United States and Israel attack Iran Early Saturday Morning

I went to a FB friend's page yesterday to wish her a belated HBD and found out she was going through a birthday nightmare. We have been online friend since the Eons days (20 years) and she is the one who invited me to join Senior Forums (though she eventually left). She had posted that they were supposed to take an Emirates flight home (Scotland) but of course, now UAE airspace is closed and she didn't know how or when they'd be getting home. I was really worried about her.

Update: Their visa was to expire today and they were given only a 7 day extension if they booked a flight out. So they are flying to Vietnam and will stay for 2 nights. The new plan is taking Thai Airways (TA) to London, then the train to Scotland. I'm relieved that she and her husband now have a solid plan that doesn't include flying through UAE airspace. TA is avoiding all airspace impacted by the current military conflict.
 
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MACKTEXAS said:
and dismissive.
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Not trying to be dismissive. Where you not saying that a lot about what is going to happen we do not know. So time will tell.
The plans of mice and men.....
1. Take out Iran's nuclear facilities.
2. Take out the Iranian government.
3. Take out their military.
4. Have an influence on the floe oil.
5. Liberate the people and put them in power.

Oil flow and oil prices my fluctuate a little for us for a short time, but very little of our oil was coming from Iran to begin with and we are getting a lot of oil coming in from Venezuela.
 
Grailhunter57 said:
Not trying to be dismissive. Where you not saying that a lot about what is going to happen we do not know. So time will tell.
The plans of mice and men.....
1. Take out Iran's nuclear facilities.
2. Take out the Iranian government.
3. Take out their military.
4. Have an influence on the floe oil.
5. Liberate the people and put them in power.

Oil flow and oil prices my fluctuate a little for us for a short time, but very little of our oil was coming from Iran to begin with and we are getting a lot of oil coming in from Venezuela.
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Who's next? [Don't answer: we're done here.]
 
OldOld said:
It's strange that this supreme leader can be killed so easily. One would think his residential compound has some sophisticated bunkers or emergency escape routes. Or he simply does not reside in the usual home during dangerous time.
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My first thought was they just got lucky. When Bush went after Saddam, just prior to the invasion, when Saddam had reason to believe he had a few days left before he had to disappear, we bombed several locations where Saddam was likely to be based on intelligence reports, but they didn't find him until something like 5 or 6 years later.

My first reaction to hearing of the Ayatollah's death was surprise. Maybe he didn't think he would be targeted. Maybe he wasn't as good at hiding like Saddam. Maybe he thought his god would protect him. I doubt it's that easy to kill one of those guys from the air when they know they're target #1.
 
Here's my question. If their nuclear capabilities were supposedly crippled months ago (as was bragged about), why would they need to attack Iran again? They didn't get it right the first time? Or they lied about it? Regime change my a*s! @RambleTamble You're right about this: "You can't fool all the people all the time." Oh and the probability of "collateral damage" (even including our soldiers) was spoken about so casually that it burns me up.
 
JustDave said:
My first thought was they just got lucky. When Bush went after Saddam, just prior to the invasion, when Saddam had reason to believe he had a few days left before he had to disappear, we bombed several locations where Saddam was likely to be based on intelligence reports, but they didn't find him until something like 5 or 6 years later.

My first reaction to hearing of the Ayatollah's death was surprise. Maybe he didn't think he would be targeted. Maybe he wasn't as good at hiding like Saddam. Maybe he thought his god would protect him. I doubt it's that easy to kill one of those guys from the air when they know they're target #1.
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He might of planned to stay at his compound and die. That has a very powerful message giving your life willingly for your people.
 
OneEyedDiva said:
Here's my question. If their nuclear capabilities were supposedly crippled months ago (as was bragged about), why would they need to attack Iran again? They didn't get it right the first time? Or they lied about it? Regime change my a*s! @RambleTamble You're right about this: "You can't fool all the people all the time." Oh and the probability of "collateral damage" (even including our soldiers) was spoken about so casually that it burns me up.
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Well it is hard to know. They just started back up again and who knows how long it would take them to develop a nuclear weapon, they have been working on it for over ten years. The problem is they are doomday-ists. They were hoping that other countries would fight against America and Isreal to start a world war but that backfired on them.
So now they are firing on everyone. It is all about escalating everything. I am thinking America will soon give them a taste of the MOAB's......25,000 lbs bombs. That will rattle their cage.
They are running hundreds of sorties to mop up the missiles and drones. This should be over in a few days.
Then the hard part is getting a new government in place. That will take some time. If they can do that without boots on the ground that will be the trick.
 
Grailhunter57 said:
Well it is hard to know. They just started back up again and who knows how long it would take them to develop a nuclear weapon, they have been working on it for over ten years. The problem is they are doomday-ists. They were hoping that other countries would fight against America and Isreal to start a world war but that backfired on them.
So now they are firing on everyone. It is all about escalating everything. I am thinking America will soon give them a taste of the MOAB's......25,000 lbs bombs. That will rattle their cage.
They are running hundreds of sorties to mop up the missiles and drones. This should be over in a few days.
Then the hard part is getting a new government in place. That will take some time. If they can do that without boots on the ground that will be the trick.
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True, I have no idea how much time it would take to replenish their nuclear weapons arsenal. I saw a couple of analysts, one from Iran that said it's unlikely much will change regime wise. Where I live, we're close enough to New York City that if that gets nuked, we're likely toast as well or at least will suffer from the fallout (I've checked a fallout map). These are crazy, uncertain, concerning times!
 
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MACKTEXAS said:
Who's next? [Don't answer: we're done here.]
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Stay tuned for the next distraction of the week.

So far, I haven't seen any mention of the fact that in this country, only Congress has the right to declare war on a foreign power. Congress was never consulted, or even informed what was about to happen. We have had an incredible amount of evidence that this is no longer a country of laws, and our Constitution apparently now means nothing. Enough said.
 
OneEyedDiva said:
True, I have no idea how much time it would take to replenish their nuclear weapons arsenal. I saw a couple of analysts, one from Iran that said it's unlikely much will change regime wise. Where I live, we're close enough to New York Cith that if that gets nuked, we're likely toast as well or at least will suffer from the fallout (I've checked a fall out map). These are crazy, uncertain, concerning times!
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No worries mate! It will all work out.
 
Harry Le Hermit said:
Yes and no. The issue was ability to build a nuclear "bomb", in the near term. Further issue would be "dirty" bombs, with material that was stored elsewhere.

It has been speculated the 2020 attack on the U.S. base in Iraq, may have been low yield radiological material, although not fully acknowledged.

In 1987, Hashemi Rafsanjani, then-president of Iran, suggestively stated the following:


Neville Chamberlain declared peace in our time and was wildly popular in Britain, until 9-1939. Should we have waited until Iran had ballistic missiles equipped with nuclear weapons?
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With regard to your last paragraph above. Neville Chamberlain knew that Hitler had a much better prepared war machine than the UK did. He went to Germany in an effort to stall Hitler's sabre rattling and give the UK a chance to build up its military. It also gave the British government time to rally the Empire as well to the fight against Hitler. Without the sacrifice of his career the Germans would have attacked Westward much earlier than they did, and I'd probably be writing this in German.
 
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