United States and Israel attack Iran Early Saturday Morning

Trade said:
Yes. It's Israel and the United States that are the bad actors, not Iran. Iran is acting in self defense. What I don't understand are the people that buy the lie that Iran posed an Imminent danger to the US. I find that to be patently absurd.
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Iran is widely considered a state sponsor of terrorism and has been officially designated as such by several governments and international bodies for decades.
Official Designations
  • United States: The U.S. Department of State designated Iran as a State Sponsor of Terrorism on January 19, 1984. As of March 2026, it remains on the list alongside Cuba, North Korea, and Syria.
  • Australia: In November 2025, the Australian Parliament formally listed the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) as a State Sponsor of Terrorism following its involvement in domestic attacks in Australia.
  • International Monitoring: The Financial Action Task Force (FATF) maintains Iran on its "blacklist" (Call for Action) due to its failure to implement adequate measures against terrorism financing.
Support for Proxy Groups
Iran is frequently described by U.S. officials as the "world's leading state sponsor of terrorism". It provides extensive financial, military, and logistical support to numerous groups, often referred to as the "Axis of Resistance":
  • Hezbollah (Lebanon): Iran provides hundreds of millions of dollars annually, along with advanced weaponry and training.
  • Hamas & Palestinian Islamic Jihad (Gaza): Iran has provided significant funding (estimated at $100M–$350M annually) and was involved in training and planning for the October 7, 2023, attacks on Israel.
  • Houthis (Yemen): Ongoing supply of missiles and drone components used to destabilize the region.
  • Al-Qaeda: Despite ideological differences, Iran has been accused of allowing al-Qaeda to operate a "core facilitation pipeline" and harboring senior leaders within its borders.
Targeted Operations & Assassinations
The Iranian regime has a long history of conducting or planning terrorist acts directly through its own agencies, such as the IRGC Quds Force and the Ministry of Intelligence:
  • European Plots: Iranian agents have been convicted or implicated in bomb plots and assassinations of dissidents in countries including Germany (the Mykonos restaurant killings), France, Belgium, Denmark, and the Netherlands.
  • Western Targets: In recent years, U.S. authorities have disrupted Iranian-backed plots to kidnap or assassinate journalists (e.g., Masih Alinejad), human rights advocates, and high-ranking officials, including a plot to assassinate Donald Trump.
  • South America: Courts in Argentina found Iran responsible for the 1994 bombing of the AMIA Jewish community center in Buenos Aires, which killed 85 people.
 
There is no doubt that Iran is the sponsor of terrorism.

But I cannot see the benefit of this action to the USA, it is obviously a benefit to Israel but what is the benefit to the USA? Has the USA become Israel's lapdog?

Russia and China must be very happy with the current situation, they probably can't believe their luck.
 
RambleTamble said:
Iran is widely considered a state sponsor of terrorism and has been officially designated as such by several governments and international bodies for decades.
Official Designations
  • United States: The U.S. Department of State designated Iran as a State Sponsor of Terrorism on January 19, 1984. As of March 2026, it remains on the list alongside Cuba, North Korea, and Syria.
  • Australia: In November 2025, the Australian Parliament formally listed the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) as a State Sponsor of Terrorism following its involvement in domestic attacks in Australia.
  • International Monitoring: The Financial Action Task Force (FATF) maintains Iran on its "blacklist" (Call for Action) due to its failure to implement adequate measures against terrorism financing.
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Are the U.S. and Israel also designated as such? If not they should be. Their acts of aggression and terrorism certainly warrant it.
 
Trade said:
Yes. It's Israel and the United States that are the bad actors, not Iran. Iran is acting in self defense. What I don't understand are the people that buy the lie that Iran posed an Imminent danger to the US. I find that to be patently absurd.
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The leadership in Iran is evil and dangerous. An Iranian woman said that that guy they just killed wanted to nuke the West, but I also read that it was planned before 2005 and they planned on attacking Iran so it would retaliate and then come with covid, but they were behind on schedule. Iran wants to destroy Israel and funds Hamas that wants to take over the world.
 
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