What do you think about states legalizing marijuana?

This concerns me a whole lot...

Colorado raked in about $12.6 million the first three months after pot was legalized for adults 21 and over. Pot party planners are dreaming up classy events: the Colorado Symphony just had its first “Classically Cannabis” fund-raiser with joints and Debussy. But the state is also coming to grips with the darker side of unleashing a drug as potent as marijuana on a horde of tourists of all ages and tolerance levels seeking a mellow buzz.

In March, a 19-year-old Wyoming college student jumped off a Denver hotel balcony after eating a pot cookie with 65 milligrams of THC. In April, a Denver man ate pot-infused Karma Kandy and began talking like it was the end of the world, scaring his wife and three kids. Then he retrieved a handgun from a safe and killed his wife while she was on the phone with an emergency dispatcher.

As Jack Healy reported in The Times on Sunday, Colorado hospital officials “are treating growing numbers of children and adults sickened by potent doses of edible marijuana” and neighboring states are seeing more stoned drivers.

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/04/opinion/dowd-dont-harsh-our-mellow-dude.html
 

ohioboy said:
The Feds or states will always keep it illegal for certain violations.
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You can legalize it for general use but still have laws against import/export; private growing, sales/distribution and any number of other things. Legalizing it is just putting some controls on making a quality controlled product available to the commercial market at a controlled price. Not only does legalization produce considerable tax revenue but also quite a number of other jobs in the production and sale of the products in a controlled environment. Takes the whole thing out of an illegal, wild-west sort of environment and produces a lot of incremental income at the same time. It really is no different than the alcohol industry from what I've seen here in Canada since it's been legalized. Is there still illegal activity here in Canada now that it's legal - yes! But, a lot less and people still go to jail, just not for simple possession.
 
Dana said:
This concerns me a whole lot...

Colorado raked in about $12.6 million the first three months after pot was legalized for adults 21 and over. Pot party planners are dreaming up classy events: the Colorado Symphony just had its first “Classically Cannabis” fund-raiser with joints and Debussy. But the state is also coming to grips with the darker side of unleashing a drug as potent as marijuana on a horde of tourists of all ages and tolerance levels seeking a mellow buzz.

In March, a 19-year-old Wyoming college student jumped off a Denver hotel balcony after eating a pot cookie with 65 milligrams of THC. In April, a Denver man ate pot-infused Karma Kandy and began talking like it was the end of the world, scaring his wife and three kids. Then he retrieved a handgun from a safe and killed his wife while she was on the phone with an emergency dispatcher.

As Jack Healy reported in The Times on Sunday, Colorado hospital officials “are treating growing numbers of children and adults sickened by potent doses of edible marijuana” and neighboring states are seeing more stoned drivers.

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/04/opinion/dowd-dont-harsh-our-mellow-dude.html
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If you search for the worst , most dramatic of anything, you’ll find it. 🙄 A drug as potent as marijuana. LMAO! 😂
 

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It is now legal here in Arizona and happy that it is. I have not smoked pot since my early twenties but I do know some who still do in a responsible manner and I am glad they can get it through legal means now. Being an alcoholic, I know that marijuana could be a potential gateway for me to go back to drinking so I will not partake but that should not prevent the majority of those who do use it responsibly from enjoying it.
 
MrPants said:
You can legalize it for general use but still have laws against import/export; private growing, sales/distribution and any number of other things. Legalizing it is just putting some controls on making a quality controlled product available to the commercial market at a controlled price. Not only does legalization produce considerable tax revenue but also quite a number of other jobs in the production and sale of the products in a controlled environment. Takes the whole thing out of an illegal, wild-west sort of environment and produces a lot of incremental income at the same time. It really is no different than the alcohol industry from what I've seen here in Canada since it's been legalized. Is there still illegal activity here in Canada now that it's legal - yes! But, a lot less and people still go to jail, just not for simple possession.
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Great post. 👍
 
Mr. pants, we have a provision in our Constitution called "Full faith and credit", which means on a most general basis, states are required to honor Acts and Records of another state, but a state is not bound to honor the public policy of another state if it violates their own PP. This is why states can criminalize or not criminalize what other states do, and it is no defense to a charge in a state that has de-criminalized it just because the home state of the person permits it.
 
I'm against it. I think we have enough problems already.
It's not like the same drug people were smoking in college 50 years ago but much stronger. It can be very damaging to a young growing brain, causing general apathy and loss of motivation, and in a few cases it causes schizophrenia. It's long been known to be a gateway drug to other drugs. There's also a real connection between marijuana and violent crime. The idea that it just makes everyone mellow and relaxed is a myth.

Here's a really good book on the dangers.
 
