What are the reasons some do not wear masks or will not be vaccinated?

I would like to know your source also, Becky.

From everything I've read and heard, nearly all the deaths are among the unvaccinated. Of course, vaccinated people can die of other things, they just rarely if ever die of Covid.
 

Absolutely we are all going to die. Pro mask & vaccination or anti mask & vaccination or a mix is a choice. True is how & when not known even with the virus. So as a choice which we all have we can determine what works best for ourselves.

With this post there are 102 posts on this topic. So if nothing else reading, posting opinions that won't change minds is a good exercise for the brain. AND were all alive to post.😀
 
But I ask, from where is one to obtain this all important information

From your brain! From your brain! You're correct that people keep arguing with each other because they're confused and don't know which lies are true and which lies are the lies. The answer is that all of it is total BS, and one of their objectives is to keep changing the stories in order to keep the people confused. For me, I've seen through the whole thing from the start and have never believed any of it.

The best thing to do is to ignore absolutely everything that they say in the media, and just go on with your business as you always would do as if they never existed. Live your own life, stop being so confused, and stop allowing people you don't even know who live in some ivory castles to control you. Live your own life how you wish, and stop harassing other people so they can life their lives as well.

There's a direct relationship between stress and diseases. The more they can stress you, the more that you worry, the more you'll get sick. So calm down. Don't be concerned with any of the BS in the least. Ignore them completely, live your own life and you'll be much better off.
 

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From your brain! From your brain! You're correct that people keep arguing with each other because they're confused and don't know which lies are true and which lies are the lies. The answer is that all of it is total BS, and one of their objectives is to keep changing the stories in order to keep the people confused. For me, I've seen through the whole thing from the start and have never believed any of it.

The best thing to do is to ignore absolutely everything that they say in the media, and just go on with your business as you always would do as if they never existed. Live your own life, stop being so confused, and stop allowing people you don't even know who live in some ivory castles to control you. Live your own life how you wish, and stop harassing other people so they can life their lives as well.

There's a direct relationship between stress and diseases. The more they can stress you, the more that you worry, the more you'll get sick. So calm down. Don't be concerned with any of the BS in the least. Ignore them completely, live your own life and you'll be much better off.
From my brain? I think that I know what you mean but after researching some of your "truth", it seems a bit dubious to me. Are you aware that just possibly you might be posting questionable articles as truths? Maybe to you and others, the info obtained from Bitchute.com is infallible but for me, not so much, especially when I check the credentials of the site and the credentials of some of the "experts" that you reference. Then too you claim things like "well known poisons" is quite likely to be devastating to one's quality of life and life span. Yes, I guess that cyanide or ricin, the two best known poisons to me, might make for a bad day but you offer no source for this information. Did it come "From you brain?" because it sure didn't come from mine and just searching your words didn't bring up anything to substantiate your claim. To me, you seem like the fellow who would yell "FIRE!" in a crowded and darkened theater. I don't mean to offend you but I just can't believe that you think it's a good thing to try scaring people who either won't or don't know how to check your information for themselves and just accept it at face value. But you sir are spreading non-truths in abundance as well it seems. If you can offer proof from some reputable source besides Bitchute, I'd be most interested to view it. But on my own I could find nothing positive about ANY of your words.
 
Having a discussion is not arguing until someone calls others stupid, ignorant, uneducated, un patriotic, insane etc. And those names have been slung by the pro vaccine side against those who are NOT anti-vax, but rather not convinced the Covid vaccines are safe long term.

Considering information, ALL available information is important. If members are tired of the Covid thread, there is a simple solution, scroll on, don't read any of it. Problem solved.
^^^^ Bingo!
 
Credibility of bitchute.com Google search It seems like bitchute might be a reincarnation of the Weekly World News. You know, the ones who made Bat Boy famous. I wonder how he's faring with this Covid mess? Looks like he's fine!

