What Don’t Police Understand?

Status
Not open for further replies.
I hear the cop had been in trouble like this before,so he was dangerous and should have been removed. Plus no tellign what kind of mind altering drugs dr. may have put im on if he was undr care. He did look robotic. Dr.s try to put everyone oa nti depressant drugs and some are known to cause violent actions,
 

RIP Mr. Floyd. 💔💔💔 My deepest condolences to your family and loved ones.
View attachment 107127

And Officers Derek Chauvin, Thomas Lane, Tou Thao and J. Alexander Kueng? You all can go to hell 😡
View attachment 107129
I'm sure anyone who is involved in this type of thing is already in hell. All that anger and apathy is evil.
But the peopel whi gave these criminals the nerve to think they are invivncible may need a little trip to hell too.
if you get arrested keep your mouth shut or you may find yourself in the hands of a psychotic cop who sees your kind every day ,it just may be one like this cop being tried here by you folks.🤫
 

Disagree strongly. People should NOT riot. Riots solve nothing, people get hurt, structures get damaged, property gets destroyed, people get arrested, and currently they are being shot with bean bags which could easily change to bullets. Nothing Good is accomplished.

Clearly you’ve never been through a riot or lived where there was a riot. And yes, I have.

And the dead person, he’s still dead. What’s the point?

Strongly agree. I lived through a riot in D.C. in 1968. It's an experience I do not care to repeat. Nobody and nothing is safe in a riot. All that riot in DC accomplished was wholesale property destruction in neighborhoods of people who had absolutely nothing to do with the cause of the riot, fires everywhere, and terror and injury, again of people who had nothing to do with what had happened.

Riots accomplish absolutely nothing, as you said.
 
I'm sure anyone who is involved in this type of thing is already in hell. All that anger and apathy is evil.
But the peopel whi gave these criminals the nerve to think they are invivncible may need a little trip to hell too.
if you get arrested keep your mouth shut or you may find yourself in the hands of a psychotic cop who sees your kind every day ,it just may be one like this cop being tried here by you folks.🤫
Often, with dirtbag cops like this, the abuse starts before a suspect (who isn't their favorite color) says anything. The cops keep revving up the abuse until the suspect reacts, then they use the "resisting arrest" ploy.
 
No you didn’t say he died from the fall but sure suggested it. How many people die from falls? I have no idea but I certainly have an idea about how many people die from a fall after having someone kneeling on their neck for 7 full minutes.
I suggested no such thing.
 
I, too, have heard the same about the Minneapolis Police force.
@Aunt Marg Have you bought a ticket for Minneapolis yet? No you are too busy making judgements or perhaps too frightened. Now there is looting, fires, gunshots and the costs of the riots increase. Do you think the people, who loot TV’s and set fires care about a dead man?

Do you really think anyone who riots cares about a dead man? Are you that ignorant? As innocent people in Minneapolis huddle in their homes because they are frightened beyond reason, you sit in your home and spout meaningless dribble.

“The whole world should riot”, I believe you said. Any more stupid comments from someone who has never been present for a riot? The children in Minneapolis will be scared for life. This supposedly all over some dead man. And the virus still lurking in the background.

What will be the final costs? Do you even care? I think not.
 
Wife just showed me the vid
Horrific
Then I opened this thread

Yeah, they've gotta be prosecuted

No, riots aren't the answer

Protesting, that'd be a help

Swift justice is required
Yes. This is what I meant.
Rioting solves nothing. Protesting to get public exposure can be helpful and it’s not a violent act.
Protesting is what I meant and it’s apparently not illegal to do either. I still believe people should be outraged. That doesn’t involve setting fires or looting. Nobody should use this as an excuse to break the law with violence and theft.
https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/protesters-rights/

4D152E62-54E2-4343-BADC-0752DB90540A.jpeg
 
I agree, but that picture sure looks fake!!
Lol. Sorry. It’s taken from a post on the first page and I have no idea of its authenticity. I just think something should be done to bring about change in a non violent manner and added the picture to show what I meant.
 
Last edited:
Protests aren't the problem. It's when a protest devolves into a riot that's the problem. Protests are designed to bring, or heighten awareness to an issue. Sometimes they work. But riots solve nothing. They're destructive and they don't solve problems they just create them.