Della said:
I've seen many sources, here's One:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6461328/
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That looks like a legitimate scientific article warning about the dangers of marijuana use, but it's actually written by the novelist and former reporter Alex Berenson. Most of what he cites are correlation without proof of causation, or anecdotal and cherrypicked evidence to prove his point, but predominantly to sell books. He has appeared regularly on right-wing media where he downplayed the severity of covid-19 and made claims that facemasks were ineffective, which are completely contrary to what medical experts have found.
 
Over the last 56 years (since I was about 12) I've watched people get fatter, more sedentary, more slovenly, more tattooed, less literate, ruder and more self-indulgent. Pot is just another step on that road. Sure, toke up, who cares? Order a stuffed crust pizza and a bag of donut holes while you're at it.
 
StarSong said:
I'd wager that the correlation between alcohol and violent crime far surpasses the correlation between marijuana and violent crime.
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I expect you're right and alcohol causes more crimes than marijuana, but it's not as though we're choosing between the two. To me alcohol is a warning as to what happens when a social drug becomes mainstream and legal. Why add another one?

I think it's a moot question anyway, it will soon be legal in all the United States and a certain, very few, people will make millions from it and the rest of us will pay the price.
 
There are many more options for using including consumption through oils, butters in foods or in caps. I like making canna butter and canna oil. I’m not a fan of the smell either
 
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Della said:
I expect you're right and alcohol causes more crimes than marijuana, but it's not as though we're choosing between the two. To me alcohol is a warning as to what happens when a social drug becomes mainstream and legal. Why add another one?

I think it's a moot question anyway, it will soon be legal in all the United States and a certain, very few, people will make millions from it and the rest of us will pay the price.
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Most people I know indulge in one or the other or neither. Very few use both (other than on rare social occasions).
 
Going to a dealer for reefer often is dangerous because he or she is dealing more then reefer. You are there but at a time when the law is outside getting ready to raid the place and they do and find heroin, guns and other dangerous drugs. You are now in deep dung like everyone else in the house.
 
Irwin said:
That looks like a legitimate scientific article warning about the dangers of marijuana use, but it's actually written by the novelist and former reporter Alex Berenson. Most of what he cites are correlation without proof of causation, or anecdotal and cherrypicked evidence to prove his point, but predominantly to sell books. He has appeared regularly on right-wing media where he downplayed the severity of covid-19 and made claims that facemasks were ineffective, which are completely contrary to what medical experts have found.
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Well I only know Alex Berenson from his book which seemed well researched to me,
but since you don't like him, here's a study that has nothing to do with him.

{It's from Sweden because we aren't doing this kind of study.}

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0140673687926201
 
StarSong said:
I'd wager that the correlation between alcohol and violent crime far surpasses the correlation between marijuana and violent crime.

I say that as someone who doesn't use or like MJ. Never particularly cared for the high and even low level medicinal doses cause my heart to race, so I avoid it in all forms.
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It's not the consumption of these things causing crime it's the criminals whether high or not. Years ago I learned of dumb cowboys in TexASS taking LSD and starting fights in bars. Yeehaw.....:rolleyes:
 
JimBob1952 said:
Over the last 56 years (since I was about 12) I've watched people get fatter, more sedentary, more slovenly, more tattooed, less literate, ruder and more self-indulgent. Pot is just another step on that road. Sure, toke up, who cares? Order a stuffed crust pizza and a bag of donut holes while you're at it.
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I guess pizza and donuts will be outlawed next. What about tobacco?

It's always easier to see someone else's vices.
 
I think the title of this thread should be changed to, "What good things do you think about states legalizing marijuana?" Otherwise you'd better have documented sources for your opinion. Where are all the sources saying it never does anything but make people mellow?
 
I have a friend of many many years, she smoked pot every day, sometimes recreational later for pain. About the time it became legal in Canada she quit using it. She is without a doubt the strangest person I have ever known. So much for getting addicted to pot.
 
Alcohol use should be banned because it's a gateway drug to marijuana. I don't think I've ever known anyone who didn't try alcohol before they tried marijuana. /sarcasm

You know what really screws a person up? Being sent to prison for possession of a little pot. That can catastrophically affect a person's entire life.

That said, if a person has mental health issues before using pot, the use of pot can exasperate those issues, simply because when you're stoned, you tend to get more introspective, which isn't a good thing if you have low self-esteem. Even more so with hallucinogens. Whenever I see articles about the use of LSD for treatment with psychiatric patients, I always think "that's a really bad idea." I'd be willing to bet that the patient has to sign an exculpatory agreement and liability waver before undergoing treatment.
 
Banning alcohol, for whatever reason, would be fine with me.

There's a long distance between legalizing something and sending people to prison for it. We could treat marijuana like speeding. Keep it illegal and give people tickets if they get caught with it.
 

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