Weight maintenance is so much harder than it used to be!

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Gonna get more seriouser
Bought 2 boxes of raisonets yesterday for after meal sweets
I mean, hey, they're raisons....mostly
Gonna jus' pop two in my mouth after a meal, then coffee
That'll be for the 2nd box
The first one didn't quite make it thru the day
You’re a better man than I. Raisinets will not make it much past the door of the store if they’re in my possession.

Try my trick @Gary O' Buy the fun or mini size bag of your favorite candy bar and freeze them. It takes much longer to eat one when they’re frozen so you’re feel like you’re really indulging.
 

mini size
If it fit in my mouth...it'd melt
Gonna stay with these mostly raisons

Also going with what my lady is eating
She's mostly vegan
We had this freaking delicious meal yesterday
Some kinda India dish
All veggies and glorious herbs/spices
Enough to turn this carnivore
'cept Kroger has a two for one rib eye thing goin' right now
 
@Gary O'


An old lady offers the bus driver some peanuts…so the driver happily munches them. Every 5 minutes she gives him a handful more peanuts..

Driver: Why don’t you eat them yourself?

Old lady: I can’t chew. Look, I have no teeth..

Driver: Then why do you buy them?

Old lady: Oh, I just love the chocolates around
them!
 

Diet/weight wise I suck, Keesh....but thanks
for asking! 😂

Schedule has been crap due to extra client work plus all the stuff we’re scrambling to get finished at home. So I haven’t been to the grocery store. When I don’t go to the grocery store and have at hand what I need to maintain my diet, I tend to eat what’s available because I have a really hard time with feeling hungry.

I want to get back to the weight loss buddies thread and start posting on that regularly. I need My Buddy!!!😍

Whaddya say @Keesha ... ready to rock and roll again? It sounds like you’re back on track.
My thoughts exactly!!!!
Posted in it already. 👍🥳
We need to kick start this thing up a notch.

I thought I posted this before I went for a walk but now just realized I didn’t. My post was still half finished. My husband had insisted I went for a walk with him right ‘then’ so I dropped my post and forgot about it.

Sorry Ronni. While walking I thought about you and think you and I are similar in that we jump in with both feet in most things we do. You still work full time, run a mixed family AND are renovating so your needs have probably gone on the back burner like mine since I started helping my parents after my moms stroke.

Before , I always came first 😅 and then my immediate family. My priorities all changed as well as my daily routines so now I’m getting back on track.

I did my 45 minute very brisk walk
I’m going to be riding my bike 2.2 kilometres this afternoon as well as doing my 25 minute yoga.

The bike ride I hope to increase by the week
Once my ear and sinus infections clear up I will start going back to the gym. At the moment I am not comfortable enough to do it so won’t.

I think it’s a really good idea to schedule in your workout time as well as meal plan. When I plan this and follow through, it becomes habit. Once good habits are established then this becomes easier.

Yoga? Did you look through any of those videos on yoga. Being a dancer I think you’d truly enjoy it.
It also is GREAT for loosening the body’s stiff joints.
 
Much of the frustration over the lack of weight loss is likely due to the "Calorie Myth." (I bought into it for years; that's what doctors told me)
Weight is more a matter of the type of calories, rather than the number.
A calorie is a unit of heat needed to raise the temperature of water by 1 degree Celsius. Some scientists decided it could be used to measure the energy value of a food. That's debatable.
Calories from fruits & vegetables do not have the same effect on our weight as the exact same number of calories from processed foods such as pasta, bread, chips, sodas & anything made with flour or processed sugar.
The difference is the amount of insulin needed to metabolize processed food. Processed food causes a spike in blood sugar. Your body responds by secreting lots of insulin to push the extra sugar into muscle cells. Insulin is a fat-storage hormone, so if weight loss is your goal, you have to eat foods that require less insulin - like vegetables, fruits, nuts, seeds, meat, and less processed foods (which we all like to eat).

In my photo (7 years ago), I'm at 185 lbs. I'm at 170 now, so it is not a temporary diet or temporary weight loss.
In the past, (while obsessing about calories), I have weighed 405 lbs.

Oh...Exercise? It's great for flexibility, circulation & using up that extra sugar we like - that's why I do it. But relying on it for weight loss is another myth. We aren't designed to use energy; we're designed to store energy. The number of calories used during exercise is not as much as we think. And how strenuous is our exercise when we're older? Weight loss is 90% diet & 10% activity.
 
But relying on it for weight loss is another myth.

