What is a crap job ?

Knight

Knight

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I agreed with trade in another thread that a lot of people were busting their butts at crap jobs. Then I had time to think about that. I don't really know what a crap job is. I've worked at jobs that were low pay & no benefits and found part time to pay for the needs of my family to supplement those jobs. I never thought at the time as those being crap jobs. Just jobs to pay for needs until something better came along.




so I ask what is a crap job?
 

I didn't enjoy my three years of emptying pig swill very much, but no job is a crap job if it pays the rent.
 

Let's see. For compensation the minimum for a non crap job would pay at least $15 an hour for a guaranteed 40 hours a week, so let's say $30,000 a year plus a reasonable amount of paid sick leave, vacation and holidays. A group health plan with coverage at least as good as Medicare should be available for the employee and their immediate family with the employee being required to pay no more than 25% of the cost, the rest to be borne by the employer. Time a half for overtime beyond 40 hours. A defined benefit pension plan that will pay at least 1% of the employees final earnings per year worked with retirement available at 30 years. Employees with less than 30 years should be eligible for a pension at age 62 based on the number of years worked. This is the basic bare bones compensation package for what I would consider a non crap job. And we're not even getting into working conditions or adjustments for higher cost of living locations. .
 
For me a crap job would be a repetitive job that could/should be done by a machine, a job where I was dirty and smelly at the end of the day or a job where I went home every night with one or more parts of my body sore and aching.

Stay in school and manage your job/career like a small business to help you get where you want to be!!!
 
Aunt Bea said:
For me a crap job would be a repetitive job that could/should be done by a machine, a job where I was dirty and smelly at the end of the day or a job where I went home every night with one or more parts of my body sore and aching.

Stay in school and manage your job/career like a small business to help you get where you want to be!!!
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Damn, I guess I worked almost sixty years of crap jobs by that definition. Funny, I never looked at most of them that way.

I went home smelly tired and sore, but also a feeling of accomplishment, pride in a job well done, happy and satisfied clients. Pride in knowing I never had to screw anyone or commit an unethical or immoral act to accomplish my job. (There is a special Hell for Human Resource folks!)

I retired well,granted I am never gonna edge out the Donald, but we have enough,both fat dumb and happy with a paid for roof over our heads.

I occasionally have to do a real crap job,and that is to spread manure. Go one way in the field with the wind in your face ain't to bad, round that corner and head back, Oh Lord, hope that wind isn't to strong and make sure the hood is up on your hoodie!
 
Remember Burt in Mary Poppins?

Chim chiminey
Chim chiminey
Chim chim cher-ee!
A sweep is as lucky
As lucky can be
Chim chiminey
Chim chiminey
Chim chim cher-oo!
Good luck will rub off when
I shakes 'ands with you
Or blow me a kiss
And that's lucky too


Now as the ladder of life
'As been strung
You may think a sweep's
On the bottommost rung
Though I spends me time
In the ashes and smoke
In this 'ole wide world
There's no 'appier bloke
 
Some jobs are just a job and paycheck. There is no career potential. It is what it is. Nothing wrong with an honest day's work. Too many get caught up in the What do you do? game. I notice many who are not working in their chosen/self designated career field use 'crappy job' when talking about their work. Kids in particular need to learn the difference between a job and career. Each one is different but they both equal a paycheck. People should realize what they are applying for or accepting. Do the job correctly, honestly and work hard then worry those pesky 'career' issues.
 
I can't define a crap job by pay. There are many jobs you can't pay me enough to do.
I had some real crappy days growing up on the farm, but I usually had a sense of accomplishment at the end of the day, and slept REALLY well.
Inversely; I've had co-workers that thought menial work was beneath them. I always grinned thinking 'I'm being paid $XX to do filing, clean up, drive to get something needed from a vendor, etc.'
 
Robusta said:
Damn, I guess I worked almost sixty years of crap jobs by that definition. Funny, I never looked at most of them that way.

I went home smelly tired and sore, but also a feeling of accomplishment, pride in a job well done, happy and satisfied clients. Pride in knowing I never had to screw anyone or commit an unethical or immoral act to accomplish my job. (There is a special Hell for Human Resource folks!)

I retired well,granted I am never gonna edge out the Donald, but we have enough,both fat dumb and happy with a paid for roof over our heads.

I occasionally have to do a real crap job,and that is to spread manure. Go one way in the field with the wind in your face ain't to bad, round that corner and head back, Oh Lord, hope that wind isn't to strong and make sure the hood is up on your hoodie!
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We each have our own ideas about what is right for us and my description is right for me.

It sounds like your choices worked as well for you as my choices worked for me, that's really all that matters.
 
To me, a crap job is one that won't make your ends meet. IMHO, a job might not be your ideal job, or even something you like, but if it is keeping food on your table and a roof over your head while you look for something better, and not damaging your health, it's not a crap job.
 
I taught my children to hold their heads high no matter how menial the work they were doing, as long as it was honest work. It's not a matter of the pay scale. I believe that even menial work deserves remuneration that allows the worker to live in modest comfort, to provide for themselves and family, and to afford to contribute to society via the taxation system. No-one who is performing honest and necessary work should be made to feel like a social moocher.
 
Crap job? Obviously cleaning other people's crap. Also working on a garbage truck, being a medical examiner (some of the grossness one would have to see and work with), waitressing, being a cook (I hate doing it at home, damn sure wouldn't want to have to do it all day, even for pay).
 
In the early days of computers, I had a temp job typing information into the computer system of a large company. Day after day, I'd type and type and type and then I'd come in the next morning and they'd sheepishly tell me that it all got erased the night before or FUBAR'd. A three day job turned into three months. Did I care? Nope. It was three months of pay, as far as I was concerned. To some people that would have been a crap job. To me, it was a paycheck.
 
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