The War With Isis Can Never Be Won

John C said:
As long as our country remains paralyzed by political correctness, no problem can be solved.
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I agree... Everyone should be free to insult and humiliate anyone else... or any other group... AND because of our gun laws.. anyone should be free to blow the hell out of someone who insults them.. because.. I would guess they would feel threatened. and as you say.. the problem would be solved. . Utopia.. doncha think?
 
Lon said:
The War With Isis Can Never Be Won


Until the Isis Belief System and the rewards of Martyrdom are totally discredited Isis will continue to grow and appeal to some Muslims as well as non Muslims, but who will effectively be able to do the discrediting, and do it in a manner that Isis members themselves will believe the discrediting?

I don't advocate this, but until every Muslim on earth ceases to exist this so called war will never end
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Of course you are advocating this or you wouldn't say it. I am ashamed to admit I have a relative who wishes all 1.5 billion Muslims would disappear. She thinks every single one of them are terrorists and out to get her. And she thinks she's going to heaven because she goes to Catholic mass every Sunday. Hypocrite.

Any guesses as to what percentage of these 1.5 Billion Muslims is a terrorist? Pretty damn tiny.
 
John C said:
As long as our country remains paralyzed by political correctness, no problem can be solved.
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Yes John, in my country also, every conversation is like "treading on eggshells" for fear of "disrespecting". Whatever next, the "Thought Police" perhaps ??
 
Meringue said:
Yes John, in my country also, every conversation is like "treading on eggshells" for fear of "disrespecting". Whatever next, the "Thought Police" perhaps ??
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Just what the heck is it you people want to be able to say? Seriously... you claim you are foced to be politically correct... So my question is.. what is it you want to say that you are being told you can't? If you mean you are no longer allowed to make bigotted and insulting remarks against someone.. or against another group.. then I contend that's a Good thing.
 
Hmmm. Canada has strict hate speech laws, yet successfully manages to live in a multicultural society. We have ten Muslim members of parliament in our new federal government. Our Muslim leaders speak out against ISIL, and others of their ilk.

Terrorists seek to divide us in order to promote their armageddon. If we permit them to terrify us into demonising all our Muslim brothers and sisters in the name of security, they have already won. Not in my name. I will stand up for the innocent,

including those unfairly targeted by Islamophobia. I refuse to live in a world without humanity.
 
Shalimar said:
Hmmm. Canada has strict hate speech laws, yet successfully manages to live in a multicultural society. We have ten Muslim members of parliament in our new federal government. Our Muslim leaders speak out against ISIL, and others of their ilk.

Terrorists seek to divide us in order to promote their armageddon. If we permit them to terrify us into demonising all our Muslim brothers and sisters in the name of security, they have already won. Not in my name. I will stand up for the innocent,

including those unfairly targeted by Islamophobia. I refuse to live in a world without humanity.
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Agree.

During the Gulf War in 1990/91 my 19 year old son was fighting there. In the TN university where I worked there was an Iraqi woman who worked in the same building. Her son was also fighting. Whenever we would pass each other in the hallway we'd ask about the well-being of each other's sons. We were the same - mothers worrying about our sons.
 
Lon said:
The War With Isis Can Never Be Won

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I don't advocate this, but until every Muslim on earth ceases to exist this so called war will never end
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"Oh my gosh, you didn't actually say this did you? Are you seriously advocating genocide? Then you better advocate genocide for every Jew, every Christian.....because there are nut cases among those groups too." After reading the posts following that very badly worded post, I am retracting my question and will only remind you that words used (or not used) matter incredibly.

Shalimar said:
I believe when the root causes of terrorism are addressed, terrorism will dissipate considerably. Until then, we apply band aids of one kind or another. Some believe the west culpable to some degree in the creation of ISIL. World powers have a tendency to favour short term expediency over long term sensibility. It almost always ends badly.
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After all my reading and video watching of numerous websites and bypassing the propaganda of the mainstream media, I am one of those who fully believes that the West is responsible for the chaos that is Syria today and the thousands of refugees on the move from that country, from Libya and from Iraq and the US administration has been the primary instigator.

