This is frightening!

So, hospitals are on the brink of shutting down because they are very close to running out of beds, exhausted medical personnel look like they are on the verge of tears when they are interviewed on the news, entire countries all over the world had to shut down until the virus was under some amount of control....

But not to worry folks. 80% get mild cases of the virus, and the death rate is "not even" 2% of the total population "so far." So a few hundred thousand people have needlessly died? For crying out loud. Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. Cheer up. And get back to work. The economy needs you, dead or alive.
 

Sunny said:
So, hospitals are on the brink of shutting down because they are very close to running out of beds, exhausted medical personnel look like they are on the verge of tears when they are interviewed on the news, entire countries all over the world had to shut down until the virus was under some amount of control....

But not to worry folks. 80% get mild cases of the virus, and the death rate is "not even" 2% of the total population "so far." So a few hundred thousand people have needlessly died? For crying out loud. Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. Cheer up. And get back to work. The economy needs you, dead or alive.
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that is what it feels like we're being told.
 
First of August there will be volunteers needed for the 3rd phase clinical trials of the first vaccine that has been shown to produce antibodies in virtually every person so far. I'm going to sign up. 15% will be given a placebo shot, the others will get the vaccine. Once the vaccine is out, the older people and those with underlying health issues get vaccinated, that should enable the true opening up. Until then it will be in an out of lock down I'm guessing, about everywhere, in most of the populated states.

Hearing older folks and front line workers will be priority and getting the first doses of the vaccine. Of course there will always be people that are against vaccines and won't get the shot. Even so it should really clear up the hospital issues. The problem seems to be greatly complicated by the fact that so many that go into ICU don't come out for over a month or more. That backs up the whole system.


Have heard too many stories of those that got the bug and got it bad, yet didn't have to be admitted to the hospital. You know,the " hey, I didn't die, but felt like I was going to or wished I could have died" kind of cases.

Guess they are in the 20% of the cases that didn't get the "mild" symptoms? Wonder if anyone actually knows what percentage of the covid cases are requiring hospital care now.

Pulse Oximeters, different body positions and breathing exercises has been shown to help ill people at home with covid management:

https://blogs.webmd.com/webmd-docto...ulse-oximeter-and-can-it-help-against-covid19
 

Part of a column by Michael Gerson (Republican pundit):

How did we get here? The story is relatively simple. Through shutdowns and social distancing, Americans flattened the curve of new infections.

But we plateaued at a very high level — roughly 20,000 a day during most of May. (Contrast this with France, which flattened the curve to a plateau of roughly 400 daily cases.)

Then came Memorial Day. Many Americans — with the encouragement of some politicians — took this as the mental end of the crisis phase. On May 25, there were roughly 18,000 new infections. On June 25, it was 40,000. Six days after that, 53,000. And a few weeks from now, the Fourth of July harvest of stupidity will be revealed.

On the second upswing of the first wave — where we currently stand — the profile of the disease has changed. Because nursing homes are better protected and the elderly have adhered to pandemic hygiene, the average age of someone infected by the disease has fallen by roughly two decades. Though a significant number still need hospitalization, fatality rates are lower. America is doing a better job shielding the most vulnerable

But there are two problems. First, following covid-19’s assault on the body, a significant number of younger people end up with long-term health complications. One doctor I know says that 40-year-old patients he has treated sometimes end up climbing stairs like wheezing senior citizens. Researchers warn of lingering damage to the brain. President Trump’s claim that 99 percent of covid-19 cases are “totally harmless” is a cruel lie.

Second, allowing the exponential spread of the disease will eventually make protecting the vulnerable an impossible task. All our islands of safety for the ill and elderly are endangered when the sea level of infection rapidly rises.

Many Americans simply don’t understand what exponential growth means. Three million infections can quickly bloom to 10 million infections, and higher. Even with a relatively low fatality rate, this could easily leave more than half a million Americans dead.
 
We are both same as far as staying home @Sassycakes we shop once every two weeks making sure we have enough to last that long ,I freeze fresh milk for the second week .
We mostly have fresh veggies with some frozen veg it all lasts two weeks wrapped and stored in Tupperware inn-the fridge

I’m not sure why some have issues staying home ( I mean people our ages )

I was astonished to see just how many flew to different parts of Queensland over the weekend
because Qld had just opened their borders on Friday .

The TV news teams were at the airport interviewing and asking why ..most said they couldn’t stand another day in their homes ..... I love my home and I personally wouldn’t think about travelling away from home into places where there is still virus cases popping up everyday
Where South Aust is virus free .👍👍

Depending on where someone is going in Queensland it’s a 3~ 4 hour flight from S.A.

Sending best wishes for your nephews speedy recovery it must be a very worrying time for all the family
 
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Just wondering...do you get your teeth cleaned or not? Normally I have a semi-annual cleaning. Have put it off for 2 months but it probably won't be any better then. Just wondered what others are doing these days. Seems like opening your mouth up to all that might not be a smart thing to do unless you'd have to I mean.
 
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Just wondering...do you get your teeth cleaned or not? Normally I have a semi-annual cleaning. Have put it off for 2 months but it probably won't be any better then. Just wondered what others are doing these days. Seems like opening your mouth up to all that might not be a smart thing to do unless you'd have to I mean.
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I did so a couple of weeks ago. They called me on my cell phone when I was to enter the building, every possible sanitary precaution was taken, waiting room was taped off, I was immediately asked a series of health questions, temperature taken, directed to a rest room to wash my hands thoroughly, then taken to the treatment room The dentist himself performed the cleaning. He wore full protective gear including being was double masked.

I've had enough dental issues to last me a lifetime so I'm rigorous about brushing, flossing and cleaning appointments. My original appointment was for early April and I went in July 1st and am relieved to have done so.
 

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