Where does God live?

Rich said:
Well, it was published in a book titled "100 Great Science Fiction Short Short Stories." It's only 3 pages long in the book.I'm open to suggestions as to what else I could call it. Perhaps I should have called it a short short story? :unsure::)

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Hey... Not fair!!! You haven't revealed the title of this monumental short story. :unsure:
 

bobcat said:
I get your take on the story, except it wasn't the point of the story. Whether true or an allegory, the story was about God proving something to Satan, and that was that no matter what blessings Job had in life, he was still a good and faithful servant. It wasn't to convey to Job that he must undergo pain and suffering to appreciate the things God had given him.

As for paradise (Assuming it could exist), I think there is a distinction between lasting happiness and appreciation of happiness. It begs the question, can you have happiness without overcoming adversity. Which may be a question we could never know the answer to, since it has never happened in the course of civilization, or perhaps more to the point, how could you recognize happiness if you never had anything to compare it to. That being said, I can appreciate life without having to die first, so who knows.

I suppose to properly address the point here, one would have to first be able to agree on what paradise would be to humans, and then agree on what happiness might mean. To me, happiness doesn't just exist or not, it is in degrees, and perhaps paradise works the same way. Until we can put an end to wanting, we would only live in a partial paradise.
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Bobcat, you are a very thought-full man. I like how your mind works. (y)
 
gruntlabor said:
I don't understand your question, Pepper
Do you mean, who was the intelligence/entity/identity living inside the head of Jesus?
Before baptism, Jesus was a carpenter. At His baptism, He was enlightened by the Holy Spirit and knew Himself as Michael.
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I thought @Pepper was asking who the Subjective Christ was as opposed to the Bald Headed Christ, or even Jesus H Christ.
 

I remember a song that asked the question "What if God were one of us?", "Just a slob like one of us?" "Tryin' to make his way home?" A reasonable question. The Bible says our bodies are the temple of the Holy Spirit. If we recognize this Spirit we won't be so depressed?
 
There's a city with a fierce storm and the flood waters threaten to rise.
A devout man goes outside and prays, "Dear Lord, please save me from this flood!"

A bus rolls up to the man and says, "Get in! I'm taking you to safety!"
The man says, "No. God will provide for me." And the bus driver leaves.

The flood waters start rising and the streets are flooded. No traffic can make it through.
The devout man sticks his head out of a second story window, and prays, "Dear Lord, please save me from this flood!"

Just then, a man in a small motorboat pulls up in front of the window and says, "Get in! I'm taking you to safety!"
The man says, "No. God will provide for me." The boat quickly looks for others to help.

The flood waters keep rising, the waters reach two stories in depth.
The devout man gets up on his roof and prays, "Dear Lord, please save me from this flood!"

A helicopter hovers over the man's house. The pilot says, "Get in! I'm taking you to safety!"
The man says, "No. God will provide for me." And the helicopter then flies off to help others.

The flood continues to rise. The man is swept from his roof and dies.
He comes to, and sees that he is now sitting in front of God, the Father.

"Lord," the devout man says, "Why didn't you save me?"

"My son, I made masks available. Social distancing is basically free. I gave medical knowledge through respected medical doctors. I guided the scientists who created a vaccine for it in record time.

You have to make decisions to accept help offered."

"Lord, with all due respect, what the hell are you talking about? I died in a flood!"

"My sweet inner City believer, the lesson here is clear," sayeth the Lord, "I can't always keep all of you dumb ----- straight?"

What about asking for Michael's answer?
"Thats a modern name, men added it later. I yell, hey you unlucky lil s---!"
( 'U can always trust a 'father's answer too!' )
 
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human thought and reasoning through the ages demands that we all have to have a designated "living abode" whether a palace or tree house - when we ask "where does God live?" we are restricting or confining him to human restrictions of survival and life - perhaps he needs neither?
 
gruntlabor said:
I don't understand your question, Pepper
Do you mean, who was the intelligence/entity/identity living inside the head of Jesus?
Before baptism, Jesus was a carpenter. At His baptism, He was enlightened by the Holy Spirit and knew Himself as Michael.
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This theology seems to have some problems. If Jesus was just a carpenter, and didn't yet have the mind of the Holy Spirit, you can be sure that growing up as a normal child, being a typical teenager, and as an adult hitting his thumb with a hammer, he would have sinned. If he did, then he would have to pay for his own sins, and the whole sacrificial lamb idea becomes a boat with holes.

Next, if Mary gave birth to a male, then the "Y" chromosome had to come from a male, as the mother doesn't have it. However, if miraculously God did supply the sperm to fertilize the egg, then the child is now half human and half God, not all God. Can you imagine the identity crisis going on.

One has to also remember that these accounts from unconfirmed authors were written at least 40 years after Jesus died. That's a lot to consider. How would they know if Mary was a virgin? I guess it all comes down to believing what you choose to believe, since there can be no way to confirm it. Anything in life could be explained by a miracle. Should we believe it? I think if it makes you happy and is comforting, and it's not hurting anyone else, then sure, why not?
 
Joey said:
human thought and reasoning through the ages demands that we all have to have a designated "living abode" whether a palace or tree house - when we ask "where does God live?" we are restricting or confining him to human restrictions of survival and life - perhaps he needs neither?
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Perhaps it comes down to figuring out what God is. If God has some sort of mass, then God has to exist in a location or locations. If God is energy and has no mass, then it could theoretically be everywhere, but if it is energy, then does it have a mind and emotions? That seems to suggest neural connections.
 
perhaps those old testament authors/prophets were trying to describe a God with no human form? the descriptions of what the high priest experienced in the desert high temple behind closed canvas was fascinating?
 
bobcat said:
This theology seems to have some problems. If Jesus was just a carpenter, and didn't yet have the mind of the Holy Spirit, you can be sure that growing up as a normal child, being a typical teenager, and as an adult hitting his thumb with a hammer, he would have sinned. If he did, then he would have to pay for his own sins, and the whole sacrificial lamb idea becomes a boat with holes.

