What are the reasons some do not wear masks or will not be vaccinated?

[Aneeda72]

I wonder how many anti vaxxers are
against the covid vaccine because

1) they're against the concept of vaccines in general
2) they don't believe they'll get it cos they're fit and healthy
3) they think the death rate is low
4) their political party is against it
5) because they believe god is their vaccine

It does not matter why people don’t want to get the shot. They don’t-period. They have the right not to get the shot and the rest of society has the right to exclude them from society until they get vaccinated. Peer pressure can work wonders.

For the few people who actually can’t get a shot for medical reasons, most of people in that position will wear masks, not only for Covid, but for other illnesses they could catch, or they will stay home and self isolate.

While the world makes it an issue, not getting the vaccine, it’s actually a non issue which over time will solve itself, with illness, death, or natural immunity. In the mean while, “believers” can simply mask up-again as needed.

Masking will protect us from the flu as well and flu season is coming.

 

[jerry old]

Texas Governor removed mask mandate about ten days ago
Local Counties ignored the removal, made mask mandatory, especially the school superintendents.

They continue...governor alleges, they refused governor mandate, hilarious if it were not so serious
However, with the covid19 surge his rowboat is leaking.

 

[Tom 86]

I will not wear a mask because I don't get enough O2 when I have one on. I went into a store that said I had to wear a mask. So I was walking around & all of a sudden I was on the floor. They called the EMTs. They put pure O2 on me for about 20 minutes. 85 years old then.

Then they ask me if I was using a mask? I said yes as it says I need one to shop in that store. They got ahold of the store manager & told him never to ask an older person whose lungs are already impaired to wear a mask as they will get Co2 poisoning & not enough oxygen.

The same thing happened at my Eye Dr, who puts a shot in my eye. I had my mask on & was sitting in the procedure chair. Suddenly, I was falling out of the chair; the nurse caught me & took off the mask so I could get some good O2.

I had the one Moderna shot back in Jan of this year. Been in hospital & ever since Jan. I was so weak I could not do anything. When the hospital the pulmonary Dr. told me to NEVER get another Covid-19 shot or I will die.

Just about 3 weeks ago my strength started coming back so I could start doing things again.

I do not listen to the hype they have on tV trying to make everyone feel guilty for not wearing a mask or get the shots. I'm old for a reason. I've learned to not listen to Drs & people on the news media They are PAID to get on there & say that.

That's my story & I'm sticking to it.

 

[win231]

I will not wear a mask because I don't get enough O2 when I have one on. I went into a store that said I had to wear a mask. So I was walking around & all of a sudden I was on the floor. They called the EMTs. They put pure O2 on me for about 20 minutes. 85 years old then.

Then they ask me if I was using a mask? I said yes as it says I need one to shop in that store. They got ahold of the store manager & told him never to ask an older person whose lungs are already impaired to wear a mask as they will get Co2 poisoning & not enough oxygen.

The same thing happened at my Eye Dr, who puts a shot in my eye. I had my mask on & was sitting in the procedure chair. Suddenly, I was falling out of the chair; the nurse caught me & took off the mask so I could get some good O2.

I had the one Moderna shot back in Jan of this year. Been in hospital & ever since Jan. I was so weak I could not do anything. When the hospital the pulmonary Dr. told me to NEVER get another Covid-19 shot or I will die.

Just about 3 weeks ago my strength started coming back so I could start doing things again.

I do not listen to the hype they have on tV trying to make everyone feel guilty for not wearing a mask or get the shots. I'm old for a reason. I've learned to not listen to Drs & people on the news media They are PAID to get on there & say that.

That's my story & I'm sticking to it.

No comments from the controllers who want everyone to make the same choice they made????
I'm shocked!

 

[Don M.]

That's my story & I'm sticking to it.

Older people, and especially those with other health issues are at increased risk from this virus....AND probably cannot tolerate the vaccines, or wearing of masks. Exceptions to the rules and recommendations Should be made for them.

The younger and healthier people have little, or no, reasons for refusing to accept vaccination and wearing masks, etc., IMO. Until the vast majority do so, this pandemic will continue to be a major problem.

 

[Ladybj]

It seems like Delta is convincing some people that getting vaccinated might be a good idea. And, even wearing a mask!!!

Hasn't convinced me yet... next will be Omega virus.

 

[Ladybj]

So if wearing a mask is so harmful as you say why aren't all healthcare workers from 100 years back dead at 25? What about the people that wear masks in the work like lab techs ,coaters, sanitation workers, etc,?
Injecting poisons is bad. Really? No shit? How come we are not all dead from the vaccines we got as children? Why aren't we all dead from flu shots, polio vaccines, shingles shots?

I don't think lab techs wear the designer mask. I think they wear the blue mask where you can breathe...those are my favorite..the doctors wear those as well. The vaccines we got as children..we have no idea how they are effecting us as adults. There are soo many older adults with all sorts of health problems. Have not seen any medical records, therefore I cannot connect the dots and probably never will be able to. Bottom line "We don't know and the medical World don't have all the answers either. I respect doctors sooo much that say, "we don't know".