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^^^^ Bingo!
I read every post in THIS thread and I couldn't find that anyone had been called or had called someone else any of those things. Which post was that in? Also, I did see a mention made of "fools having their heads in the sand" or words to that effect. If you're not a fool or if your head isn't in the sand then why such offense? If the shoe doesn't fit, don't wear it around. Touché! 😉
 
But I ask, from where is one to obtain this all important information without risking exposure to negative comments from BOTH sides of the issue as well as those who choose to “not choose” because they just aren’t sure of the long term safety of vaccines? If I want to be informed and to avail myself of available information, ALL available information, then a forum such as this would seem to be the place to seek it. I was merely questioning what are the long term effects of such animosity? Do you have access to some special source of information to share with someone as uninformed as I must seem to be? I only ask because you seem to have an answer about pretty much everything. You seem to know much that I do not. We may not agree but that doesn’t automatically make you right. I can respect the opinions of others but I need not accept them. I feel Voltaire said it well, “Cherish those who seek the truth but beware of those who find it!” I’m a seeker, are you a seeker too or is it too soon to say?
"Do you have access to some special source of information"

No more then anyone else.

Covid is a topic that should be discussed, information good or bad should be posted by any person wishing to do so.

"you seem to have an answer about pretty much everything"

I wish I did. Is giving my opinion as others do wrong?

"We may not agree but that doesn’t automatically make you right"

Nor does it make you automatically right.

"ALL available information, then a forum such as this would seem to be the place to seek it"

:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: I find this very funny, apparently its ok to post articles in this forum about non vaxers and or all the headline news about how bad Covid is and how many have been vaccinated and where the "hot spots" are etc, but if someone posts a negative article such as breakthrough cases and deaths or deaths due to the vaccines its not ok. :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 
I read every post in THIS thread and I couldn't find that anyone had been called or had called someone else any of those things. Which post was that in? Also, I did see a mention made of "fools having their heads in the sand" or words to that effect. If you're not a fool or if your head isn't in the sand then why such offense? If the shoe doesn't fit, don't wear it around. Touché! 😉
Other threads.
 
Would you mind sharing your source for this claim. Trying to do my own research. Thanks.
My claim for the numbers are rising? Well if you start with a few and then every few days more are added then its rising numbers.

I already posted these articles in another Covid thread on Friday. The last article here is from today. These are just so far.

79 fully vaccinated died.

https://www-bostonglobe-com.cdn.amp...id-cases-vaccinated-people-is-incredibly-low/

31 fully vaccinated have died

https://fox17-com.cdn.ampproject.or...ent-says-breakthrough-case-virus-coronavirus-

CDC says roughly 4,100 people have been hospitalized or died with Covid breakthrough infections after vaccinationOr died? Can't they tell the difference?

https://www-bostonglobe-com.cdn.amp...3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s

Nearly 400 people have been hospitalized and 100 have now died in Massachusetts

https://www-nbcboston-com.cdn.amppr...-cases-in-massachusetts-what-we-know/2457920/

I had already posted these in the thread "Vaccinated Cruise Ship Passengers Test Positive For Covid" on friday. #12
Health officials say 10 fully vaccinated Oregonians died of COVID-19 in July, correcting previously reported data

https://www-oregonlive-com.cdn.ampp...july-correcting-previously-reported-data.htm

159 Dead, 593 Hospitalized in Illinois Breakthrough COVID Cases

https://www-nbcchicago-com.cdn.ampp...in-illinois-breakthrough-covid-cases/2560611/

Minnesota has seen at least 5,599 breakthrough cases of COVID-19 and at least 57 deaths among fully vaccinated people

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-st...s-5-600-breakthrough-covid-19-cases-57-deaths
 
I would like to know your source also, Becky.

From everything I've read and heard, nearly all the deaths are among the unvaccinated. Of course, vaccinated people can die of other things, they just rarely if ever die of Covid.
My claim for the numbers are rising? Well if you start with a few and then every few days more are added then its rising numbers.

I already posted these articles in another Covid thread on Friday. The last article here is from today. These are just so far.