Weight loss is 90% diet & 10% activity

Not for me

I don't give a rat's pooper what percentage or ratio someone sez

And I don't know of any hard data or what authorities are saying

But, here's what I do know
I dropped 60 lbs one summer building my cabins while eating anything
Lost more by chopping fire wood, still eating whatever
I've always lost weight when working
Whether chopping wood, or digging post holes or laying flooring



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Hard work....for me...does it

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I'm at 212 now
I just may build another cabin
 
Much of the frustration over the lack of weight loss is likely due to the "Calorie Myth." (I bought into it for years; that's what doctors told me)
Weight is more a matter of the type of calories, rather than the number.
A calorie is a unit of heat needed to raise the temperature of water by 1 degree Celsius. Some scientists decided it could be used to measure the energy value of a food. That's debatable.
Calories from fruits & vegetables do not have the same effect on our weight as the exact same number of calories from processed foods such as pasta, bread, chips, sodas & anything made with flour or processed sugar.
The difference is the amount of insulin needed to metabolize processed food. Processed food causes a spike in blood sugar. Your body responds by secreting lots of insulin to push the extra sugar into muscle cells. Insulin is a fat-storage hormone, so if weight loss is your goal, you have to eat foods that require less insulin - like vegetables, fruits, nuts, seeds, meat, and less processed foods (which we all like to eat).

In my photo (7 years ago), I'm at 185 lbs. I'm at 170 now, so it is not a temporary diet or temporary weight loss.
In the past, (while obsessing about calories), I have weighed 405 lbs.

Oh...Exercise? It's great for flexibility, circulation & using up that extra sugar we like - that's why I do it. But relying on it for weight loss is another myth. We aren't designed to use energy; we're designed to store energy. The number of calories used during exercise is not as much as we think. And how strenuous is our exercise when we're older? Weight loss is 90% diet & 10% activity.

Can you cite your sources please @win231?

I agree with some of what you say based on my own research and also personal experience.

I would like to research further but I can’t tell if this is anecdotal info, and you’d give me a head start if I had links or references
 
Can you cite your sources please @win231?

I agree with some of what you say based on my own research and also personal experience.

I would like to research further but I can’t tell if this is anecdotal info, and you’d give me a head start if I had links or references
I'm not sure what info you want sources on. The definition of a calorie is available everywhere - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calorie
The function of insulin is also easily researched: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulin
https://www.weightlossresources.co.uk/body_weight/insulin-resistance.htm

As for other weight-loss info, a good place to start is "Eat to Live" by Dr. Joel Fuhrman. It's too restrictive for me, but I've had great success keeping my weight where I want it, even following it 60%.
 
@Gary O'

I gain over the winter, spring and summer I lose while working outside...Lost 20lbs this year..Had a bad winter with Oreols!!!
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I’m with Gary. I don’t give a rats ass what anyone else says; I know my body and when I eat the foods that it prefers AND workout, my body responds favourably.

I know my body too. I have tried every diet out there, counted every last thing..fats, calories, carbs etc, ... peed on sticks, followed a food combining regimen, fasted, consumed nutrient packed smoothies, walked 3 miles a day and/or went to the gym and lifted weights 3-4 days a week while doing so, and have come to the inescapable conclusion that FOR ME, the only thing that has an impact on my weight is the NUMBER of calories I consume. It doesn’t matter a damn where those calories come from. My body receives them, processes them and uses them up one way or another.

Food choices play a huge difference in my digestive processes however, and I take that into account as I portion out my calories for the day. Not to get TMI, but as poop has already been discussed rather extensively here 😂 I will say that there are certain foods/choices/combinations that will cause serious ..er..backup issues, whereas others create a much more habitable processing environment and daily functioning.

At the end of the day, no matter what I eat, it’s the number of calories I consume that will determine whether I gain, lose or maintain my weight.

The caveat to that is that as I’ve gotten older and my metabolism has slowed and my muscle mass has decreased, my body will gain weight on less calories now than it used to.
 
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2400 calories yesterday. So that makes one full week of my diet break. I am halfway through it now.

Weighed in at 201 lbs. again this morning.

Everything is going according to plan.

And for those naysayers out there, (this means you Ronni) I am posting the following.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/09/170918222235.htm
Avoiding continuous dieting may be the key to losing weight and keeping the kilos off, the latest University of Tasmania research shows.

In findings published today in the International Journal for Obesity, School of Health Sciences researchers showed in a randomized controlled trial, that taking a two-week break during dieting may improve weight loss.
The study, funded by the National Health and Medical Research Council (NHMRC) of Australia, investigated the body's 'famine reaction' to continued dieting and its impact on weight loss in men with obesity.

During the study, two groups of participants took part in a 16-week diet which cut calorie intake by one third.
One group maintained the diet continuously for 16 weeks while the other maintained the diet for two weeks, then broke from the diet for two weeks eating simply to keep their weight stable, and repeated this cycle for 30 weeks in total to ensure 16 weeks of dieting.