And just so we're clear, I'm not anti-police, just anti-the officers who murdered Mr. Floyd. They are the opposite of what the police force should represent, which is to serve and protect its public. There is footage of Mr. Floyd being led to the police vehicle before the incident occurred. He was not resisting. He was quiet and compliant. How this escalated is beyond me. Perhaps he did just trip and the officers misinterpreted that as resistance, but even so that doesn't require the excessive force that was used against him. He was handcuffed with his hands behind his back, so was subdued the moment he was on the ground.

Someone here mentioned that he shouldn't have been engaged in a criminal act. No. He shouldn't. But....so what? How is that even remotely relevant to his murder? The mindset seems to be that if you break the law, then you just better be prepared to deal with whatever you get. No. Not just no, but HELL NO. It's not the job of the police to mete out "justice."

I am absolutely sickened by this incident. Social media right now is blowing up over this. There are various threads and strains of opinions. One is that Mr. Floyd had a record (I don't know if that's true or not) and that he was a drunk and a criminal. Again, how is ANY of that relevant to what happened to him? He deserved what he got because he'd broken the law before? Seriously????

This was an atrocity. This was torture of a defenseless human being (he was handcuffed, remember?) This was cruel and inhumane and I hope (though I'm not holding my breath) that these officers are tried for murder. That they haven't even been arrested is a travesty.

RIP Mr. Floyd. #georgefloyd
 
Often, with dirtbag cops like this, the abuse starts before a suspect (who isn't their favorite color) says anything. The cops keep revving up the abuse until the suspect reacts, then they use the "resisting arrest" ploy.


And you know this how ? From all your years on the street as an officer..?..or are you speaking from the opposing position...?..
 
Protests aren't the problem. It's when a protest devolves into a riot that's the problem. Protests are designed to bring, or heighten awareness to an issue. Sometimes they work. But riots solve nothing. They're destructive and they don't solve problems they just create them.

And just so we're clear, I'm not anti-police, just anti-the officers who murdered Mr. Floyd. They are the opposite of what the police force should represent, which is to serve and protect its public. There is footage of Mr. Floyd being led to the police vehicle before the incident occurred. He was not resisting. He was quiet and compliant. How this escalated is beyond me. Perhaps he did just trip and the officers misinterpreted that as resistance, but even so that doesn't require the excessive force that was used against him. He was handcuffed with his hands behind his back, so was subdued the moment he was on the ground.

Someone here mentioned that he shouldn't have been engaged in a criminal act. No. He shouldn't. But....so what? How is that even remotely relevant to his murder? The mindset seems to be that if you break the law, then you just better be prepared to deal with whatever you get. No. Not just no, but HELL NO. It's not the job of the police to mete out "justice."

I am absolutely sickened by this incident. Social media right now is blowing up over this. There are various threads and strains of opinions. One is that Mr. Floyd had a record (I don't know if that's true or not) and that he was a drunk and a criminal. Again, how is ANY of that relevant to what happened to him? He deserved what he got because he'd broken the law before? Seriously????

This was an atrocity. This was torture of a defenseless human being (he was handcuffed, remember?) This was cruel and inhumane and I hope (though I'm not holding my breath) that these officers are tried for murder. That they haven't even been arrested is a travesty.

RIP Mr. Floyd. #georgefloyd
I agree with some of what you said. I think the powers that be are considering charging the officer who had his knee on his neck with murder. But there is an investigation, the FBI are involved, and until the investigation is done a rush to judgement means nothing.

It really is not our place to judge unless we are on the jury.
 
Yes. This is what I meant.

Protesting is what I meant and it’s apparently not illegal to do either. I still believe people should be outraged. That doesn’t involve setting fires or looting. Nobody should use this as an excuse to break the law with violence and theft.
https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/protesters-rights/

View attachment 107179
I will accept, Keesha, you meant a protest not riot, although at first you did say riot. But in the USA protesters must get a permit. Because, in the USA, the police want to be prepared in case a protest turns into a riot. In cases like this, protests often turn into riots. It was never a protest.

Now you have police in riot gear. Now the police are really appreciated, wanted, and needed by the people of Minneapolis. A good time for them, the police, to get the blue flu IMO. Let’s see how it is in a city without the police during a riot. Shall we?