If the West really wanted to get rid of terrorism they would have welcomed Russia's proactive and effective campaign, they would have reined in Turkey when that country was bombing the Kurds (who have been successful at fighting ISIS on the ground), they would have insisted that the Saudi's, Qatar and Israel quit supporting ISIS and every other terrorist and they would not be arming terrorists. But instead, they waffled, hemmed and hawed and refused to work together and continued arming terrorists by recently dropping 50 tonnes of ammunition and weapons in the desert, despite having written off $500,000.00 of tax payers money that was supposed to develop an army of terrorists to fight a legitimate government in Syria. http://www.globalresearch.ca/israel...supporting-al-qaeda-and-isis-in-syria/5464484

I'm sorry to all my American friends here for offending you by saying these things, but you are not your government and they have hijacked your country's name and reputation for the sake of an agenda that does not include peace and stability among nations. It is more about controlling the very product that is devastating our planet (not to mention the billions of dollars that it brings) and taking care of their 'friends' who have that product. I may be one of few very outspoken people on this side and on this site, but there are millions of people around the world who are saying exactly the same thing. The only reason your government didn't decide to bomb the crap out of Syria when Assad was accused of using chemical weapons is because Russia stepped in using diplomacy and because you citizens said no to another war with another country in the Middle East. You have power, you have to continue using it to force our governments to actively use diplomacy to find peace instead of just loading up another round of bombs.
 
John C said:
I've never understood this thing about eating pork. Vegetarianism is rational; you don't want animals killed and eaten. I suppose there is a history to it, but science and common sense indicates nothing will happen to you if you eat a good barbecue pork sandwich. It's like going back to the Dark Ages or to a time when science and logic were not considered.
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It's a biblical teaching.
 
That's right QS. No eating piggies which coming out of a predominantly vegetarian church culture wasn't hard to do. I think the Bible says that only the only cloven hoofed animal that was allowed to be eaten were those which 'chewed the cud' and pigs don't. The Adventist church generally takes OT admonitions pretty literally.
 
I've always understood that the religious prohibition concerning eating pork arose from the observation that people got sick when eating it.

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I am very familiar with SDA... Also no shellfish allowed..only fish with scales are allowed. No caffeine or any sort of stimulant. Some of the old timers didn't even allow pepper to be used as a seasoning as it was thought to be a stimulant. SDA dietary restrictions are very much like the Hebrew... except I don't believe they have to separate meat and dairy.. or keep kosher.
 
tnthomas said:
I've always understood that the religious prohibition concerning eating pork arose from the observation that people got sick when eating it.

Trichinosis
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No, I think that back in the days of creation and the wandering Hebrews, there wasn't an understanding of disease like that and it was purely an OT Biblical instruction from the 'big guy'.
 
AZ Jim said:
Lon, the problem is not with Muslim's generally. It is with the radicalized muslim's who are a different breed. I don't know how we defeat them, it seems each victory only causes more to join in with the fanatics. I am at a loss as to what to do.
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Unlike other movements or causes the radicalized/militant Muslims have fewer boundaries compared to protesters/movements past. Even the radicals of the 60s tended to focus bombings & protests on government facilities & organizations like police/ROTC buildings as an example. The anti abortion movement spawned radicals who targeted doctors that performed abortions, setting aside the issue those movements and protesters remained focused on the subject of their disdain.(NOTE I do not condone their actions or even necessarily advocate their 'cause'). This is what makes movements like ISIS extremely dangerous along with being a 'movement' because they are literally a moving target-what, who and where exactly does a country take out this ilk.
 
Debby said:
No, I think that back in the days of creation and the wandering Hebrews, there wasn't an understanding of disease like that and it was purely an OT Biblical instruction from the 'big guy'.
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I've always understood that God gave two parameters for kosher food - that the animal must chew its cud and have split hooves. Pigs have split hooves but they don't chew their cud.
 
Debby said:
No, I think that back in the days of creation and the wandering Hebrews, there wasn't an understanding of disease like that and it was purely an OT Biblical instruction from the 'big guy'.
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They certainly didn't have any understanding of disease, but they could put two+two together and tell if eating something made them sick.

I think that quite often when a religious edict was handed down, it was for some real life practical reason, or for social control.

Of course. if the edict is prefaced with "God said..." then that was a big attention getter that had some weighty authority attached to it.
 

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