Those in the intermittent diet group not only lost more weight, but also gained less weight after the trial finished.
The intermittent diet group maintained an average weight loss of 8 kg more than the continuous diet group, six months after the end of the diet.

Head of the University of Tasmania's School of Health Sciences Professor Nuala Byrne, who led the study with a team of collaborators from Queensland University of Technology and the University of Sydney, said dieting altered a series of biological processes in the body, which led to slower weight loss, and possibly weight gain.
"When we reduce our energy (food) intake during dieting, resting metabolism decreases to a greater extent than expected; a phenomenon termed 'adaptive thermogenesis' -- making weight loss harder to achieve," Professor Byrne said.

"This 'famine reaction', a survival mechanism which helped humans to survive as a species when food supply was inconsistent in millennia past, is now contributing to our growing waistlines when the food supply is readily available."
Professor Byrne said while researchers in the past had shown that as dieting continued weight loss became more difficult, this latest MATADOR (Minimising Adaptive Thermogenesis And Deactivating Obesity Rebound) study looked more closely at ways to lessen the famine response and improve weight loss success.
However Professor Byrne said while this two-week intermittent diet proved to be a more successful means of weight loss compared with continuous dieting, other popular diets which included cycles of several days of fasting and feasting were not any more effective that continuous dieting.

"There is a growing body of research which has shown that diets which use one to seven day periods of complete or partial fasting alternated with ad libitum food intake, are not more effective for weight loss than conventional continuous dieting," she said.

"It seems that the 'breaks' from dieting we have used in this study may be critical to the success of this approach.
"While further investigations are needed around this intermittent dieting approach, findings from this study provide preliminary support for the model as a superior alternative to continuous dieting for weight loss."
 
As for other weight-loss info, a good place to start is "Eat to Live" by Dr. Joel Fuhrman. It's too restrictive for me, but I've had great success keeping my weight where I want it, even following it 60%
As mentioned by others, every body's body is a bit different.
I get what win is trying to say, but one regimen doesn't fit everyone.
I know what I need to do.
And Ken ain't no help

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Because, once yer hooked....

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Maybe an unknown at the time, a benefit from moving from the cold & misery of the north east to the sunny and warm southwest was being able to be outdoors year round doing something physical.

Diet for us doesn't mean some restrictions or particular set of calorie defined foods. 3 meals a day. No junk food, no snacks after 6 p/m, main meal at noon. Exercize 5 days a week keeps our weight in check & out of the doctors office. Exercise isn't routine, muscle tone not bulking up is our way of weight maintenance. Muscle tone by varying what is done works for us. For me some days 270 stomach crunches some days 450 crunches. For both free weights go from light with multiple reps to as heavy as possible with fewer reps. Cardio a mix of stationary bike, elliptical, & tread mill. Or because we can year round, a 5 mile walk in the park at an average 18 minute mile pace.

In retirement filling the hours in a day means making a choice. Spend part of our day prepping good meals, exercising, & enjoying good health or not.
 
Not to get TMI, but as poop has already been discussed rather extensively here 😂 I will say that there are certain foods/choices/combinations that will cause serious ..er..backup issues, whereas others create a much more habitable processing environment and daily functioning.
Hey, I'm a dawg...it's what I do, after every meal.....or on command

Anyway
ate
had a movement
weighed
213
Not too concerned
I'll be running this winter
or
Jogging
I'll be wearing a hoody, as my buds have so cordially informed me that I have the gait of a struggling diseased yak when I run
 
Orthorexia nervosa - Wikipedia
Orthorexia nervosa /ˌɔːrθəˈrɛksiə nɜːrˈvoʊsə/ (also known as orthorexia) is a proposed eating disorder characterized by an excessive preoccupation with eating healthy food.[1][2][3] The term was introduced in 1997 by American physician Steven Bratman, M.D. He suggested that some people's dietary restrictions intended to promote health may paradoxically lead to unhealthy consequences, such as social isolation, anxiety, loss of ability to eat in a natural, intuitive manner, reduced interest in the full range of other healthy human activities, and, in rare cases, severe malnutrition or even death.[4]
In 2009, Ursula Philpot, chair of the British Dietetic Association and senior lecturer at Leeds Metropolitan University,[5] described people with orthorexia nervosa as being "solely concerned with the quality of the food they put in their bodies, refining and restricting their diets according to their personal understanding of which foods are truly 'pure'." This differs from other eating disorders, such as anorexia nervosa and bulimia nervosa, where those affected focus on the quantity of food eaten.[1]
"Orthorexia nervosa" is not recognized as an eating disorder by the American Psychiatric Association, and so is not mentioned as an official diagnosis in the widely used Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM).[a]
I was amazed that this is a thing! This is where my journey led after researching the healthiest way to eat. Vegan? Keto? Why are some of these plans so vastly different yet have almost cult like followings?
Money I'm sure is behind all of it.
Makes me want to go snort some Oreos.
 