The dead man was not killed by the police. But he may have been killed by an individual who was a policeman-a big distinction. Having witnessed the riot in Los Angeles so many decades ago from the safety of my home there, my heart bleeds for the people in Minneapolis.

Now the city wants the national guard to intervene. Can’t wait to see the final bill. This occurred because people rushed to judgement, like many people here. Such a shame.
 
I did not say he died from a fall. I said there was new video, new witnesses, and wait for the investigation. However, many people die from falls, just because you haven’t, doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen. Although, I’m glad you didn’t die from a fall. I would hate that, 🥰 talking to you.

Aneeda, the fact that people (mostly elderly or incapacitated) occasionally die from falls is irrelevant in this case. You might as well say, "Maybe he died of TB or AIDS, who knows?" There is clear video footage of the cop cutting off his airway, all the while he was pleading, "I can't breathe."
 
There is clear video footage of the cop cutting off his airway, all the while he was pleading, "I can't breathe."
That's the part I just can't comprehend. The complete and utter lack of humanity and empathy just makes my blood run cold. The Officer Chauvin wasn't even LOOKING at Mr. Floyd, wasn't checking on him, not even bothering to OBSERVE the impact his action was having. Just killing time, apparently unconcerned, looking at ease, his demeanor and every action indicating that Mr. Floyd wasn't even worth his time and attention.

And no, I don't know any of that to be the actual case. But that's my clear interpretation from what I'm looking at. And it's sickening.
 
Last edited:
I'm sorry to say that riots have clearly proven that they work in moving the ball forward in ways that peaceful protests haven't. Don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating riots. Far from it. But I recognize that they get the public's attention and force change, especially when it comes to racial issues and police brutality.

Please don't kill this messenger. As I said, I'm not advocating for riots. Ever.
 
Aneeda, the fact that people (mostly elderly or incapacitated) occasionally die from falls is irrelevant in this case. You might as well say, "Maybe he died of TB or AIDS, who knows?" There is clear video footage of the cop cutting off his airway, all the while he was pleading, "I can't breathe."
Yes, I agree to a certain extent, I might as well have said he died of TB except I don’t know if he had TB and I do know he fell.

But I refuse to judge and I want to wait and see what becomes of the investigation. Plus it bothers me that people keep saying ”the police did it”. They didn‘t. An individual did it. He’s being charged.

The rush to judgement caused the riot. This happens again and again in this country and increases the hate towards and between the supposed minorities and whites. I say supposed minorities since I don’t know the racial makeup of the area. In some places white folks are the minority.

The video I saw, where he falls, not caused by anyone btw, also shows he might have hit his head. I refuse to make an early judgement before the investigation is completed. Also an eye witness said only three people called out for the police officer to stop. Anyone there could have called 911 and gotten a supervisor to come and different police. No one did.

In point of fact, no one there helped-civilian or otherwise. I guess they were too busy recording what was going on.
 
In point of fact, no one there helped-civilian or otherwise. I guess they were too busy recording what was going on.
People were heard & seen pointing out to the officers that he wasn't moving and needed assistance. What more could they do against 4 armed cops who were clearly demonstrating a wanton disregard for reasonable force limitations?
 
Yes, I agree to a certain extent, I might as well have said he died of TB except I don’t know if he had TB and I do know he fell.

But I refuse to judge and I want to wait and see what becomes of the investigation. Plus it bothers me that people keep saying ”the police did it”. They didn‘t. An individual did it. He’s being charged.

The rush to judgement caused the riot. This happens again and again in this country and increases the hate towards and between the supposed minorities and whites. I say supposed minorities since I don’t know the racial makeup of the area. In some places white folks are the minority.

The video I saw, where he falls, not caused by anyone btw, also shows he might have hit his head. I refuse to make an early judgement before the investigation is completed. Also an eye witness said only three people called out for the police officer to stop. Anyone there could have called 911 and gotten a supervisor to come and different police. No one did.

In point of fact, no one there helped-civilian or otherwise. I guess they were too busy recording what was going on.
Denial is not just a river in Egypt.
 
Denial is not just a river in Egypt.
I am not in denial. I am just waiting for the investigation. I am not going to agree with most everyone just to make myself acceptable to members of this forum or anyone else. My opinion is my opinion-if you don’t like it put me on ignore.
 

Status
Not open for further replies.

Back
Top