US Patrol Boats Apprehended in Iranian Waters

I don't see what's so terrible about saying we're sorry we accidentally bumbled into their territorial waters. Doesn't seem to be any controversy, at least that I've seen, about whether or not they were in Iran's waters, so what's the problem with saying they're sorry? Seems like a reasonable response to me.

Seems to me that certain politicians and media are trying to make hay out of this tempest in a teapot.
 

QuickSilver said:
Why must there always be "the real" story? Sometime things ARE what they are said to be..
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That shows a very simplistic view if Persian (and I use the word deliberately) history and culture.

They were writing allegorical poetry while we were still grunting in our caves, and nothing in the Parthian Empire is EVER what it is said to be!

I repeat, you need to look long term, and just bas we still consider the views of Pitt the Younger, so they consider the views of Xerxes.
 
Butterfly said:
I don't see what's so terrible about saying we're sorry we accidentally bumbled into their territorial waters. Doesn't seem to be any controversy, at least that I've seen, about whether or not they were in Iran's waters, so what's the problem with saying they're sorry? Seems like a reasonable response to me.

Seems to me that certain politicians and media are trying to make hay out of this tempest in a teapot.
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:iagree:
 
"What I am saying is that if you hear hoof beats.... you don't have to think "Zebra"..... most times its just horses...."

Unless you're in the Serengeti.

You cannot consider these things in isolation from their context.
 
WhatInThe said:
They were treated as pows, seeeems ok as far pow treatment goes. But they were also used like pows for propaganda with the 'apology'. That being said this was probably a mission of some kind either to test Iranian response times and reaction or they were trying to sneak onto that Island. Just like the Iranians were testing weapon near a US aircraft carrier battle group a few weeks ago.

Cold war cat and mouse.
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Interesting slant on the events.
I hadn't thought of the possibility of the US testing the Iranian response time.
It is a dangerous way of gathering intelligence.
 
"I hadn't thought of the possibility of the US testing the Iranian response time.
It is a dangerous way of gathering intelligence."

The Russians do it all the time. We have fully armed fighters at two minutes readiness night and day.

Although this article is a tear old, it is still current.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/11609783/Mapped-Just-how-many-incursions-into-Nato-airspace-has-Russian-military-made.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...an-40-times-to-intercept-Russian-bombers.html
 
It seems like no matter how many times I tell myself that I'm just going to keep my mouth shut and not get involved, I continuously let myself get drawn back in and then I feel awful and guilty for doing it again. So I'm going to try this again folks, starting with an apology to everyone here and I'm going to back away again. (this reminds me of when I was trying to quit smoking.....over and over and over again). Wish me luck this time please.
 
Debby said:
It seems like no matter how many times I tell myself that I'm just going to keep my mouth shut and not get involved, I continuously let myself get drawn back in and then I feel awful and guilty for doing it again. So I'm going to try this again folks, starting with an apology to everyone here and I'm going to back away again. (this reminds me of when I was trying to quit smoking.....over and over and over again). Wish me luck this time please.
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Debby, no need to apologize or keep your mouth shut, that's just crazy! Many of us like to read your posts and consider you a very knowledgeable person. I'm open to hearing both sides of the story, and I think everyone should be, IMO. I've learned a lot from you about what's really happening in the world, and your input often matches other alternative news sources that I've listened to over the years. Nothing to feel guilty about my friend.
 
Secretary of Defense Calls Iran's Actions Outrageous

Defense Secretary Ash Carter called the detention of US sailors by Iran 'outrageous' and 'goes against' international law. Nothing that has been learned since justifies how Iran reacted or treated the sailors.

https://news.yahoo.com/carter-calls...yb21tBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzcg--

Says it months after the fact but at least he's not mincing words now.
 

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