is it man made or not man made? There are so many different publications about all this, it is hard to find two that are totally alike. The original OP's article on Dr. Cole brought to mind about the polio vaccine when it was released to the public. Between 1950 and 1962 or 63, it was found to contain contaminated parts of a monkey's kidney. This in turn, caused fatal brain tumors and other cancers after tons of research. Salk's vaccine was recalled for that batch and a new one released, with no further problems. So, Dr. Cole no doubt used his knowledge of what can happen with vaccines in his video. It does make one pause since the COVID vaccine came to fruition as rapidly as it has. I had COVID-19 and it was an horrendous experience. Later, I was vaccinated as I live in an assisted living facility and it was mandatory. Now, I have learned that I still have antibodies and did not require vaccination at all. However, my pulmonologist disagrees with that and is insisting I have the booster as soon as it becomes available. No two doctors can agree as my cardiologist says it is not necessary. So, in conclusion; all this fuss and much ado about it all is getting no one anywhere at all. Just hope and pray you never get it.
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I live in an assisted living and it is not mandatory. I have watched several fellow residents who were fully faxed get Covid. Two have died.
 
Warrigal said:
When the refrigerated trucks were lined up outside hospitals because the morgues were full, there was no vaccine available and no-one had any immunity to the novel corona virus. Now there are a number of different vaccines on offer and the major part of the population has been fully or partially immunised. Could that be why the refrigerated trucks are not necessary this time round?
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Article from Newsweek published 2 weeks ago.

Oregon Counties Join Rush for COVID Morgue Trucks as Delta Variant Rages​

https://www.newsweek.com/oregon-counties-join-rush-covid-morgue-trucks-delta-variant-rages-1624031

"Oregon has seen a 990 percent increase in coronavirus hospitalizations since July, the New York Times reported. Earlier this week, the state joined Florida, Arkansas and Louisiana in having more people hospitalized with COVID than ever since the pandemic began.

"Oregon isn't the only state struggling with rising COVID deaths. Last week, Texas requested five mortuary trailers from the federal government in preparation for more deceased patients."

In central Florida, hospitals have also been forced to order mobile morgues to help deal with the overflow of COVID-19 deaths. This week, Advent Health had to order 14 portable morgues to help make room for an additional 168 bodies."
 
Our infection numbers are much less that US which is not surprising.
Our population is only just over 25 million.
However in some areas our hospital system is feeling the strain.
We haven't had to resort to mortuary trailers yet but the ambulances and paramedics are having to wait for admission outside hospitals for hours. Beds are getting scarce. The number of sick from covid, on top of all the other emergencies, is the reason for the lengthy ramping and the delays being experienced after calling for an ambulance.

People who are positive with covid but not too sick are being treated and supported at home. They are only admitted to a hospital when they start having breathing difficulties. Several have deteriorated so quickly that they died at home. Probably not the worst outcome IMO but not good for the other members of the family living in the same house.

Some young children are being admitted to hospital simply because their parents are infected and too sick to look after themselves, let alone the children.

From my POV, it will be a great day when people aren't getting infected, when ambulances aren't spending hours off the road waiting for hospitals to admit their patients and when people are able to travel freely at home and abroad.

How far away that day is depends on all of us coming together to fight a virus.
 

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