Next, if Mary gave birth to a male, then the "Y" chromosome had to come from a male, as the mother doesn't have it. However, if miraculously God did supply the sperm to fertilize the egg, then the child is now half human and half God, not all God. Can you imagine the identity crisis going on.

One has to also remember that these accounts from unconfirmed authors were written at least 40 years after Jesus died. That's a lot to consider. How would they know if Mary was a virgin? I guess it all comes down to believing what you choose to believe, since there can be no way to confirm it. Anything in life could be explained by a miracle. Should we believe it? I think if it makes you happy and is comforting, and it's not hurting anyone else, then sure, why not?
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No, He could have been a deeply religious man, told of and brought up fully aware of His destiny.
Jesus may have been a son of man, but even if born of an 'immaculate conception', he was a man. We all sin. I don't understand your 'holes in the sacrificial lamb idea'.
As to the miracles, my seventh-grade science teacher told my class at the outset, 'Before you get upset and tell your parents, I do not say that God did not create the world and all of us, I am telling you how He did it.'
Today's miracles may be understood tomorrow.
As to the blind belief in God and His miracles being harmless, I disagree with you. I think Christian faith can be merely a coward's terror of death and, as a bonus, providing that kind of believer with an excuse to avoid his duty as a caring citizen of the world.
 
bobcat said:
Perhaps it comes down to figuring out what God is. If God has some sort of mass, then God has to exist in a location or locations. If God is energy and has no mass, then it could theoretically be everywhere, but if it is energy, then does it have a mind and emotions? That seems to suggest neural connections.
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God doesn't 'have to' do anything, boss.
 
gruntlabor said:
No, He could have been a deeply religious man, told of and brought up fully aware of His destiny.
Jesus may have been a son of man, but even if born of an 'immaculate conception', he was a man. We all sin. I don't understand your 'holes in the sacrificial lamb idea'.
As to the miracles, my seventh-grade science teacher told my class at the outset, 'Before you get upset and tell your parents, I do not say that God did not create the world and all of us, I am telling you how He did it.'
Today's miracles may be understood tomorrow.
As to the blind belief in God and His miracles being harmless, I disagree with you. I think Christian faith can be merely a coward's terror of death and, as a bonus, providing that kind of believer with an excuse to avoid his duty as a caring citizen of the world.
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Sorry, I thought you believed Jesus died for your sins. If he had sins of his own to pay for, then that seems problematic. If you don't believe that, then I'm not sure what the purpose was.

As for your second paragraph, I have no idea what you were getting at, so I can't really comment.
 
Rich said:
It's back in my first mention of it, the title is "Trace" written by Jerome Bixby.
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Thanks. I'll try to find it and take a look.
bobcat said:
Mass occupies space and dimension, therefore it has a location. At least that's the reality I live in.
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Scientists are still exploring the nature of mass as smaller and smaller sub atomic particles are being discovered. The certainties of last century are being challenged.

I'm less engaged in the question "Where does God live?" than in the question the young man asked of Jesus, namely "Who is my neighbour?" The answer is probably the most important teaching of the New Testament.
 
bobcat said:
Sorry, I thought you believed Jesus died for your sins. If he had sins of his own to pay for, then that seems problematic. If you don't believe that, then I'm not sure what the purpose was.

As for your second paragraph, I have no idea what you were getting at, so I can't really comment.
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Ah, I see what you mean now, although I don't see it as problematic.
 
bobcat said:
Mass occupies space and dimension, therefore it has a location. At least that's the reality In live in.
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Quantum mechanics is teaching us new realities.
That subatomic particles when tangled can travel instantaneously to the end of the universe, that Shrodinger's cat in its closed box can be both dead and alive, waves and particles can be the same thing, and more.
 
gruntlabor said:
Quantum mechanics is teaching us new realities.
That subatomic particles when tangled can travel instantaneously to the end of the universe, that Shrodinger's cat in its closed box can be both dead and alive, waves and particles can be the same thing, and more.
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Sorry, but entangled particles don't travel instantaneously to the end of the universe. When separated, the information (spin) is what travels, not the particles.
 
It's fairly obvious somewhere around 200,000 people are murdered each year over religion and material land greed.
This has been going on since forever. It's basically a Bridge over Troubled water and the bridge is falling. It's 2 faced
promises with bad luck happening to ya on the way back home.

I thank the Lord every day for letting me do what I want and what I have to do. The rest is sort of pure luck and careful planning.
The weather plans to send Tornados near by this upcoming season. I hope I get plenty of warnings.

Its sort of obvious many are homeless.
A homeless person needs to understand
help if it is offered without taking advantage
of others. Thats a Prayer!
 
Some folks seem to try and validate God's existence or non-existence as the case may be, with physics, other scientific limitations and human philosophy and human logic. Nice dance, but don't think it works quite that way. God is omnipotent. Praise Him. Amen

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bobcat said:
Sorry, but entangled particles don't travel instantaneously to the end of the universe. When separated, the information (spin) is what travels, not the particles.
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In that case, how do you suggest that the data needed by the particles in order for them to become entangled is received?
And then remember that in quantum mechanics the wave, the particle, and energy are the same thing at the same time!
The particle has not moved and yet it has moved. It seems impossible.
 

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