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Vivjen

Vivjen

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I have been extremely disappointed recently in the amount of personal abuse and political clap-trap that has been posted on this forum recently.

I joined, expecting civilised conversation; some seious, some silly, with people from different countries, life styles etc, to stimulate and entertain me.

I am not interested in discussing my own political or religious views with anybody; and if I did; I would not expect to be personally attacked or bullied.

Put up or shut up.

This is my own personal opinion; so if anybody wishes to abuse me.....fine.
 
Vivjen, I don't know much about religion or politics, so I don't join in on either. Most of it is over my head. So, I like it when you, and some of the others talk of things we all can relate to. And, it seems some of the more interesting conversations left when some of members left, or went on vacation.:love_heart:
 
Thanks Ina, I like those conversations too, even if we do go a little off thread occasionally!

I am just glad that we have been able to keep you going....how are you and hubby?
 
Vivjen, I haven't noticed any abuse on political or religious topics. I think everyone has just stated their points of views in a respectful and non-confrontational way. I could be missing something, but the folks here have always been respectful of each other on forum.
 
I am not in bad health at all Ina ; no aches, no pains, no nothing....I just don't eat lots of healthy things..and I like chocolate, and red wine!
 
Different strokes for different folk. My preference in forums, is where thoughtful discussions take place. That doesn't mean harshness or arguments. If the subject is a matter in which I have no interest, I abstain. If I disagree, I'll state a position with my reasons, but will never discourage or demean other views.
I am inclined to more extensive thoughtful discussions, and sadly, have little patience with cute/funny responses or one liners that don't contribute to the discussion at hand. While there's nothing wrong with that, I look on forums as something other than chat rooms.
I post in a number of different forums, but usually only post when I have something I feel to be worthwhile sharing, or on threads that interest me.
 
Yes Tom; I agree; serious discussions should be discussed with reasoned arguements; the one-liners are for chit chat threads..
 
Tom Young said:
Different strokes for different folk. My preference in forums, is where thoughtful discussions take place. That doesn't mean harshness or arguments. If the subject is a matter in which I have no interest, I abstain. If I disagree, I'll state a position with my reasons, but will never discourage or demean other views.
I am inclined to more extensive thoughtful discussions, and sadly, have little patience with cute/funny responses or one liners that don't contribute to the discussion at hand. While there's nothing wrong with that, I look on forums as something other than chat rooms.
I post in a number of different forums, but usually only post when I have something I feel to be worthwhile sharing, or on threads that interest me.
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I think this pretty much says how I feel about the forum, too. I don't always have anything to contribute to a topic, or just not interested in the subject; so those threads I don't participate in very much. When it is something I am interested in discussing, then I usually share my thoughts or ideas about that topic.
We all have our separate ideas, and opinions are often very different. I see this as a positive interaction, as long as we are careful to be polite when sharing our opinions; and I think that the members of the forum, by and large, all do that without being offensive to anyone else, or trying to change anyone's mind.
Some responses are lengthy, some are short, but that is typical of most any discussion, so we can always respond to the posts that we want to.

I like that we have all kinds of topics on this forum, pretty much there are threads about almost anything a person could want to participate in; and you never know what topic will come up next. Plus, there are the groups for more focused discussions, and everyone in the group is encouraged to share their thoughts there.
I really enjoy this forum, and certainly hope that I have not offended anyone when expressing my opinion about any of the many topics; if so, it was not my intention to offend, ever.
 
All forums have their fun or serious sections, it is an either or choice or whatever takes your fancy.
 
SeaBreeze said:
Vivjen, I haven't noticed any abuse on political or religious topics. I think everyone has just stated their points of views in a respectful and non-confrontational way. I could be missing something, but the folks here have always been respectful of each other on forum.
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That's been my take on it too.
 
SeaBreeze said:
Vivjen, I haven't noticed any abuse on political or religious topics. I think everyone has just stated their points of views in a respectful and non-confrontational way. I could be missing something, but the folks here have always been respectful of each other on forum.
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I agree Seabreeze, people do enjoy discussing different things though, and never are all people going to agree on everything. I think this is one of the best forums I've seen in handling some touchy subjects. Maybe I missed something too, but I hadn't seen any abuse. I hate to ever lose the right to discuss different topics on here. I mean some things I wouldn't talk about for sure, but the world-news kind of things I like knowing how others see things, even if I don't agree.
 
Thanks for all your comments and opinions guys....message received and understood!
 
Tom Young said:
Different strokes for different folk. My preference in forums, is where thoughtful discussions take place. That doesn't mean harshness or arguments. If the subject is a matter in which I have no interest, I abstain. If I disagree, I'll state a position with my reasons, but will never discourage or demean other views.
I am inclined to more extensive thoughtful discussions, and sadly, have little patience with cute/funny responses or one liners that don't contribute to the discussion at hand. While there's nothing wrong with that, I look on forums as something other than chat rooms.
I post in a number of different forums, but usually only post when I have something I feel to be worthwhile sharing, or on threads that interest me.
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I like what you say here Tom, I mean I agree. I'm guilty of some one liners or getting off-track on threads at times, but what you say reminds me of something important. When I was growing up we were not aloud to talk about certain things, discuss them, nothing. Like no freedom of speech. I believe there was fear that there would be waves, or it would disrupt the supposed tranquility of the family, hah, it was horrible and instead of learning how to discuss things in an appropriate respectful manner, we learned never speak your mind. I believe in speaking my mind, but in a respectful manner. I am not perfect but I try to do that.