Orthorexia nervosa - Wikipedia
Orthorexia nervosa /ˌɔːrθəˈrɛksiə nɜːrˈvoʊsə/ (also known as orthorexia) is a proposed eating disorder characterized by an excessive preoccupation with eating healthy food.[1][2][3] The term was introduced in 1997 by American physician Steven Bratman, M.D. He suggested that some people's dietary restrictions intended to promote health may paradoxically lead to unhealthy consequences, such as social isolation, anxiety, loss of ability to eat in a natural, intuitive manner, reduced interest in the full range of other healthy human activities, and, in rare cases, severe malnutrition or even death.[4]
In 2009, Ursula Philpot, chair of the British Dietetic Association and senior lecturer at Leeds Metropolitan University,[5] described people with orthorexia nervosa as being "solely concerned with the quality of the food they put in their bodies, refining and restricting their diets according to their personal understanding of which foods are truly 'pure'." This differs from other eating disorders, such as anorexia nervosa and bulimia nervosa, where those affected focus on the quantity of food eaten.[1]
"Orthorexia nervosa" is not recognized as an eating disorder by the American Psychiatric Association, and so is not mentioned as an official diagnosis in the widely used Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM).[a]
I was amazed that this is a thing! This is where my journey led after researching the healthiest way to eat. Vegan? Keto? Why are some of these plans so vastly different yet have almost cult like followings?
Money I'm sure is behind all of it.
Makes me want to go snort some Oreos.
What? So now the desire to eat healthy is considered an eating disorder by some? 🙄

Well for the most part I consider that I eat fairly healthy BUT I certainly don’t have a cult like following nor do I act cult like.

What’s so wrong with being concerned about the ‘quality’ of food one eats? I guess my dogs must have an eating disorder because they like good quality food too 🤪
 
Oh...Exercise? It's great for flexibility, circulation & using up that extra sugar we like - that's why I do it. But relying on it for weight loss is another myth. We aren't designed to use energy; we're designed to store energy. The number of calories used during exercise is not as much as we think. And how strenuous is our exercise when we're older? Weight loss is 90% diet & 10% activity.

I meant to quote your references but forgot.

We aren’t designed to use energy?😂🤣😂

Another whaaattt!

Yeah ok. I don’t care what any reference book says; we ARE designed to use energy. In fact, the very reason we eat food with calories is so we can convert it into energy to use.

If we don’t use up all these calories we eat from food,( energy) it THEN becomes STORED and we end up gaining weight and getting fat.
 
I was buying into some of this until I watched this video.
I think most people want to eat healthier these days and be sensible about it.
If this link doesn't work Ill try again.
 
2400 calories yesterday. That makes 8 days on my diet break. 6 to go.

Weighed in at 201 lbs. this morning.
 
What? So now the desire to eat healthy is considered an eating disorder by some? 🙄

Well for the most part I consider that I eat fairly healthy BUT I certainly don’t have a cult like following nor do I act cult like.

What’s so wrong with being concerned about the ‘quality’ of food one eats? I guess my dogs must have an eating disorder because they like good quality food too 🤪

Wikipedia's first describes this as a proposed eating disorder characterized by an excessive preoccupation with eating healthy food.
People become obsessive about all manner of things. Educated approaches to food intake are a whole different category and shouldn't be vilified or scoffed at.

I'm with you, Keesha. Our bodies tell us what fuel works best (and that sure changes over time, doesn't it!?!).

These days my diet is overall 95% (or more) plant based, low oil, very few processed foods (some vegan ice cream and an occasional Beyond Burger). At most one meal a week contains cheese, more rarely a bit of shellfish. I also avoid simple carbs.

My body and conscience feel better with that eating plan. Other people make their own choices.
 
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I agree with everything you said Keesha and Starsong. When I said cult like it wasn't meant to hit a nerve.
Orthorexia hit a nerve with me because I was becoming almost obsessed with trying to find the healthiest diet to prevent illness and live a happy, energetic life. Seeing that something like this existed made me relax, calm down and be sensible. There is no perfect diet. Being happy and taking pleasure in eating is more important.
I've stopped looking at all the yes, cult like, videos on YouTube from Keto to Paleo to Vegan to CARNIVORE ( yikes). I have learned from all of them and taken what fits for me.
 
Even if you don't have to lose weight it's still important to keep vigilant about your intake. Pounds can easily sneak up on one and there's always that nasty old hunger. Why is it that you're never just hungry for a nice salad? At least I'm usually not, especially when there's the siren call of a moist beautiful velvet cake.
 


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