79 fully vaccinated died.

https://www-bostonglobe-com.cdn.amp...id-cases-vaccinated-people-is-incredibly-low/

31 fully vaccinated have died

https://fox17-com.cdn.ampproject.or...ent-says-breakthrough-case-virus-coronavirus-

CDC says roughly 4,100 people have been hospitalized or died with Covid breakthrough infections after vaccinationOr died? Can't they tell the difference?

https://www-bostonglobe-com.cdn.amp...3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s

Nearly 400 people have been hospitalized and 100 have now died in Massachusetts

https://www-nbcboston-com.cdn.amppr...-cases-in-massachusetts-what-we-know/2457920/

I had already posted these in the thread "Vaccinated Cruise Ship Passengers Test Positive For Covid" on friday. #12
Health officials say 10 fully vaccinated Oregonians died of COVID-19 in July, correcting previously reported data

https://www-oregonlive-com.cdn.ampp...july-correcting-previously-reported-data.htm

159 Dead, 593 Hospitalized in Illinois Breakthrough COVID Cases

https://www-nbcchicago-com.cdn.ampp...in-illinois-breakthrough-covid-cases/2560611/

Minnesota has seen at least 5,599 breakthrough cases of COVID-19 and at least 57 deaths among fully vaccinated people

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-st...s-5-600-breakthrough-covid-19-cases-57-deaths
 
"Do you have access to some special source of information"

No more then anyone else.

Covid is a topic that should be discussed, information good or bad should be posted by any person wishing to do so.

"you seem to have an answer about pretty much everything"

I wish I did. Is giving my opinion as others do wrong?

"We may not agree but that doesn’t automatically make you right"

Nor does it make you automatically right.

"ALL available information, then a forum such as this would seem to be the place to seek it"

:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: I find this very funny, apparently its ok to post articles in this forum about non vaxers and or all the headline news about how bad Covid is and how many have been vaccinated and where the "hot spots" are etc, but if someone posts a negative article such as breakthrough cases and deaths or deaths due to the vaccines its not ok. :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
I can't force you to agree. You have the right to be wrong.
 
I read every post in THIS thread and I couldn't find that anyone had been called or had called someone else any of those things. Which post was that in? Also, I did see a mention made of "fools having their heads in the sand" or words to that effect. If you're not a fool or if your head isn't in the sand then why such offense? If the shoe doesn't fit, don't wear it around. Touché! 😉
Some posts were removed and treads locked.
 
"Do you have access to some special source of information"

No more then anyone else.

Covid is a topic that should be discussed, information good or bad should be posted by any person wishing to do so.
So unverifiable claims should be posted, is that your position?
"you seem to have an answer about pretty much everything"

I wish I did. Is giving my opinion as others do wrong?
Not at all, just as long as you state it as opinion and not fact.
"We may not agree but that doesn’t automatically make you right"
Nor does it make you automatically right.
Not at all but I don't post my opinions about Covid and health, claiming them to be merely opinions and NOT facts.
"ALL available information, then a forum such as this would seem to be the place to seek it"

:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: I find this very funny, apparently its ok to post articles in this forum about non vaxers and or all the headline news about how bad Covid is and how many have been vaccinated and where the "hot spots" are etc, but if someone posts a negative article such as breakthrough cases and deaths or deaths due to the vaccines its not ok. :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
If some words offend you, that's unfortunate but I find it offensive that some would try to mislead others to stress and panic. If you feel that describes you, well, you decided that and no one else. But I do get the feeling that you're more con than pro, vaxwise. But I don't know that for a FACT. That's merely my opinion based on your comments.
 
So unverifiable claims should be posted, is that your position?

Not at all, just as long as you state it as opinion and not fact.


Not at all but I don't post my opinions about Covid and health, claiming them to be merely opinions and NOT facts.

If some words offend you, that's unfortunate but I find it offensive that some would try to mislead others to stress and panic. If you feel that describes you, well, you decided that and no one else. But I do get the feeling that you're more con than pro, vaxwise. But I don't know that for a FACT. That's merely my opinion based on your comments.
I post news articles, I cannot nor can you 100% verify its claim. And yes in some reply comments I have posted facts. Such as when it was claimed that being vaccinated meant you if you got Covid you wouldn't die from it. Fact, there are Covid breakthrough deaths.

I have had every vaccine available during my 70 years except the Covid vaccine, which my Dr advised against my getting it.

I have not "mislead" anyone.

