Where does God live?

bobcat said:
Well after 600 posts we have come full circle to the general answer that God lives in your heart but nothing further. Is this speaking of the heart muscle, in your blood, in the nerves, in the brain, or where? One could say that it's like a smell in a kitchen, it's everywhere as an odor.

However, odors are gasses, and they have mass. Even a fart weighs 10 - 400mL (Personally I wouldn't trust the ones on the upper end of that scale, just sayin', and how in the world did anyone get that job of weighing those things, but the good news is that, yes, you do lose weight with each rump roar - you're welcome).

Sorry, where was I goin' with that. Oh yes ...... if God lives in part of your body, does he have mass. As far as we know, everything in the universe is either matter or energy, and matter can be converted to energy (If you light a fart, you have combustion - don't ask me how I know).

So, to the question, does God living in your heart / mind have mass, or is it/he energy. If he is energy, then is there more energy in the brain of a believer than non-believer. If God is neither matter nor energy, then how is it/he detected by your senses?
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interesting side comment there: - as a teenager I became more actively involved in church life in various ways and was often invited around to a small group meeting of church goers at someones home. I was often surprised and impressed at the tidyness and polished smell of their homes as opposed to my own. Cleanliness is where the heart lies perhaps??

I was christened or baptized in a smallish cathedral church that my parents had been married in and which eventually finished up as dorms for university students!! - dabbled with churches on and off ever since until I hit the load stone - nothing less than "The Church of Christ" which is quite clearly spelt out in a conversation between the big yun himself and the disciple Peter who thought he was goin to have an eminent position in the church historic annals. Well he did in a way - got crucified upside down apparently??
 

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original question - where does god live?? - well could be a far distant planet on a far distant galaxy who was just experimenting with designer alternative spirits from his/her own on an empty planet in another galaxy - the permutations are in their millions eh? - modern concept of "grow a tribe"?
 
bobcat said:
Hard to know what Jesus may have meant, but given the context where he was asked, "How can a man enter again into his mother's womb and be born again", then Jesus replied that he must be born of the water and the spirit. It would seem to mean water birth (As when a woman's water breaks), and a spirit birth.

I didn't take it as anything about "special water", but it is a vague answer, so who knows.
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Jesus mentions 'living water' does he not?
John 7:38
  • "Whoever believes in me, as Scripture has said, rivers of living water will flow from within them".

    • Jesus says that rivers of living water will flow from the heart of anyone who believes in him.
 

Pepper said:
Jesus mentions 'living water' does he not?
John 7:38
  • "Whoever believes in me, as Scripture has said, rivers of living water will flow from within them".

    • Jesus says that rivers of living water will flow from the heart of anyone who believes in him.
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A different passage, but it may hold the same message.
So much is left to interpretation.
 
Joey said:
and to continue - has anyone come across the term THE DESTIN LOG - Is the Bible historically accurate?

The Destin Log
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The person who wrote that has obviously cherry picked a couple things and has built a conclusion based on his interpreted findings. That's like saying there was an actual city of Canaan, so therefore everything that is said about it in the Bible must be true.

The Bible does contain some history and events, but it also contains many things that just don't stand up to scrutiny. IMO, one shouldn't just throw it out, or accept it as fact. It was written by many different authors (Some unknown) that we will never meet or question, so who knows how much is simply oral stories handed down with no basis in fact.
 
Joey said:
original question - where does god live?? - well could be a far distant planet on a far distant galaxy who was just experimenting with designer alternative spirits from his/her own on an empty planet in another galaxy - the permutations are in their millions eh? - modern concept of "grow a tribe"?
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Could be many things I suppose, but what would be the purpose? Curiosity perhaps?
 
Capt Lightning said:
Considering the great age of the universe, possibly much older that the estimate of 18.8 Billion years, There would be adequate time for this 'god' to iron out the flaws and create a pretty decent template for human life on Earth. Why go through the evolutionary process? In fact, why even bother with life at all?
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As powerful and all knowing as god is described, it's difficult to imagine that after 18 billion years this is the best he could do. I suspect that if god exists, and if he created everything, then we were likely an early beta attempt that he later abandoned and started over to do a better job with some of the lessons he learned while watching us start to kill each other.
 