 

[Aneeda72]

I don't think lab techs wear the designer mask. I think they wear the blue mask where you can breathe...those are my favorite..the doctors wear those as well. The vaccines we got as children..we have no idea how they are effecting us as adults. There are soo many older adults with all sorts of health problems. Have not seen any medical records, therefore I cannot connect the dots and probably never will be able to. Bottom line "We don't know and the medical World don't have all the answers either. I respect doctors sooo much that say, "we don't know".

Well, I do KNOW one thing, because I got vaccinated, as a young child, I do not have polio, never had polio, and never will have polio. The so called side effect of the polio vaccine was playing in the rain and NOT getting polio.

I can breathe without an iron lung. I did not grow up in a hospital. As I child I did not need a wheelchair and was not made to stay home from school. I am grateful for the vaccines, the doctors, and the medical world.

 

[Jules]

There are soo many older adults with all sorts of health problems.

When weren’t there, except when people died much younger.

My older friend who had polio wished she could have had the vaccine.

 

[Becky1951]

You cannot compare former vaccines to the Covid vaccines.

Fact, all those childhood vaccines were studied for years to insure safety.

Fact, the Covid vaccines were not.

 

[Aneeda72]

You cannot compare former vaccines to the Covid vaccines.

Fact, all those childhood vaccines were studied for years to insure safety.

Fact, the Covid vaccines were not.

Remember, in the “old days” no computers, no large scale testing keeping track of how things went throughout the country. Just a fat old guy sitting in a basement keeping records. , it was more of a hit or miss hope we got this nailed technique. Were the old vaccines safer? I doubt they were any safer than the, than now.

Think of all the people who object to even the “old” vaccines for their children?

As the ADA has said many times, they did not cut corners on the vaccine, they cut corners on the red tape to get the vaccine approved. I am not trying to convince you, or anyone, to take the vaccine. I am not being harsh, or personal, when I say I don’t care. I really don’t care if anyone gets vaccinated or not.

In September, I will get my booster shot. I am “entitled” to the shot since I have an auto immune disease. I’ll let anyone know if I have side effects. Frankly, if they are giving in Texas when I am there, I will get it there if possible. I might be “sick” on the way back, but I’ll be vaccinated, again.

 

[Becky1951]

Remember, in the “old days” no computers, no large scale testing keeping track of how things went throughout the country. Just a fat old guy sitting in a basement keeping records. , it was more of a hit or miss hope we got this nailed technique. Were the old vaccines safer? I doubt they were any safer than the, than now.

Think of all the people who object to even the “old” vaccines for their children?

As the ADA has said many times, they did not cut corners on the vaccine, they cut corners on the red tape to get the vaccine approved. I am not trying to convince you, or anyone, to take the vaccine. I am not being harsh, or personal, when I say I don’t care. I really don’t care if anyone gets vaccinated or not.

In September, I will get my booster shot. I am “entitled” to the shot since I have an auto immune disease. I’ll let anyone know if I have side effects. Frankly, if they are giving in Texas when I am there, I will get it there if possible. I might be “sick” on the way back, but I’ll be vaccinated, again.

Not sure about the fat old guy, could have been along with 20 skinny guys, a few women also taking the time to study the X amount of participants in that study.

So now we have computers so what? Can computers see into the future and know how those participants were years later?

No.

I don't care who decides to be vaccinated it's their right to choose, as it should be.

 

[Rainee]

I really do not get it..seems there are many, I am seeing some here in Florida, who do not think they should wear a mask or be vaccinated. I especially do not understand the thinking that it is 'one's right' to decide whether they will or will not wear a mask...I certainly do not find them comfortable but a necessary evil..jk on the evil...I can almost understand how some have become frightened by the side effects discussions regarding the vaccine...Seems to me if we are going to get control of this virus we need more cooperation

Thats our problem out here the virus is out of control in NSW mainly because people will not stay home as the Premier suggest .stay home and the virus wont spread but so many disobeying and just doing what they like older folks in their home have caught the virus off them and then they go to hospital and many have passed away . surely if they did the right thing it would pass instead of infecting other people we have been in Lockdown for 7 weeks now and will for another 2 months if it doesn`t get better .
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[Aneeda72]

Thats our problem out here the virus is out of control in NSW mainly because people will not stay home as the Premier suggest .stay home and the virus wont spread but so many disobeying and just doing what they like older folks in their home have caught the virus off them and then they go to hospital and many have passed away . surely if they did the right thing it would pass instead of infecting other people we have been in Lockdown for 7 weeks now and will for another 2 months if it doesn`t get better .
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Yes, but it is the ME generation, the millennials. Nothing must interfere with what I want generation. This generation that seems to interact more with their phones and computer seems not to understand that people are real. Unlike a computer game, when a person dies, they don’t jump up and go on living.

Strange times.

