Where does God live?

I remember that parental cuff of love while growing up.
"If I want to hear you, I will ask you" Worked hard all week on the farm.
Learn to handle large field tractors by age of 10, field plowing age 13.
Go to town Sat. night and get a bottle of Pepsi. Maybe a Dairy Queen.
Late afternoon Cartoons and Zorro. Saturday Lone Ranger, that stuff.
Captain Kangaroo - Mr. Green Jeans born in lil town, Sandwich il. ... :coffee: ...
No child labor laws on a farm then. Driving grain binder following
combine age of 15. Planting Tomatoes by hand with the Tomato planter mounted
To Field Tractor. Drinking tomatoes to quench thirst in the fall. So lucky to get
all those 1000's of hours of experience with machinery. & fixing it too.
 

Kilroy is a Meme that basically looks over a wall a peeking. A joke.
Elon is an engineer who can't make up his mind. A quasi multi-interest.
Bill wants stuff. Kim has a large rear, Hugh Grant says I is married to oo7, thus a wife. ... :LOL: .. 🤣 ...
 

gruntlabor said:
Those examples have nothing to do with faith. They're about what we are about, what drives us. Elon is about science, Bill is about money, Kim is about beauty, Kilroy is about the military, Hugh is about sex...
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Theists often make comparisons of their faith with beliefs and perceptions of others, which they then pass off as faith when they aren't the same at all. Once they establish an equivalence in their own minds, they can justify their faith as valid as somebody who believes the sun will rise tomorrow.
 
Warrigal said:
Have to disagree here. Mathematics begins with counting and measurement. These are the very real foundations for more complex mathematical operations. Newton's equations may seem theoretical but they have very real applications in engineering.
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:) I am not making myself understood. Of course math is essential to us. Math is everything and everything is math.
I meant that math is not matter, not a real touchable tangible substance. It is an abstract idea, a discipline.
When you begin to count horses, be careful not to count the idea of a horse.
 
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"My Son U are mighty unlucky, I have created, return to you golf ballz."
"We shall bless and keep on forever. I Name them, Urbalz and shall go with better luck from you."
"Now I command thee, you leave that lil ho, be!"
 
papa tiger said:
I remember that parental cuff of love while growing up.
"If I want to hear you, I will ask you" Worked hard all week on the farm.
Learn to handle large field tractors by age of 10, field plowing age 13.
Go to town Sat. night and get a bottle of Pepsi. Maybe a Dairy Queen.
Late afternoon Cartoons and Zorro. Saturday Lone Ranger, that stuff.
Captain Kangaroo - Mr. Green Jeans born in lil town, Sandwich il. ... :coffee: ...
No child labor laws on a farm then. Driving grain binder following
combine age of 15. Planting Tomatoes by hand with the Tomato planter mounted
To Field Tractor. Drinking tomatoes to quench thirst in the fall. So lucky to get
all those 1000's of hours of experience with machinery. & fixing it too.
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all sounds like good healthy fun!
 
JustDave said:
Faith is fickle. The way I look at it, it can be argued that we all have faith in something, the operative word being "argued," as left open for discussion. For all the virtue we assign to faith, the fact is that faith does not require confirmation, making it a weak argument for absolute truth.
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For me, there is a distinct difference between having a so-called faith in the scientific process, and having blind faith in a God. One is demonstrable, one is not. There is a jumping off point in science when we assign meaning to the results of an experiment, because they could be incorrect, or not fully understood. As we learn more, our reasoning becomes more firm.

Blind faith is a belief in something that isn't quantifiable, measurable, or demonstrable. I accept people have blind faith, and it can even be important to them, but I can't accept it's near the level a faith in the scientific process rises to.
 
good point VJB but some are suggesting yea many that all our scientific faith still comes from an unseen God - he's just waiting for us to catch up perhaps?
 
Joey said:
good point VJB but some are suggesting yea many that all our scientific faith still comes from an unseen God - he's just waiting for us to catch up perhaps?
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See, I can see that argument. BUT - I don't accept blind faith. I don't accept there's a God at all. Since Blind faith makes no sense to me, anything that branches from that logic is foundation less.

If God is going to come down and convince me, I wish he's hurry up, with each passing day I'm running out of time!
 
VaughanJB said:
For me, there is a distinct difference between having a so-called faith in the scientific process, and having blind faith in a God. One is demonstrable, one is not. There is a jumping off point in science when we assign meaning to the results of an experiment, because they could be incorrect, or not fully understood. As we learn more, our reasoning becomes more firm.

Blind faith is a belief in something that isn't quantifiable, measurable, or demonstrable. I accept people have blind faith, and it can even be important to them, but I can't accept it's near the level a faith in the scientific process rises to.
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Science wanted to blow up the moon. Why? Because it thought it could. Science deliberately infected South Americans with (I believe it was) syphilis. Science gave us the lobotomy. Science gave us an acne medication with a possible side effect of death. Science today is as immoral and ruthless as politics. Science will be the death of us all.
Science without controls, morals or ethics is cold, inhumane.
 
VaughanJB said:
See, I can see that argument. BUT - I don't accept blind faith. I don't accept there's a God at all. Since Blind faith makes no sense to me, anything that branches from that logic is foundation less.

If God is going to come down and convince me, I wish he's hurry up, with each passing day I'm running out of time!
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I don't think you can put limits on God like that - he just patiently awaits you and then can give you divine happiness? be happy!
 
VaughanJB said:
See, I can see that argument. BUT - I don't accept blind faith. I don't accept there's a God at all. Since Blind faith makes no sense to me, anything that branches from that logic is foundation less.

If God is going to come down and convince me, I wish he's hurry up, with each passing day I'm running out of time!
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I think he is waiting for you to convince him!!
 
I just love this explanation of Gods patience:

Gods patience NOT ours?

I do like this explanation - there are so many of us want quick slick answers and they won't be given ; can't be given ' shouldn't be given?

You have all seen the buttons some Christians wear, haven’t you? It’s an acrostic — PBPGINFWMY — “Please Be Patient God Is Not Finished With Me Yet.” just for Gary O who I know is still learning patience! finished yet Gary?
 
If God is going to come down and convince me, I wish he's hurry up, with each passing day I'm running out of time!

OMG this explains it all so you are setting the pace heh - your life is timeless you cannot run out of it - cool mon! - and heh bro - we all love you as you slowly grow - you cannot run out of time - you are timeless!
 
gruntlabor said:
Science wanted to blow up the moon. Why? Because it thought it could. Science deliberately infected South Americans with (I believe it was) syphilis. Science gave us the lobotomy. Science gave us an acne medication with a possible side effect of death. Science today is as immoral and ruthless as politics. Science will be the death of us all.
Science without controls, morals or ethics is cold, inhumane.
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oh very neat one gl - full marks xxxx
 
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