"I find it offensive that some would try to mislead others to stress and panic."

Sorry your so easily offended. So posting an opposing or negative article is causing stress and panic??

So there should be censorship to protect the delicate?

If some articles offend you, scroll on. That's just my opinion.
 
Ah, but I'm not wrong, in my facts. And you don't have to force someone to have them panic or become stressed. Just spreading unverifiable or false information usually works pretty well, I'd say, as an opinion, not a fact.
"Ah, but I'm not wrong, in my facts"

:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: your so humorous!


I have never claimed articles I posted were facts unless of course there was a comment within them that said it was CDC stated fact. Its up to the reader to decide which information is fact or not. :rolleyes:
 
"Ah, but I'm not wrong, in my facts"

:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: your so humorous!


I have never claimed articles I posted were facts unless of course there was a comment within them that said it was CDC stated fact. Its up to the reader to decide which information is fact or not. :rolleyes:
Are you familiar with the concept of inducing panic? Have you ever heard that term before? Sure, you could yell "FIRE!" in a crowded theater and claim later that it was just your "opinion", it's up to the people who trampled each other trying to get out alive due to PANIC to decide if there actually was a fire or not. As for me, I don't care now, after all I've seen of you, if you stated that the grass is green and the sky is blue, I'd be SURE to check because you seem to think on some level that I'm not familiar with. The horse is dead, Becky 1951. The horse died of Covid and panic.
 
I post news articles, I cannot nor can you 100% verify its claim. And yes in some reply comments I have posted facts. Such as when it was claimed that being vaccinated meant you if you got Covid you wouldn't die from it. Fact, there are Covid breakthrough deaths.

I have had every vaccine available during my 70 years except the Covid vaccine, which my Dr advised against my getting it.

I have not "mislead" anyone.

"I find it offensive that some would try to mislead others to stress and panic."

Sorry your so easily offended. So posting an opposing or negative article is causing stress and panic??

So there should be censorship to protect the delicate?

If some articles offend you, scroll on. That's just my opinion.
Becky 1951, to me, just sharing my opinion here but you seem so full of yourself that I don't think that there's room for anything else inside you. Do you have medications that maybe you've missed dosages of recently? I don't pray but if I did, I'd pray for you. I just may make an exception and do so anyway but then again, maybe not. And maybe I can't verify my facts to YOUR satisfaction to 100% but I guarantee that I can document more of what I say that what I can when I look up what you say. And that's a FACT!

And did your doctor advise you to not get vaccinated or did you decide to forego it because you don't know how it might affect you in the future? Your stance confuses me. There need not be censorship to protect the delicate but some editing to protect the gullible might be a good idea. If you feel offense at things I say too, scroll on. No need to nitpick every word I say just because you can't PROVE me wrong.
 
Are you familiar with the concept of inducing panic? Have you ever heard that term before? Sure, you could yell "FIRE!" in a crowded theater and claim later that it was just your "opinion", it's up to the people who trampled each other trying to get out alive due to PANIC to decide if there actually was a fire or not. As for me, I don't care now, after all I've seen of you, if you stated that the grass is green and the sky is blue, I'd be SURE to check because you seem to think on some level that I'm not familiar with. The horse is dead, Becky 1951. The horse died of Covid and panic.
Interesting. Now I'm the source of panic. :rolleyes:

"The horse died of Covid and panic." :ROFLMAO:🤪

Just because I didn't bend when you tried to break me. ;)

Sorry about your horse.
 
Becky 1951, to me, just sharing my opinion here but you seem so full of yourself that I don't think that there's room for anything else inside you. Do you have medications that maybe you've Oh sorrt more of what I say that what I can when I look up what you say. And that's a FACT!

And did your doctor advise you to not get vaccinated or did you decide to forego it because you don't know how it might affect you in the future? Your stance confuses me. There need not be censorship to protect the delicate but some editing to protect the gullible might be a good idea. If you feel offense at things I say too, scroll on. No need to nitpick every word I say just because you can't PROVE me wrong.
Oh sorry. I didn't realize it was ok for you to nit pic my every word but not for me to do it.

Personally MY opinion only here is that you are hoping to this thread lock.
 


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