 

[Aneeda72]

Not sure about the fat old guy, could have been along with 20 skinny guys, a few women also taking the time to study the X amount of participants in that study.

So now we have computers so what? Can computers see into the future and know how those participants were years later?

No.

I don't care who decides to be vaccinated it's their right to choose, as it should be.

It was 1955. I doubt the involvement of many, if any, women. I used the ”fat man in the basement” as an analogy to something said by a political entity-now gone but not buried. . I was being sarcastic.

Computers can track the side effects of millions of people who have been vaccinated, world wide, to see what, if any, of those worrisome side effects of the vaccine are. As computers are tracking the know side effects of having Covid-19-as in “long haulers”. So far, the virus is winning in the long term side effect area.

 

[Becky1951]

It was 1955. I doubt the involvement of many, if any, women. I used the ”fat man in the basement” as an analogy to something said by a political entity-now gone but not buried. . I was being sarcastic.

Computers can track the side effects of millions of people who have been vaccinated, world wide, to see what, if any, of those worrisome side effects of the vaccine are. As computers are tracking the know side effects of having Covid-19-as in “long haulers”. So far, the virus is winning in the long term side effect area.

True computers can track what's happening now, but not what the effects of the vaccine could be 3, 4, 5, 10 years from now.

Covid vaccinated persons are the long term test subjects.

 

[Sunny]

That's a very good point, Aneeda. Thanks to the immeasurable help we now get from computers, we are able to know a lot more about the effectiveness and safety of the vaccines, MUCH sooner than in the "good old days." We can probably learn in seconds what it used to take months, or even years, to find out.

 

[Aneeda72]

True computers can track what's happening now, but not what the effects of the vaccine could be 3, 4, 5, 10 years from now.

Covid vaccinated persons are the long term test subjects.

Of course the computers can track the effects for decades. Why wouldn’t they be able to do that? I don’t have a long term of life left, so whatever I have left, I’d like to use and not let the virus grab me early. But, I suppose, that’s just me and millions of other people

 

[Becky1951]

That's a very good point, Aneeda. Thanks to the immeasurable help we now get from computers, we are able to know a lot more about the effectiveness and safety of the vaccines, MUCH sooner than in the "good old days." We can probably learn in seconds what it used to take months, or even years, to find out.

Except for effects in future years. No way to know that with or without a computer.

 

[Aneeda72]

I am 75 soon. My future is here. I have no vaccine side effects. Before Covid the doctors felt I would not live beyond the age of 75. Sooo, I am so not worried about the long term side effects of anything. I am going to enjoy the rest of my time as much as possible.

 

[Becky1951]

Of course the computers can track the effects for decades. Why wouldn’t they be able to do that? I don’t have a long term of life left, so whatever I have left, I’d like to use and not let the virus grab me early. But, I suppose, that’s just me and millions of other people

No they cannot at this time tell anyone what the future effects will be. No one can until a few years from now.

Most seniors don't care because their time is limited. But everyone should care about the younger generations.

 

[John cycling]

I’ll let anyone know if I have side effects.

How exactly are you going to do that when you're dead?
When you play with fire you get burned.
When you put well known poisons in your body you're going to suffer the consequences.

 

[win231]

Older people, and especially those with other health issues are at increased risk from this virus....AND probably cannot tolerate the vaccines, or wearing of masks. Exceptions to the rules and recommendations Should be made for them.

The younger and healthier people have little, or no, reasons for refusing to accept vaccination and wearing masks, etc., IMO. Until the vast majority do so, this pandemic will continue to be a major problem.

True computers can track what's happening now, but not what the effects of the vaccine could be 3, 4, 5, 10 years from now.

Covid vaccinated persons are the long term test subjects.

And they are unpaid test subjects; unlike previous test subjects.

 

[Sunny]

Obviously, no one has a crystal ball. We don't know what the really long term effects are of anything we take into our bodies, and sometimes we have made mistakes. (Thalidomide, tobacco, some drugs that turned out to cause harm.)

But when there is a raging epidemic of a serious, often fatal disease going on right now, and the vaccines appear to be amazingly safe and effective right now, it seems to me sheer insanity to refuse to get it, because "some day down the road" they could discover something bad about it. (That's true, by the way, of everything we eat, drink, inhale, etc.)

 

[win231]

Obviously, no one has a crystal ball. We don't know what the really long term effects are of anything we take into our bodies, and sometimes we have made mistakes. (Thalidomide, tobacco, some drugs that turned out to cause harm.)

But when there is a raging epidemic of a serious, often fatal disease going on right now, and the vaccines appear to be amazingly safe and effective right now, it seems to me sheer insanity to refuse to get it, because "some day down the road" they could discover something bad about it. (That's true, by the way, of everything we eat, drink, inhale, etc.)

Every drug & product you mentioned (including tobacco) was endorsed & advertised by doctors who said what they were paid to say; just as with the Covid vaccine. And just as they do now with useless weight-loss and "Look & feel younger" supplements.
You'll find a doctor praising the effectiveness & safety of a product wherever the money is.