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Pepper said:
Loneliness. Needing to connect. It has needs, being all solitary and alone for so so long........
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Possible I guess, but why would that entity create life in a distant galaxy if it was lonely? It would seem to make more sense right where you are.
 
bobcat said:
Possible I guess, but why would that entity create life in a distant galaxy if it was lonely? It would seem to make more sense right where you are.
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Who said it was distant? Who says distance has value to this being, who is everywhere? Everywhere but still Alone.
 
Rich said:
But would he have been alone? What about the holy trinity, would the other 2 not have been along with him?
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Alone as one and only one. Alone. Trinity came later, if you insist there is one. 3 in 1 is still One. Alone.

If you make up two people to live in your head are you still alone? Or are you then three? Alone is the keyword here. Alone.
 
bobcat said:
The Bible does contain some history and events, but it also contains many things that just don't stand up to scrutiny. IMO, one shouldn't just throw it out, or accept it as fact. It was written by many different authors (Some unknown) that we will never meet or question, so who knows how much is simply oral stories handed down with no basis in fact.
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Anyone who has ever participated in a game of "telephone" will understand the inherent weakness of verbal communication, information that's handed down. This method seems to fail within minutes, hard to imagine how much a story gets twisted over 2 thousand years.
 
Rich said:
As powerful and all knowing as god is described it's difficult to imagine that after 18 billion years this is the best he could do. I suspect that if god exists, and if he created everything, then we were likely an early beta attempt that he later abandoned and started over to do a better job with some of the lessons he learned while watching us start to kill each other.
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Humans are the very best, even with our penchant for death.
 
Rich said:
As powerful and all knowing as god is described it's difficult to imagine that after 18 billion years this is the best he could do. I suspect that if god exists, and if he created everything, then we were likely an early beta attempt that he later abandoned and started over to do a better job with some of the lessons he learned while watching us start to kill each other.
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It also doesn't make sense to create organisms that have to kill and eat each other to survive. Why not make all organisms like plants that can get their energy from the sun and nutrients from the soil. I suppose one could say that God intended everyone to be vegetarians, but even the tiniest animals eat each other, so that conclusion seems to have holes.
 
Pepper said:
Alone as one and only one. Alone. Trinity came later, if you insist there is one. 3 in 1 is still One. Alone.

If you make up two people to live in your head are you still alone? Or are you then three? Alone is the keyword here. Alone.
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Good questions, is three in one the same as one? However, this may be the only time in history that people were told, hey, this Jesus guy is hearing voices, and they actually went with it.
 
Pepper said:
Who said it was distant? Who says distance has value to this being, who is everywhere? Everywhere but still Alone.
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Oh sorry, my comment there was in response to Joey's post: "where does god live?? - well could be a far distant planet on a far distant galaxy who was just experimenting with designer alternative spirits from his/her own on an empty planet in another galaxy
 
As a side question, and I apologize for digressing again but if god is all powerful why is he having such a problem dispatching the devil. Wouldn't he be able to uhhh, smite him?
 
bobcat said:
Oh sorry, my comment there was in response to Joey's post: "where does god live?? - well could be a far distant planet on a far distant galaxy who was just experimenting with designer alternative spirits from his/her own on an empty planet in another galaxy
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Bobcat, didn't we hear this in a move from the 70s... "A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away...."
 
bobcat said:
It also doesn't make sense to create organisms that have to kill and eat each other to survive. Why not make all organisms like plants that can get their energy from the sun and nutrients from the soil. I suppose one could say that God intended everyone to be vegetarians, but even the tiniest animals eat each other, so that conclusion seems to have holes.
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Excellent point, our whole existence pretty much depends on this. ⬆️
 
Rich said:
As a side question, and I apologize for digressing again but if god is all powerful why is he having such a problem dispatching the devil. Wouldn't he be able to uhhh, smite him?
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Interesting question. Although, if God created him, one could understand the cognitive dissonance. However, according to the Bible, God doesn't have any problem killing off people, so maybe that explanation is a bit weak as well.
 
bobcat said:
Interesting question. Although, if God created him, one could understand the cognitive dissonance. However, according to the Bible, God doesn't have any problem killing off people, so maybe that explanation is a bit weak as well.
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As in most thing related to god. It's why so often we hear "we don't always understand why god does things but we have faith that it's for the best." Whenever pressed hard for details most of the faithful resort to this sort of response. I suppose that's the nature of faith.
 

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