The US stands alone re: virus spread

Ronni

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From the New York Times


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In China, Japan, South Korea and several other Asian countries, the virus is under even better control than in Europe or Canada. In the chart above, lines for those Asian countries would be barely indistinguishable from the zero line.
 

The reason I said we may have a 4th on quarantine soon is because one of them was hanging out with the other one & that ones mom went to church & got it.
 
Oh believe me Star...I am. If I get it because of their recklessness I'm gonna be beyond pissed. They make fun of me for distancing & keep telling me I don't have to wear my mask in the back but I won't crack.
 
And now Trump has mandated HHS (Health and Human Services) to reroute hospital data on COVID patients to the White House, not the CDC.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/14/us/politics/trump-cdc-coronavirus.html
"But the instructions to hospitals in the department guidance are explicit and underscored: “As of July 15, 2020, hospitals should no longer report the Covid-19 information in this document to the National Healthcare Safety Network site,” the C.D.C.’s system for gathering data from more than 25,000 medical centers around the country.

"Public health experts have long expressed concerns that the Trump administration is politicizing science and undermining its health experts, in particular the C.D.C.; four of the agency’s former directors, spanning both Republican and Democratic administrations, said as much in an opinion piece published Tuesday in The Washington Post. The data collection shift reinforced those fears."


Gee, wonder what will happen to the numbers? I foresee a spectacular drop in cases (reported cases anyway) and far less transparency.
The direction of this country scares the s*** out of me.
I could understand having them report to both the WH and CDC, but exclusively to the WH IMO spells cover-up.

I agree StarSong its frightening the direction our country is spiraling into. So sad. 😢
 
I could understand having them report to both the WH and CDC, but exclusively to the WH IMO spells cover-up.

I agree StarSong its frightening the direction our country is spiraling into. So sad. 😢
I wonder if various (blue) states will call the WH out if they report false statistics.
 
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It's almost like a fatal mental illness has overtaken a large part of this nation. Denial of reality. Suicidal behavior. (And even worse, dangerous to other people as well). Declaring the health of the business community to be more important than the health and lives of people. Belief in religion, magic, superstition, tribal loyalty, instead of science. Proclaiming honest reporting of the facts to be "fake news."

If this were a dystopian science fiction horror story, we'd shrug and say, "Nah."

Forget the "almost like" in my first sentence. It is a mental illness.

Marci, I feel for you. Take care.
 
July 15, 2020
With the plague (not a pandemic) surging in Texas, the 'officials' remain adamant:
'Schools will open, expect for 1-4 grades.'
Seems were going to kill off all the kids first, then who?
Are old people on the list?
 
July 15, 2020
With the plague (not a pandemic) surging in Texas, the 'officials' remain adamant:
'Schools will open, expect for 1-4 grades.'
Seems were going to kill off all the kids first, then who?
Are old people on the list?
It'll be the teachers :(.....just posted a topic on that named 'three Arizona teachers who shared a classroom'.
 
And now Trump has mandated HHS (Health and Human Services) to reroute hospital data on COVID patients to the White House, not the CDC.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/14/us/politics/trump-cdc-coronavirus.html
"But the instructions to hospitals in the department guidance are explicit and underscored: “As of July 15, 2020, hospitals should no longer report the Covid-19 information in this document to the National Healthcare Safety Network site,” the C.D.C.’s system for gathering data from more than 25,000 medical centers around the country.

"Public health experts have long expressed concerns that the Trump administration is politicizing science and undermining its health experts, in particular the C.D.C.; four of the agency’s former directors, spanning both Republican and Democratic administrations, said as much in an opinion piece published Tuesday in The Washington Post. The data collection shift reinforced those fears."


Gee, wonder what will happen to the numbers? I foresee a spectacular drop in cases (reported cases anyway) and far less transparency.
The direction of this country scares the s*** out of me.
"Scares" is the right word. Now the Trump administration controls the data. Incredible that such such a move will not be met with a wall of objection.
 
July 15, 2020
With the plague (not a pandemic) surging in Texas, the 'officials' remain adamant:
'Schools will open, expect for 1-4 grades.'
Seems were going to kill off all the kids first, then who?
Are old people on the list?
Are you suggesting that the plague (as in bubonic or black) is also currently widely active in Texas :eek:, or are you framing the COVID-19 pandemic as a plague?
 
The "reaction" to this virus, in the U.S., has been minimal, at best, and the numbers are showing the result. Millions of our people seem to think that they are not at risk, and have failed to follow the mask and distancing recommendations, and now we are quite likely going into another spike of this illness.

Some of the major retailers just announced a mandatory "mask" policy for shoppers, but the damage has already been done, as many States have been reluctant to impose any "restrictions" on their populations. There is an increasing possibility that many of these States may have to institute another "lockdown", which will only exacerbate the economic impacts with increased unemployment, etc.

The hospitals, in some States, are quickly reaching their limits, and supplies of PPE, etc., are again facing shortages. There just isn't any Good news about this virus, and Only if everyone begins to take it seriously will there be a chance of reversing the numbers.
 
DonM stated, "The "reaction" to this virus, in the U.S., has been minimal, at best, and the numbers are showing the result. Millions of our people seem to think that they are not at risk, and have failed to follow the mask and distancing recommendations, and now we are quite likely going into another spike of this illness. "

I agree with every word that Don wrote, BUT, where did the "millions" get this idea that the virus was a minor problem? Most reputable health experts that I've heard, here in the U.S. and throughout most of the world seem to have considered it to be a dire threat and in most other countries have managed put in place, measures to control it.

Is there something they know that we don't ( ??) or are we, as a nation, less intelligent than these other populations ?
 
I agree with every word that Don wrote, BUT, where did the "millions" get this idea that the virus was a minor problem? Most reputable health experts that I've heard, here in the U.S. and throughout most of the world seem to have considered it to be a dire threat and in most other countries have managed put in place, measures to control it.

Is there something they know that we don't ( ??) or are we, as a nation, less intelligent than these other populations ?

Assuming you already know the answer to the questions you've posed.
 
I’m just really disgusted at seeing so many adult Americans acting like spoiled selfish petulant brats that don’t care who dies as long as they get their jollies. People who are whining that they are ‘tired of the virus” and “want to live their own lives” not caring if they endanger themselves or anyone else, INCLUDING THE PROFESSIONALS WOULD BE STUCK TAKING CARE OF THEM.
 


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