Anyway, kudos on your reply. Denise
 
Happyflowerlady said:
I think this pretty much says how I feel about the forum, too. I don't always have anything to contribute to a topic, or just not interested in the subject; so those threads I don't participate in very much. When it is something I am interested in discussing, then I usually share my thoughts or ideas about that topic.
We all have our separate ideas, and opinions are often very different. I see this as a positive interaction, as long as we are careful to be polite when sharing our opinions; and I think that the members of the forum, by and large, all do that without being offensive to anyone else, or trying to change anyone's mind.
Some responses are lengthy, some are short, but that is typical of most any discussion, so we can always respond to the posts that we want to.

I like that we have all kinds of topics on this forum, pretty much there are threads about almost anything a person could want to participate in; and you never know what topic will come up next. Plus, there are the groups for more focused discussions, and everyone in the group is encouraged to share their thoughts there.
I really enjoy this forum, and certainly hope that I have not offended anyone when expressing my opinion about any of the many topics; if so, it was not my intention to offend, ever.
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Good post HFL, I agree, I like the freedom of talking to people about things. Fun and games are, well, fun, but I like the serious times too we can get into some meaty discussions. Everyone seems fairly good about going into the topic, not getting into personal attacks, haven't seen that. Can tell you I have seen a lot on other forums that will remain nameless, here anyway;)
 
SeaBreeze said:
Vivjen, I haven't noticed any abuse on political or religious topics. I think everyone has just stated their points of views in a respectful and non-confrontational way. I could be missing something, but the folks here have always been respectful of each other on forum.
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I agree with you SB whenever there is a good subject to talk about a few may get into a good debate about it but never anything nasty, just different people from all over the world giving their take on the subject, that's what this forum has been like since i joined and if a subject annoyed me i just ignored it and went to other threads.
I feel most members on here prefer a topic with a bit of meat to it instead of airy fairy topics, i have noticed some members aren't posting anymore as they maybe aren't interested in the topics, which is a shame as one person in particular always wrote great posts, she should have been an author.
That's just my opinion and no-one need be upset by it as i am not attacking anyone personally :dontworry:
 
I don't agree with everyone here about everything, but I don't take it personally if someone disagrees with me. I also feel that when it comes to health, everyone is at least a little bit different too. Some things that some folks, not necessarily here, swear by might be things that make me feel lousy, and vice versa.
 
Just sayin said:

I’m with Tom on this one. I don’t choose to debate with those who have knowledge of physics because . . . I’m not a physicist and half an hour on google trying to be one will soon show through. We all ‘know things’ but often these subjective views gained from watching too much TV, or our own moral relativism, makes for some rather odd conversations. No matter, say what you mean and mean what you say and if there are disagreements, attack the post and not the poster.
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I don't have any degrees hanging on my wall, but this seems right and true to me, I would agree with you JS. I especially like say what you mean, and mean what you say. Denise

PS and the attack the post not the poster. That reminds me of a teaching of mine (that I was taught) about hate the sin not the sinner (yes, religious teaching, ouch, but some of it I consider very good). It's like if someone smokes cigarettes, I HATE cigarettes, smoke (the smell) and what it does to a body BUT I DO NOT HATE THE SMOKER! I don't know how many times I have been accused in one way or other of not liking people that smoke, or worse, hating them. That is a lie. Ok, done.
 
I've been AWL so I seem to have missed something. For me, a forum is where I can discuss serious issues and topics with people who have different opinions to myself. I hate it when there is universal agreement because I learned long ago that it is the dissenting voice that is the most important, the one that needs to be heard.

When a serious topic is raised, I do find it annoying when some flippant remark derails it but I realise that human nature being what it is, it is always going to happen. Que sera, sera.

I recently gave some men a hard time on another forum for entering a discussion on International Women's Day with nothing to add but insensitive nonsense. They still don't understand why I had no patience with them but I'm not really offended and neither are they because we are never abusive of each other, even though we tease each other fairly mercilessly at times. I don't yet know anyone on this forum well enough to be cheeky enough to provoke in jest (apart from Diwundrin whom I got to know very well elsewhere) so I tread carefully when I compose my posts. If anyone has been offended, I beg forgiveness because I don't intend to hurt with words.

Some topics are by their nature hot topics. If I know that some people are weary of them or likely to be riled up, I post in Speakers' Corner where posters know that their opinions are going to be respected, even if they are not agreed with. Drop in there if you are interested in serious debate and feel free to post any topic you like. The only rule is civility.
 
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